MB CIVIL SUIT UPDATE #10 K’s Request to Adjourn (delay) DENIED 11/01/22

[CanteringCarrot]

Also, did someone really say that they know people who have been through more, worse, or worse for longer and coped better so MB had no excuse?

I’ve got to go back and look.

Comparing people’s struggles and preservence, or how they handle matters when under stress is…full of ignorance at best. People have different “lines” or breaking points. There are many factors at play and what you might think is “worse” for one person, can be irrelevant. It shows a lack of compassion to think that way, but I also understand that mental health is often very misunderstood and mismanaged in the US.

Not saying that MB “had an excuse” exactly, but there could be explanations behind some of his actions. I’m actually not 100% clear on what happened the day of the shooting, due to reasons mentioned in my last post. I don’t know how/why some can be so certain? I get that the jury came out with a verdict, but that doesn’t exactly explain everything.

[trubandloki]

@CanteringCarrot

Also, did someone really say that they know people who have been through more, worse, or worse for longer and coped better so MB had no excuse?

Yes they did! Yes really! They said that. Can you believe it?

[CanteringCarrot]

@trubandloki

@Dragonfly90

Very well done…Thank you.

Curious, which part of that long post are you saying was well done, because parts of it have been proven to false, not just not plausible, but totally false.
So that makes me wonder which parts are you saying is well done, or are you agreeing with the untruths?

I know this wasn’t directed at me, but on a basic level I don’t disagree that he had a lot of stressors and poorly managed some things.

I do disagree with the blatant false statements though, and the certainly re what exactly happened the day of the shooting.

So I wouldn’t say “well done” but I’m also just not a pea in that pod.

[Sdel]

@FitzE

I will say, I don’t think that it could possibly have been MB not paying the gas bill. The insurance company would have jumped on that as proof it was his fault/negligence and not paid out. Instead, by all accounts, they paid out a pretty substantial sum.

You know….I remember somewhere it was said that MB was afraid LK was going to commit arson based on some comments she made (maybe from that text she sent about the drier, we didn’t get much context). We didn’t hear much more about that, but the witnesses and questions about the horrific mess of barn fires seemed kind of odd and to stick out awkwardly in the trial.

I mean, she claimed insurance fraud over a pipe. She surely would have been screaming about arson from the rooftops if there had happened to be a fire.

[CanteringCarrot]

@trubandloki

@CanteringCarrot

Also, did someone really say that they know people who have been through more, worse, or worse for longer and coped better so MB had no excuse?

Yes they did! Yes really! They said that. Can you believe it?

On these threads, I can believe it.

Still waiting for someone on here to tell me, as a fact, that the earth is flat. It’s only a matter of time

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@BigMama1

@SierraMist

No matter what LK did to cause CPS to investigate, or fire marshals to investigate, and all the other BS that went on, he was wrong to even drive down to that house to confront LK.

One MAJOR flaw in this line of reasoning; he couldn’t have been driving to the house to confront LK. As far as Michael knew LK and RG had been ordered to vacate by the fire marshall and had left the premises. He had no reason to believe they would be at the house that morning.

He drove to the house in the early afternoon, about 2:00. LK and RG had probably been seen around the barns by then that day.

Why did he get in the truck and drive to the house other than to confront them?

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@DownYonder

@CurrentlyHorseless

I think the the prosecutor successfully proved his case to the required level of proof.

I think the prosecutor was angling for that big promotion (and perhaps looking even further down the road to higher positions in the judicial system - or possibly a political career). So to win “that big attempted murder trial” (which would be a huge feather in his cap), in which the victim was the daughter of a local retired lawyer who may or may not have had social or political ties with TPTB in the area, he (the prosecutor) managed to make lemonade out of lemons (admitted drug addict grifters as star witnesses, shoddy police investigation, the willingness to affirmatively ignore or to object to evidence that might expose his star witnesses to further scrutiny, plus being aided and abetted by a presiding judge who seems to hold a grudge against the defense attorney and may or may not have social or political ties to the same TPTB).

