MB CIVIL SUIT UPDATE #10 K’s Request to Adjourn (delay) DENIED 11/01/22

[Sparky]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@Sparky

He had every right to check his empty house to assess what repairs needed to be made.

And he needed to be carrying a gun to check the house for needed repairs? Needed repairs that the building department just enumerated for him?

You just don’t get it, why am I not surprised. It’s his property. He can carry a gun anytime he wants, anywhere he wants. On. His. Own. Property. I carry one on mine, without giving it a second thought.

[trubandloki]

@Sparky

@CurrentlyHorseless

@Sparky

He had every right to check his empty house to assess what repairs needed to be made.

And he needed to be carrying a gun to check the house for needed repairs? Needed repairs that the building department just enumerated for him?

You just don’t get it, why am I not surprised. It’s his property. He can carry a gun anytime he wants, anywhere he wants. On. His. Own. Property. I carry one on mine, without giving it a second thought.

Sparky, I like your reason better than mine. You are so right.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@trubandloki

@CurrentlyHorseless

@Sparky

He had every right to check his empty house to assess what repairs needed to be made.

And he needed to be carrying a gun to check the house for needed repairs? Needed repairs that the building department just enumerated for him?

< whispers quietly to remind CH >

There is no proof he took the gun with him.

And if he did happen to take the gun with him (which again, there is no proof of) …It is a concrete plausible scenario that with the dog attacking someone the day before, and him not knowing if that same dog was still lose inside his house, that protection was needed.

Having been bitten by a dog in my life, I would have carried a weapon when entering my own house if there was a risk of an out of control dog inside.

Having been bitten by a dog in my life, I would never carry a gun when entering my own house, especially if I had been acquainted with the dog for months. MB and Rosie were well familiar with each other by then.

[hut-ho78]

What I remember about the pipes freezing is that there was speculation as to the cause and back and forth conversation about winterizing homes. Is the heat turned off, fuel deliveries stopped, and pipes drained? Is the heat continued so the pipes won’t freeze at all? There was even discussion of who was responsible for insuring the correct winterizing before they went to Florida (and it would be the first trip down without VK managing everything) and was it forgotten, winterized incorrectly, or even sabotaged. I’ve been trying to remember what thread or who was involved in the discussion.

[Angela_Freda]

@ekat

Especially since the Fire Marshall said they were going to go back that day to inspect what they got the video of from LK.

Hmmm, interesting.
Would MB or the other owners if the farm have been made aware of that revisit? Ie an appointment.
I wonder if that’s why he went up to the house, to see what they’d done?

[Maria]

I just went back to listen to the insurance adjuster guy. At the end of his testimony Mr D presented a propane receipt showing propane had been delivered. However, before all that could be entered Judge T called a sidebar. Mr D had no more questions and Mr S had no questions for the adjuster guy.

SO…. Propane was in the tank at the farm house.

It’s so easy to find some of this stuff with very little effort.

[ekat]

@Maria

It’s so easy to find some of this stuff with very little effort.

That’s what I’m saying! And thank you!

It’s amazing that there’s a whole discussion about MB not paying the gas bill when the info is right there.

[trubandloki]

@hut-ho78

What I remember about the pipes freezing is that there was speculation as to the cause and back and forth conversation about winterizing homes. Is the heat turned off, fuel deliveries stopped, and pipes drained? Is the heat continued so the pipes won’t freeze at all? There was even discussion of who was responsible for insuring the correct winterizing before they went to Florida (and it would be the first trip down without VK managing everything) and was it forgotten, winterized incorrectly, or even sabotaged. I’ve been trying to remember what thread or who was involved in the discussion.

Hey Hut. Did you read anything that was posted on this topic? Did you watch the court testimony from the insurance adjuster that someone posted here for you to see?
The house was heated, the heat was working fine, there was fuel for the heat. It is just a thing that sometimes pipes freeze. Old houses, pipes in cupboards…they freeze.
Not some fancy conspiracy, no matter how much you want it to be one.

[trubandloki]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@trubandloki

@CurrentlyHorseless

@Sparky

He had every right to check his empty house to assess what repairs needed to be made.

And he needed to be carrying a gun to check the house for needed repairs? Needed repairs that the building department just enumerated for him?

< whispers quietly to remind CH >

There is no proof he took the gun with him.

And if he did happen to take the gun with him (which again, there is no proof of) …It is a concrete plausible scenario that with the dog attacking someone the day before, and him not knowing if that same dog was still lose inside his house, that protection was needed.

Having been bitten by a dog in my life, I would have carried a weapon when entering my own house if there was a risk of an out of control dog inside.

Having been bitten by a dog in my life, I would never carry a gun when entering my own house, especially if I had been acquainted with the dog for months. MB and Rosie were well familiar with each other by then.

