MB CIVIL SUIT UPDATE #10 K’s Request to Adjourn (delay) DENIED 11/01/22

[eggbutt]

Imagine what they are paying now!!!

[Davignport]

Is there any way that we can watch the proceedings tomorrow?

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@Davignport

Is there any way that we can watch the proceedings tomorrow?

Answered upthread. If it is zoom only it will be private. If it is online, as previous hearings have been it will be online - link above. Select Morris County and Judge Sceusi. No one knows yet if it will be available to outsiders.

[McGurk]

Yes. The suit against the police was for a Civil Rights violation. To prevail in that kind of action, first, you must a member of a protected class as outlined in the Civil Rights Act and subsequent amendments. MB is not a member of a protected class. Second, you have to overcome qualified immunity, which protects law enforcement officers from individual liability unless the official violated a clearly established constitutional right. You do not have a constitutional right to competent police investigation.

I still don’t understand why the suit was brought, but I suspect it was a tactic having to do with discovery for either the civil or criminal trial.

IANAL, don’t play on on TV and didn’t stay a Holiday Inn Express last night. The real lawyers can probably explain it better/more thoroughly.

Edited for grammar and word choice.

[BlueDrifter]

“upstream” in this thread is a 30-40 min search – unless there is an easy way to search the contents of a topic? I tried and kept getting hits on other threads. And I now know there is a bookmarking option for future reference.

[Maria]

@MorganSercu

Bullies” (I have other words in mind) do not stop when people sweep their behavior under a rug. They become emboldened.

This ^

[eggbutt]

True. It is easy to forget when so many skim the thread several times a day.

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[MHM]

@BlueDrifter

“upstream” in this thread is a 30-40 min search – unless there is an easy way to search the contents of a topic? I tried and kept getting hits on other threads. And I now know there is a bookmarking option for future reference.

Here’s an idea.

Maybe the threads on this subject should have an unofficial cut off around 5000 posts before they get too unwieldy.

Maybe somebody efficient would like to start a new thread with a link for the proceedings tomorrow?

[yaya]

@DownYonder

@yaya

If JK is only licensed as an attorney in New York, can attorney-client privilege even be claimed if he was giving legal advice to his daughter in New Jersey? Wouldn’t it be considered practicing law without a license since it occurred in a state in which he was not licensed?

Trying to catch up - did any of the legal eagles answer this?

No. Not that I have seen.

[yaya]

@DownYonder

@ekat

I do agree with @Knights_Mom though. Yes, there’s basic respect for the law. And I can tell you exactly how half a dozen judges I know would rule, which would not be favorable to the K’s. But, what this judge will do will I think be interesting to see, since we haven’t really had this exposure yet.

And, maybe Nagel, or O’Connor or whoever is arguing from that firm is far more skilled in oral arguments than writing briefs. That’s the other component too. We haven’t heard what they are all going to say yet.

Isn’t this the same judge that threw out MB’s lawsuit against the Morris Township Police Department?

Yes it is. It was dismissed without prejudice.

Interestingly, the Police Department side made some motion that it should have been with prejudice (so it couldn’t be brought up again), but there was not a decision to that listed on the ecourts site.

[trubandloki]

@MHM

@BlueDrifter

“upstream” in this thread is a 30-40 min search – unless there is an easy way to search the contents of a topic? I tried and kept getting hits on other threads. And I now know there is a bookmarking option for future reference.

Here’s an idea.

Maybe the threads on this subject should have an unofficial cut off around 5000 posts before they get too unwieldy.

Maybe somebody efficient would like to start a new thread with a link for the proceedings tomorrow?

The thing they are looking for is not more than 5000 posts away.

So that would not help any here.

It works out best with @ekat starting threads because they so nicely set the original post up with all the updates.

I believe the magical number for threads not working properly is 10,000 posts and we are not even close to that yet.

Edit to add - if someone posts the link for the court’s page, by tomorrow it will be a scroll up anyway and people will need it again. So, it makes far more sense to just wait until tomorrow, see if the hearing is public and then post the link if it is.

[ekat]

@trubandloki

The thing they are looking for is not more than 5000 posts away.

So that would not help any here.

It works out best with @ekat starting threads because they so nicely set the original post up with all the updates.

I believe the magical number for threads not working properly is 10,000 posts and we are not even close to that yet.

Thanks.

I’ve been looking for that link too. I did not post it, and didn’t think to save it at the time. I’m sure I’ll find it before tomorrow morning, but I haven’t yet.

[MHM]

@trubandloki

I believe the magical number for threads not working properly is 10,000 posts

Even if the thread is still working up until the 9,999th post, that does not make it easier to navigate it if you’re looking for a specific thing.

[trubandloki]

@MHM

@trubandloki

I believe the magical number for threads not working properly is 10,000 posts

Even if the thread is still working up until the 9,999th post, that does not make it easier to navigate it if you’re looking for a specific thing.

So we should make a new thread every 100 posts?

I am pretty sure someone posted that link yesterday.

[MHM]

@trubandloki

So we should make a new thread every 100 posts?

Did you miss the part where I said 5,000 posts?

[Angela_Freda]

@eggbutt

I believe they would follow him to the ends of the earth. She has no plans to show during this season and I hope she proves me wrong. It wouldn’t surprise me if LK never goes down the centerline again

I wonder if that’s not intentional though, to support her claim of “loss” because of being shot.
Frankly, I say fine, you were forever physically changed making riding more difficult for you… I’ll concede that’s plausible.
But you haven’t proven that was caused by MB, and in fact your actions and behavior since suggest you have yourself to blame for that.
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[DownYonder]

@trubandloki

if someone posts the link for the court’s page, by tomorrow it will be a scroll up anyway and people will need it again. So, it makes far more sense to just wait until tomorrow, see if the hearing is public and then post the link if it is.

Once she finds the link, perhaps eKat can add it to her first post on this thread. Then folks don’t have to continually go through 5000+ posts to find it. Anytime anyone asks, we can just point them back to the first post.

[ekat]

@yaya

No. Not that I have seen.

The reality is it doesn’t even matter that much. Despite LaLa’s (LK’s) long, long posts on this forum that state otherwise, attorney-client privilege isn’t the magic cloak of protection she thinks it is, even if JK were barred appropriately.

Mr Silver, on behalf of SGF, really outlined this well in his opposition to the (belated and improper) motion to quash JK’s subpoena:

[MHM]

@Angela_Freda

@eggbutt

I believe they would follow him to the ends of the earth. She has no plans to show during this season and I hope she proves me wrong. It wouldn’t surprise me if LK never goes down the centerline again

I wonder if that’s not intentional though, to support her claim of “loss” because of being shot.
Frankly, I say fine, you were forever physically changed making riding more difficult for you… I’ll concede that’s plausible.
But you haven’t proven that was caused by MB, and in fact your actions and behavior since suggest you gave yourself to blame for that.
.

Except she showed again less than a year later, and I believe she posted video of herself riding not too long ago. In addition to bragging about riding multiple horses a day.