Holy cow, that is a run-on sentence worthy of Ken Braddick!

So what? Whatever his motivation, the prosecutor proved his case to a higher standard of proof than Nagel will be required to meet.

Nagel may be working on a contingency basis, so his motivation may be stronger than the prosecutors.

[roseymare]

Yep. Have to leave the sink cupboard open when it gets into the single digits or pipes will freeze.

[3PonyFarm]

Thank you!

[trubandloki]

@CanteringCarrot

Still waiting for someone on here to tell me, as a fact, that the earth is flat. It’s only a matter of time

Where I live it is very bumpy, not flat at all. Add in seasonal potholes and flat is not a word I would use.

@CurrentlyHorseless

@BigMama1

@SierraMist

No matter what LK did to cause CPS to investigate, or fire marshals to investigate, and all the other BS that went on, he was wrong to even drive down to that house to confront LK.

One MAJOR flaw in this line of reasoning; he couldn’t have been driving to the house to confront LK. As far as Michael knew LK and RG had been ordered to vacate by the fire marshall and had left the premises. He had no reason to believe they would be at the house that morning.

He drove to the house in the early afternoon, about 2:00. LK and RG had probably been seen around the barns by then that day.

Why did he get in the truck and drive to the house other than to confront them?

There are many plausible scenarios for why he drove the truck there that day, none of which include confronting Lauren Kanarek or Robert Guy Goodwin/Jim E Starks, all of which have been posted already.

This is not another pink sharpie moment at all.

[Omgitsme]

The earth is flat!
Did you win bingo with that?

[trubandloki]

@Omgitsme

The earth is flat!
Did you win bingo with that?

It does not count if you are only saying it to say it. And we all know you do not mean it.

No Bingo for you.

[Jealoushe]

@trubandloki

I have no doubt that Lauren Kanarek would tell you the answer to this.

Isn’t she banned?

[BrownDerby]

Our handyman is president of my town’s Flat Earth Society. His dog is vice president.

All this concern about the gun when there was a shovel (undisputed) in the pickup bed. A shovel!

[Unfforgettable]

re: MB driving to the farmhouse: If the house was deemed uninhabitable/condemned and he knew no one was supposed to be there yet noticed activity and LK’s or RG’s vehicles parked there it would make perfect sense to drive over to check on things. I know I certainly would.

[Sdel]

@Jealoushe

@trubandloki

I have no doubt that Lauren Kanarek would tell you the answer to this.

Isn’t she banned?

Her parents aren’t. I’m sure Seeker/IM could have given you a timely answer.

[MorganSercu]

Like they did answering the subpoena.

[Jealoushe]

the posters here are pretty quick tho haha got the info

[Omgitsme]

Brb gotta get brainwashed so I believe it and can win Bingo.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@trubandloki

@CanteringCarrot

Still waiting for someone on here to tell me, as a fact, that the earth is flat. It’s only a matter of time

Where I live it is very bumpy, not flat at all. Add in seasonal potholes and flat is not a word I would use.

@CurrentlyHorseless

@BigMama1

@SierraMist

No matter what LK did to cause CPS to investigate, or fire marshals to investigate, and all the other BS that went on, he was wrong to even drive down to that house to confront LK.

One MAJOR flaw in this line of reasoning; he couldn’t have been driving to the house to confront LK. As far as Michael knew LK and RG had been ordered to vacate by the fire marshall and had left the premises. He had no reason to believe they would be at the house that morning.

He drove to the house in the early afternoon, about 2:00. LK and RG had probably been seen around the barns by then that day.

Why did he get in the truck and drive to the house other than to confront them?

There are many plausible scenarios for why he drove the truck there that day, none of which include confronting Lauren Kanarek or Robert Guy Goodwin/Jim E Starks, all of which have been posted already.

This is not another pink sharpie moment at all.

Yeah, I agree. It doesn’t even matter why he drove to the house with the gun that afternoon, just that he did. The civil case doesn’t depend on whether he intended to kill her, just the fact that he injured her by shooting her.