MB CIVIL SUIT UPDATE #10 K’s Request to Adjourn (delay) DENIED 11/01/22

[trubandloki]

@lazaret

It could never be legitimate no matter the reasoning behind it, but I’m sure you and I both know that.

Thank you for saying this. This is kind of what I have been wondering all along. If there is ever a legitimate reason for someone in the position that Jonathan Kanarek is in to contact the judge like that.

[ohnoO]

@eggbutt

I wonder, if LK was banned from the family home, how does the family justify all being together in the FL home?

Someone here dropped the idea quite some time ago that maybe it was JK/KK’s insurance company who required that she stay away.
It could be that they know that either LK or RG would most likely possess drugs and they would risk losing a lot if they were busted at their home.

[eggbutt]

Isn’t it surprising they honor that restriction but ignore so many others? I believe it must be something much more serious than an insurance issue.

[BigMama1]

@hut-ho78

Yes, her comments about GJ losing a child were terrible, they were as bad as the comments here to and about LK and her parents about her being shot twice by MB, flatlining twice, being scarred for life. She already had behavioral issues. Now she gets to deal with PTSD too

As bad? Not even close. LK made up horrible, disgusting stories about GJ and publicly spread them far and wide.

People here aren’t making up stories about LK, just discussing her own words and actions, and those of her family members who aided and abetted her. It’s possible to have sympathy for the trauma the family went through while still wanting them all to be held accountable for their egregious actions.

You are overlooking the relevance of GJ to the MB case; it’s another example of LK embarking on a relentless campaign of harassment and mental torture to try and ruin someone’s life, just as she did with MB. This wasn’t her first rodeo and I’m afraid it won’t be her last.

[trubandloki]

@Jenerationx

I wonder what Nagle thought when he found out about it. I wouldn’t think he’d be pleased about it.

Bruce is the lawyer who more than once has said out loud, on purpose, that the jury members in the criminal case were insane. So, Bruce’s moral compass aligns similarly to that of Jonathan Kanarek (@Inigo-montoya) so I doubt that Bruce was upset at all at Jonathan’s attempt to give them a leg up.

Just catching up and reading about Robert Guy Goodwin/Jim E Starks two tickets in two cities the night he not only is in theory suffering from a severe injury that Kirby Kanarek (@Seeker1) insisted he go to the ER for, but also when his beloved fiance is maybe dying after being cut from “stern to stern”. Then he also goes to the farm in the morning. So clearly he did not spend too much time waiting at Lauren’s bed side.

[Sdel]

@trubandloki

Just catching up and reading about Robert Guy Goodwin/Jim E Starks two tickets in two cities the night he not only is in theory suffering from a severe injury that Kirby Kanarek insisted he go to the ER for, but also when his beloved fiance is maybe dying after being cut from “stern to stern”. Then he also goes to the farm in the morning. So clearly he did not spend too much time waiting at Lauren’s bed side.

Yes, I found driving very difficult, if not impossible, when I had a broken hand. So, was their a “friend” that could be tracked down?

[DownYonder]

@lazaret

judges don’t usually like people thinking that anyone is their friend when it comes to legal proceedings. It goes to the very heart of their ethics as a judge, and putting them in a compromising position doesn’t usually go over well.

Of course I know none of the parties involved or what relationships they may have to each other. This is speaking in generalities with the judges I have dealt with. We all know each other but it would be a grave, grave error to assume that any prior dealings or friendly interactions with a judge would entitle me to access to that individual in the context of a case. It’s absolutely out of bounds.

Do we know if the email went to Sceusi’s business email address (at the court)? Or could it have possibly gone to his personal email address? If the latter, then they somehow knew each other in their personal lives (belonged to the same country club or civic association or are golfing buddies or worked together on some charity event, etc.). And that could explain why JK may have thought that Sceusi was his “friend” and would do him a favor regarding a case.

I wonder if he was shocked to learn that Sceusi had forwarded the email to Silver to be shared with attorneys for the other defendants. (And if so, I can just imagine the rage posting he would have done if he had the chance.)

[trubandloki]

@DownYonder

I wonder if he was shocked to learn that Sceusi had forwarded the email to Silver to be shared with attorneys for the other defendants.

I do not see why any lawyer would be shocked that an email they sent to a judge was shared with the apposing counsel. One does not have to do criminal or civil law to know that a good judge will not accept something like that and pretend it does not exist.

I can not imagine why Jonathan Kanrek thought that would be the case. Has he done something like this in the past and the judge did not share?

[DownYonder]

@Knights_Mom

LK told GJ that GJ was responsible for her child’s death because GJ was engaging in acts of a sexual nature instead of supervising her child in a pool. LK then announced this to the world. And now you expect people to feel deep compassion for LKs parents moments of fear and grief for their daughter LK who lived and is now just fine?

