MB CIVIL SUIT UPDATE #10 K’s Request to Adjourn (delay) DENIED 11/01/22

[Fiesta01]

@trubandloki

(Sorry, I wanted to give you a winning blue ribbon but the emoji collection fails on that front so this pretty red hair ribbon is now your prize.)

We’ll pretend we’re in Canada or the UK.

[erinmeri]

For the love of all things that are holy, please do not rehash what the verdict means or does not mean. These posters will never change their tune unless one of the jurors goes public… and even then…

[MHM]

@Fiesta01

@trubandloki

(Sorry, I wanted to give you a winning blue ribbon but the emoji collection fails on that front so this pretty red hair ribbon is now your prize.)

We’ll pretend we’re in Canada or the UK.

What about a gold medal?

[DownYonder]

@eggbutt

While skimming the 48 Hours episode last night, I noticed again how Schellhorn always, always looked to the left and was shifty, never looking the camera or interviewer in the eye. Bikinkas and Deininger looked straight into the camera and spoke completely relaxed. It was clear, to me at least, Schellhorn didn’t want to be there.

I meant to reply to this earlier. I can easily imagine that his appearance on 48 Hours presented a bit of a moral dilemma for Schellhorn. On one hand, if the show painted a favorable portrait of him, it could play very, very well for his future aspirations. But if on the other hand he came off in an unfavorable light, it could sow doubt in the minds of the viewers as to whether the outcome of the trial was just. Schellhorn may have also been worried the show might highlight the fact that he based his case on the word of two drug addict grifters and admitted liars with multiple criminal charges and spotty (or no) verifiable work history. I also wonder if his appearance was mandated by the DA office’s public relations team, or perhaps by his boss. At any rate, he certainly did not seem at ease being interviewed for the show.

[trubandloki]

@Fiesta01

@trubandloki

(Sorry, I wanted to give you a winning blue ribbon but the emoji collection fails on that front so this pretty red hair ribbon is now your prize.)

We’ll pretend we’re in Canada or the UK.

Perfect! Love that plan!

(You have to admit that it is weird that with all those emojis there is not one with an award type ribbon. I guess I should have gone with this - )

[MHM]

@erinmeri

These posters will never change their tune unless one of the jurors goes public…

I’m still a little disappointed that 48 Hours did not include any comments from the jurors.

[Angela_Freda]

@SierraMist

Someone else posted that long ago when asked why the pipes froze - that MB didn’t make arrangements with the gas company and/or didn’t pay the bills. It wasn’t objected to then so I assumed that was the case. Obviously there was no heat in the house and the furnace didn’t need to be replaced. If there was some other cause other than no gas, then I stand corrected. So you know why the pipes froze?

not obvious. None of it.
unless you, yourself know this its simply gossip, hearsay or conjecture that could be accurate, partly accurate, or incorrect.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Knights_Mom

@CurrentlyHorseless

So what? Whatever his motivation, the prosecutor proved his case to a higher standard of proof than Nagel will be required to meet.

The prosecutor LOST his case so he didn’t prove anything.

That’s that whole NG NGRI verdict thing.

The prosecutor made his case on actus reus, which was his burden to prove.

He did not have a burden to prove MB was sane, and indeed the defense met their burden of proving mens rea was not met.

That’s the whole NG == NGRI thing, as you say.

[MHM]

@DownYonder

At any rate, he certainly did not seem at ease being interviewed for the show.

Maybe he was afraid they were going to show the clip of him laughing at the working student.

[trubandloki]

@DownYonder

@eggbutt

While skimming the 48 Hours episode last night, I noticed again how Schellhorn always, always looked to the left and was shifty, never looking the camera or interviewer in the eye. Bikinkas and Deininger looked straight into the camera and spoke completely relaxed. It was clear, to me at least, Schellhorn didn’t want to be there.

