She is right. MB is in this because of his own actions.
But it doesn’t matter for the civil suit, if LK doesn’t come forward with proof. SHe could lose the case if she doesn’t show up, and when she does show up, she needs to have proof of her claims. We still don’t know if she has any proof, or that she’s going to show up for her deposition. LIke I said, early days. She may do so yet.
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There is not criteria on this site or thread that anyone have a law degree. If there was, no one would be commenting.
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Of course not, but if you are going to be snide and imply a practicing lawyer doesn’t understand how a lawsuit works then maybe you should be able to back up your claims with your own credentials.
And before we you go there, JK didn’t practice law…he went into business.
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But it doesn’t matter any more. Its over and done with. The Criminal trial isn’t part of her civil claim. She has to prove her claims at the civil trial and so far she hasn’t indicated she is going to do that. Telling the defense that they have to go find it for themselves doesn’t cut it. Either she has proof of what she’s claiming or she doesn’t. If she does, she has to provide it.
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Yes, we are not the judge and jury, just commenters on social media so no one is “relevant.” The barisone threads are ostensibly said to be about the trials not bashing a shooting victim and her family or anyone commenting who has a different opinion.
I haven’t heard any “plausible” other scenarios either just some very imaginative ones.
If Bilinkas could have found a shred of evidence for another scenario, he would have presented it at the criminal trial.
Here is a discussion about what happens when a party “no-shows” for their deposition, and how the the case, or parts of the case, can be dismissed.
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The criminal trial is done. It is what it is/was. What LK has to do now is present her evidence to the civil court. So far, she hasn’t shown for depositions, to present her evidence and answer questions about it. I don’t know that she has any evidence. She certainly doesn’t have evidence that it was MB who shot her. The local police saw to that. Hopefully she comes forward with some evidence about her lost wages and lost ability to ride. So far, it appears that there isn’t evidence of that, and that there is evidence to the contrary, but we’ll have to see. If she shows up for her deposition and doesn’t get the case thrown out.
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There was plenty of evidence he shot her. Testimony. Means. Motive. Opportunity. Possession of the weapon.
Not yet. She hasn’t shown up to present any of it. FIngers crossed she will. For her sake.
Edited - oh, what you mean in the criminal trial? Doesn’t count in the civil trial. She has to provide all that again. So far, she hasn’t indicated she is willing to do that.
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And all of that evidence was circumstantial, only implication, or impeached.
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Well that’s true. What was presented in the criminal trial may not hold any water in the civil trial. For example, the posession of the gun. Finding it underneath MB doesn’t mean he shot it. How is she going to prove that he shot it? Impeachable testimony? Certainly no forensic evidence that MB shot her.
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The witnesses who were saying that he shot her were impeached at the criminal trial. If they lie again on the stand ad the Civil trial, their testimony will mean nothing in the civil trial. Motive was not proven, he had no motive. LK said MHG put him put to it, but MHG isn’t part of this civil trial. Opportunity isn’t proven, its not proven that he brought the gun to the fight, and there’s no proof that he was the one who shot her. and who can prove that he did? Also, its not proven that he was in possession of the weopon. It was found under him after a severe beating, that doesn’t prove that he possessed the weapon.
The things Taylor allowed in the criminal trial by no means are guaranteed to be allowed in the Civil trial. And, crucially, the defense that Taylor disallowed in the criminal trial may very well now be allowed and attended to closely in the Civil trial, so its going to be a very different trial. It isn’t going to have the same out come as the Criminal trial, so to compare the new trial with the old one doesn’t mean anything.
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People, people.
Can we please show a little restraint and not follow the others down the rabbit hole as they attempt to derail the thread??
We’ve actually been having a decent conversation lately about current events in the civil case, not all the repetitive incorrect nonsense about the criminal trial.
Could we try to just ignore the derailers, either through will power or the ignore function? Please.
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Well, since the evidence is going to be similar….and the current motions are partially about what was collected (or not) during the criminal investigation……
Personally, I think Deininger’s filings for the contempt of KK have been very much under appreciated. There were a lot of implications laid out in that one.
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My favorite song from that movie. Thanks!
Nope…no evidence whatsoever other than the conflicting testimony of two impeached witnesses. ONCE AGAIN FOR THOSE SLOW TO COMPREHEND AFTER MONTHS OF DISCUSSION, THE CRIMINAL TRIAL IS OVER AND DOES NOT RELATE TO THE CIVIL TRIALS. PERIOD. LAUREN KANAREK HAS TO PROVE EVERYTHING SHE HAS CLAIMED.
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If the civil trials are supposed to be such a slam dunk for little Lauren, why did daddy privately message the judge? What was daddy attempting to do? Why has darling dearest not complied with the bombshell recordings and transcripts? Why have the parental units completely ignored legal subpoenas? Why did daddy lie here saying they had responded to the subpoenas but TWO law offices did not receive the responses? Who believes anything this family throws at the wall, other than the two argumentative, redundant posters who have returned from hiatus?
At least the thread had a reprive and enjoyed common sense and intelligent discussion for a few weeks.
I would love to know how that suit against CBS/48 Hours was received and responded to! Anything for a buck!
Someone somewhere said that FL house was heavily mortgaged recently. Interesting if true.
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