I was - and still am - absolutely flabbergasted at the vileness of that attack on GJ. I had started getting an inkling of the kind of person LK was from hearing about her actions prior to the HH incident, but when I saw screenshots of her posts about GJ, I realized the depth of her depravity. How anyone could be so cruel, so vicious, so despicable, so monstrous was just shocking. And that is when I started to truly understand what she had done to MB.

[DownYonder]

@trubandloki

I do not see why any lawyer would be shocked that an email they sent to a judge was shared with the apposing counsel. One does not have to do criminal or civil law to know that a good judge will not accept something like that and pretend it does not exist.

I can not imagine why Jonathan Kanrek thought that would be the case. Has he done something like this in the past and the judge did not share?

Like I said, if JK and Sceusi knew each other in their personal lives, JK may have thought that Sceusi was “his buddy” and would do him a favor. Maybe JK is so used to getting his way through intimidation (hints about legal action, etc.), he just assumed that Sceusi would hold the correspondence in confidence. And perhaps JK has resorted to those tactics in the past - and they always worked.

[MHM]

@trubandloki

@DownYonder

I wonder if he was shocked to learn that Sceusi had forwarded the email to Silver to be shared with attorneys for the other defendants.

I do not see why any lawyer would be shocked that an email they sent to a judge was shared with the apposing counsel. One does not have to do criminal or civil law to know that a good judge will not accept something like that and pretend it does not exist.

I can not imagine why Jonathan Kanrek thought that would be the case. Has he done something like this in the past and the judge did not share?

Maybe someone should check judge Taylor’s email accounts.

[lazaret]

@DownYonder

Do we know if the email went to Sceusi’s business email address (at the court)? Or could it have possibly gone to his personal email address?

We don’t know, but even if it was sent by carrier pigeon, bat signal, Enigma machine, or skywriting, the Judge did the correct thing and disclosed the email (looks like verbatim) to opposing counsel. As any attorney and probably most people who are not attorneys would know that you can’t just talk to a judge about an ongoing case. The judge similarly has an obligation to “shut down” communications and notify the sender of the impropriety. That is the only response they can give to an ex parte communication.

[Bogey2]

JK forgot the golden rule…never write it if you can speak it, never speak it if you can nod it, never nod it if you can wink it!

[eggbutt]

@Bogey2

JK forgot the golden rule…never write it if you can speak it, never speak it if you can nod it, never nod it if you can wink it!

I this!

[Angela_Freda]

@BigMama1

MB was sent to Anne Klein for evaluation

Which has been accomplished, and then some I’m sure.

I wonder what the staff at AK think.
At the Krol hearing, the description was of a patient who was helping others, involved, engaged, helpful and cooperative, and unmedicated.
So, now they’ve had even longer to observe him.
I hope he’s collecting more assessments, even unofficial, of the same.

Perhaps this extended time at AK, and the extra long treatment period meted out after that assessment but not yet begun… will backfire on those who felt the need to stray from the Krol protocol.

As has happened with each person so far in this vendetta, who thought they’d get the best of a self made success story, and ended up being exposed as a true villain themselves.

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[DownYonder]

@lazaret

I should add subsequent to my earlier post that it’s possible that the judge did not ever personally see the email. Many, if not most, judges, have their communications read first by a clerk or other assistant who responds to ex parte communications with the appropriate dissuasion and disclosure so as to avoid any appearance of impropriety. I don’t know what the NJ advisory board has to say about this specifically but in my state that is what happens. An email to a judge would be returned notifying the sender that the judge cannot consider any information sent, the communication is improper, and to seek legal advice from an attorney.

ETA: this is especially true in jurisdictions where “everybody knows everbody” and it is difficult to preserve the appearance of impropriety without such a system, with so many means to engage in unsolicited communication in the technological age.

It would be quite enlightening to know if JK sent it to Sceusi’s personal email address rather than through the court email system.

Would that be considered an even more egregious attempt to sway the judge?

[Angela_Freda]

@Warmblood1

I honestly did not know how the public would respond but it is severely in opposition of LK. I think she should have taken the settlement proposed to her

Ok, I just got up and am only halfway through my first cuppa…
But did I actually forget LK was offered a settlement?
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[Angela_Freda]

@DownYonder

Like I said, if JK and Sceusi knew each other in their personal lives, JK may have thought that Sceusi was “his buddy” and would do him a favor.

Maybe he’s used to all lawyers he meets being his buddy and willing to skirt protocol and procedure?

[DownYonder]

@lazaret

That last one turned out to be a problem in a case I worked on that ended in the judge getting a new phone number and a parent getting a week in jail on contempt charges after they kept trying to get the judge removed from the case by tricking them into answering calls on their personal cell phone.

I had actually started wondering if JK did it deliberately to try to force Sceusi to recuse himself. IOW, another attempt to delay things.

[trubandloki]

@Angela_Freda

But did I actually forget LK was offered a settlement?

No, the only one (or group) that claims that is Lauren Kanarek and her family.