I meant to reply to this earlier. I can easily imagine that his appearance on 48 Hours presented a bit of a moral dilemma for Schellhorn. On one hand, if the show painted a favorable portrait of him, it could play very, very well for his future aspirations. But if on the other hand he came off in an unfavorable light, it could sow doubt in the minds of the viewers as to whether the outcome of the trial was just. Schellhorn may have also been worried the show might highlight the fact that he based his case on the word of two drug addict grifters and admitted liars with multiple criminal charges and spotty (or no) verifiable work history. I also wonder if his appearance was mandated by the DA office’s public relations team, or perhaps by his boss. At any rate, he certainly did not seem at ease being interviewed for the show.

At one point someone posted a post verdict press conference from the DA’s office and Schellhorn was standing off to the side in that, and he looked miserable there too.

[DownYonder]

@MHM

I’m still a little disappointed that 48 Hours did not include any comments from the jurors.

I am guessing those jurors prefer to stay under the K’s radar lest they become the next targets.

[trubandloki]

@DownYonder

@MHM

I’m still a little disappointed that 48 Hours did not include any comments from the jurors.

I am guessing those jurors prefer to stay under the K’s radar lest they become the next targets.

That was my thought too.

I am sure many of them went home and googled and saw the horrible things Lauren (and her other identities) were posting on Youtube and such. (After the verdict, clearly.)

[DownYonder]

@Angela_Freda

@SierraMist

Someone else posted that long ago when asked why the pipes froze - that MB didn’t make arrangements with the gas company and/or didn’t pay the bills. It wasn’t objected to then so I assumed that was the case. Obviously there was no heat in the house and the furnace didn’t need to be replaced. If there was some other cause other than no gas, then I stand corrected. So you know why the pipes froze?

not obvious. None of it, unless you, yourself know this its simply gossip, hearsay or conjecture that could be accurate, partly accurate, or incorrect.

When SM says that “Someone else posted that long ago when asked why the pipes froze - that MB didn’t make arrangements with the gas company and/or didn’t pay the bills.” - I can’t help but wonder who that “someone else” was.

[MHM]

@DownYonder

@MHM

I’m still a little disappointed that 48 Hours did not include any comments from the jurors.

I am guessing those jurors prefer to stay under the K’s radar lest they become the next targets.

That’s very possible, although 48 Hours could have included comments from them without disclosing their identities.

I realize 48 Hours probably had more material than they could possibly fit into one show. Maybe in the follow up episode!

[Angela_Freda]

@SierraMist

As I said, far worse situations

That is not a reasonable statement
Worse is very personal and not the same person to person.

[trubandloki]

@Angela_Freda

@SierraMist

As I said, far worse situations

That is not a reasonable statement
Worse is very personal and not the same person to person.

That was posted by someone who seems to think the only way pipes can freeze is if the heat is off. So take that, along with the other information, with a grain of salt. It is plausible that they are not working with a full set of facts.

[DownYonder]

@trubandloki

At one point someone posted a post verdict press conference from the DA’s office and Schellhorn was standing off to the side in that, and he looked miserable there too.

Well, he had just seen the accused ACQUITTED. Perhaps he was worried that losing a case that had been broadcast on L&C via You Tube and garnered many negative comments about the prosecution’s case - and had also garnered the attention of national media (NYT, 48 Hours, etc.) - was going to negatively impact his hopes for promotion.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Sparky

He had every right to check his empty house to assess what repairs needed to be made.

And he needed to be carrying a gun to check the house for needed repairs? Needed repairs that the building department just enumerated for him?

[trubandloki]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@Sparky

He had every right to check his empty house to assess what repairs needed to be made.

And he needed to be carrying a gun to check the house for needed repairs? Needed repairs that the building department just enumerated for him?

< whispers quietly to remind CH >

There is no proof he took the gun with him.

And if he did happen to take the gun with him (which again, there is no proof of) …It is a concrete plausible scenario that with the dog attacking someone the day before, and him not knowing if that same dog was still lose inside his house, that protection was needed.

Having been bitten by a dog in my life, I would have carried a weapon when entering my own house if there was a risk of an out of control dog inside.

[CindyB59]

I can almost guarantee they did. I surely did after our jury found the defendants guilty. And boy, did it affirm our decision. Plus our judge talked to us afterwards and said we should be able to sleep well that night.