And has been stated my many, they were afraid of Rosie. Rosie should have known the person that was bit the day before too.
You might not carry a gun in your own house because your squatter has a viscous dog in there, that is your business. But that is a very concrete plausible scenario.

[Sdel]

@Maria

I just went back to listen to the insurance adjuster guy. At the end of his testimony Mr D presented a propane receipt showing propane had been delivered. However, before all that could be entered Judge T called a sidebar. Mr D had no more questions and Mr S had no questions for the adjuster guy.

SO…. Propane was in the tank at the farm house.

It’s so easy to find some of this stuff with very little effort.

It really begs the question about what was so horrible about allowing those questions in. Even if it was “not relevant”, it seems like an innocuous enough set of questions that the prosecution/judge should not worry about the answers.

[hut-ho78]

@trubandloki

@hut-ho78

What I remember about the pipes freezing is that there was speculation as to the cause and back and forth conversation about winterizing homes. Is the heat turned off, fuel deliveries stopped, and pipes drained? Is the heat continued so the pipes won’t freeze at all? There was even discussion of who was responsible for insuring the correct winterizing before they went to Florida (and it would be the first trip down without VK managing everything) and was it forgotten, winterized incorrectly, or even sabotaged. I’ve been trying to remember what thread or who was involved in the discussion.

Hey Hut. Did you read anything that was posted on this topic? Did you watch the court testimony from the insurance adjuster that someone posted here for you to see?
The house was heated, the heat was working fine, there was fuel for the heat. It is just a thing that sometimes pipes freeze. Old houses, pipes in cupboards…they freeze.
Not some fancy conspiracy, no matter how much you want it to be one.

Thank you so much. Yes. I did read it.

[Sdel]

@trubandloki

And has been stated my many, they were afraid of Rosie. Rosie should have known the person that was bit the day before too.

Rosie should have been familiar with Jordan. She lived there too. Yet Jordan was prevented from testifying as to how scared of the dog she and everyone else was and why. Does anyone remember if RC identified which dog bit her by name?

[trubandloki]

@hut-ho78

@trubandloki

@hut-ho78

What I remember about the pipes freezing is that there was speculation as to the cause and back and forth conversation about winterizing homes. Is the heat turned off, fuel deliveries stopped, and pipes drained? Is the heat continued so the pipes won’t freeze at all? There was even discussion of who was responsible for insuring the correct winterizing before they went to Florida (and it would be the first trip down without VK managing everything) and was it forgotten, winterized incorrectly, or even sabotaged. I’ve been trying to remember what thread or who was involved in the discussion.

Hey Hut. Did you read anything that was posted on this topic? Did you watch the court testimony from the insurance adjuster that someone posted here for you to see?
The house was heated, the heat was working fine, there was fuel for the heat. It is just a thing that sometimes pipes freeze. Old houses, pipes in cupboards…they freeze.
Not some fancy conspiracy, no matter how much you want it to be one.

Thank you so much. Yes. I did read it.

Did you watch the video? Because if you watched the video it seems like you would not have made that post you made above that I quoted.

[Angela_Freda]

@CurrentlyHorseless

Having been bitten by a dog in my life, I would never carry a gun when entering my own house, especially if I had been acquainted with the dog for months. MB and Rosie were well familiar with each other by then

Lol, as if that’s how it works, the dog is acquainted with someone and therefore won’t bite.
Tell that to people living in homes with dogs who attack and kill them.

[trubandloki]

@Angela_Freda, that is way too much logic for some people…how dare you attempt to be logical.

[ekat]

@Angela_Freda

Hmmm, interesting.
Would MB or the other owners if the farm have been made aware of that revisit? Ie an appointment.
I wonder if that’s why he went up to the house, to see what they’d done?

Possibly?

I know there was testimony that inspectors would be back the following day. Might have been in the paperwork, too.

[Sdel]

@Angela_Freda

Tell that to people living in homes with dogs who attack and kill them.

Have I got a thread I can share……

[Kitty64]

Especially since Shellhorn asked all those stupid questions about the photos, of horses, in a horse training facility.

[cutter99]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@Sparky

He had every right to check his empty house to assess what repairs needed to be made.

And he needed to be carrying a gun to check the house for needed repairs? Needed repairs that the building department just enumerated for him?

How do you know for sure he had a gun with him when he went to the house?

He has no memory of the event, and the only testimony indicating he did is that of two impeached admitted liars and drug addicts.

HINT: How do you know if an addict is lying??? Their lips are moving.

[Maria]

The fire inspection guy was going to notify MB by email the next morning about the problems/problems solved at the farm house, but did not do so that morning nor that afternoon.

LK sent him pictures and videos of the fixed smoke detector(s) and he let them know the issue had been abated, is that the correct word?

MB was never notified before the shooting that the farm house was not an issue any longer. Another SO, he may not have thought anyone would be at the farm house.

It’s plausible.