MB CIVIL SUIT UPDATE #10 K’s Request to Adjourn (delay) DENIED 11/01/22

[DownYonder]

@MHM

@Jenerationx

I wonder who gave them to her while LK was in a coma.

Somebody on a one-way street in Newark?

Ha, I just postulated the same thing. (Hadn’t seen your post yet…)

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Knights_Mom

Consider the possibility that Taylor was contacted by someone with an agenda and warned it would be in his best interest to rule in a way not conducive to MBs immediate release. It seems clear that Taylor is being overly cautious for a reason of self preservation.

Who would this “someone” who is “warning” the judge be in your scenario? JK? A member of the Jewish NJ Mafia?

I think such a scenario is utter fantasy, which goes nicely with other fantasies such as MB acted in self defense when he shot LK.

[erinmeri]

@3PonyFarm

Hopefully the GFM posted correctly and you can read the new update.

Sadly, no:

But, thanks to @LiberalSnowflake for posting a screenshot!

I recalled that on Greystone’s website they have a family handbook.

Handbook: https://www.nj.gov/health/integratedhealth/documents/hospitals/NJ_StatePsychiatricHospitalHandbook.rev.11.2018.pdf
Greystone Website: https://www.nj.gov/health/integratedhealth/hospitals/greystone/

In case anyone knows Lara and wants to pass it along.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@ekat

@omare

If the committee report cannot be considered why would it be allowed in by MB counsel? It seems based on above comments, that it should not have been allowed to be submitted?

According to the GFM update, they didn’t submit a report. It was a footnote in the report from the team that actually did the evaluation.

I can’t imagine Mr Bilinkas not objecting to that.

So, according to the GFM, the administrative committee charged with providing a recommendation did not submit their report, but submitted a single footnote from the report? The footnote but not the sentence that it was qualifying?

[ekat]

@CurrentlyHorseless

So, according to the GFM, the administrative committee charged with providing a recommendation did not submit their report, but submitted a single footnote from the report? The footnote but not the sentence that it was qualifying?

The administrative team, who never met with MB, was not charged with providing a report. The evaluation team, starting with the psychiatrist that testified, per NJ’s rules that it must come from a psychiatrist, was. The admin footnote was a footnote to that report. Per the GFM update.

[jvanrens]

Might be too many big words…

[Knights_Mom]

@CurrentlyHorseless

Who would this “someone” who is “warning” the judge be in your scenario? JK? A member of the Jewish NJ Mafia?

I think such a scenario is utter fantasy, which goes nicely with other fantasies such as MB acted in self defense when he shot LK.

Jewish NJ Mafia? Now why on earth would you suggest that?

As for the rest, since you believe all sorts of weirdness, what you happen to believe is of little concern to me.

But do know that the upcoming jury is going to believe as I do about the shooting.

[Ambitious_Kate]

@DownYonder

Totally off topic but wouldn’t it be far cheaper to just get a pizza from a local “good Italian restaurant”?

When you live in Ohio, like me, there are no “good Italian restautrants”. There are some Italian ones, but I wouldn’t call the food good. There is no pizza here. They don’t know what pizza is. And nobody has a hundred year old coal fired oven, like back home for me is New Haven ct. That’s pizza. Looking for something that will ship to me is vital.

[Knights_Mom]

@Ambitious_Kate

When you live in Ohio, like me, there are no “good Italia

Neanderthals!!

[KurPlexed]

Can you imagine laying in bed at night and being forced to realize that you drove someone (someone who had their shit together, someone who could handle a 1500lb wild animal) to the brink of insanity? Caused them so much fear that they felt they had to arm themself (maybe/maybe not) on their own property to protect themself from you? Caused them to (maybe/ maybe not) to shoot you to make it all stop?

How would it make you feel about yourself, when you’re alone with your own thoughts? These are the things I wonder.

And for the record I’m well aware of how HH and CH feel, so no need to chime in with that again. The whole he had money/marital/depression (who doesn’t?) problems.

[Ambitious_Kate]

@Knights_Mom

Neanderthals!!

You have no idea!

[Sparky]

You’d actually have to have a heart and soul for all those things to matter to you. Both are missing in this lunatic of a predator.

[KurPlexed]

There has to be something in there. I refuse to believe (naively so) there are people lacking even the “simplest” decency walking around among us. Life is too scary to belive otherwise.

Edit to correct natively to naively.

[Mersidoats]

LO also posted a link to the civil case filings in the GoFundMe update. I thought that was interesting. More MB supporters will get to see the absolute clown-car antics of Nagel, JK, et al. If they can navigate the tractors and stoplights.

[Omgitsme]

From what I’ve been told they’ve never met in person.

[hut-ho78]

So this goes back to people asking me why the judge ordered a 6 month time before a review. There is such a 6 month time. There is a Conditional Extension Pending Placement (CEPP) explained in VI.C. Page 32.

It’s for when a committee no longer meets the requirement for involuntary commitment but a suitable place for them to go has not been found and the level of custodial care needed has not been determined.

This would fit with the state vs Fields guidance about not releasing someone into society without the step down program/working the levels to avoid revision even if it is recommended

I believe Judge Taylor is a good and fair judge and acting appropriately. It appears he is following the laws and guidelines for this situation.

I think arguments are over mistaken understandings of the situation.

iccresourcebinder.pdf

[BigMama1]

@CurrentlyHorseless

Oh, I agree that the Krol hearing is for the judge to determine whether or not MB was a danger to self or others.

Judge Taylor determined that he was a danger. MB committed a violent act, nearly killing someone while delusional, and the defense experts testified that in their opinion he was still not free of delusional thinking

The judge is supposed to determine this based on the testimony of the experts at the hearing. Not based on his own gut feeling, or assumptions, or what anyone else said.

Whether or not he was still delusional isn’t relevant since the experts who said he was delusional also testified he did not pose a danger to himself or others.

You can keep claiming Taylor had the right to make up his own determination willy nilly and you keep being wrong, no matter how many times it is explained to you.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Knights_Mom

@CurrentlyHorseless

Who would this “someone” who is “warning” the judge be in your scenario? JK? A member of the Jewish NJ Mafia?

I think such a scenario is utter fantasy, which goes nicely with other fantasies such as MB acted in self defense when he shot LK.

Jewish NJ Mafia? Now why on earth would you suggest that?

As for the rest, since you believe all sorts of weirdness, what you happen to believe is of little concern to me.

But do know that the upcoming jury is going to believe as I do about the shooting.

You told me to “consider” that “someone” contacted the judge and “warned” him that things would go better for him if Barisone was not released following the Krol hearing.

Who did you have in mind as the “someone” who would do this, ie threaten a judge?

[roseymare]

The ultimate pizza is Papa Del’s in Champaign IL.

[Knights_Mom]

@KurPlexed

Can you imagine laying in bed at night and being forced to realize that you drove someone (someone who had their shit together, someone who could handle a 1500lb wild animal) to the brink of insanity? Caused them so much fear that they felt they had to arm themself (maybe/maybe not) on their own property to protect themself from you? Caused them to (maybe/ maybe not) to shoot you to make it all stop?

How would it make you feel about yourself, when you’re alone with your own thoughts? These are the things I wonder.

And for the record I’m well aware of how HH and CH feel, so no need to chime in with that again. The whole he had money/marital/depression (who doesn’t?) problems.

I can only guess as to what LK felt.

But I can say with absolute certainty that for the garden variety malignant narcissist (for instance) the ability to so profoundly alter the course of someone’s life for daring to not bend to the narcissists will, to make them suffer and be able to degrade them publicly feels GREAT.

The malignant narcissist would feel powerful. They would feel smarter than everyone else that they got away with it. And in watching allies perform as both their minions and private army they would feel totally in control. Omnipotent. In fact the more people spinning their wheels, the better.

I could tell you why if you want, having studied this kind of being.