MB Civil Trial: JK/KK Contempt of Court?

[Sdel]

@DownYonder

@trubandloki

The way I have always understood it, sweepers only pick up transmitters, not straight recorders and I think Lauren Kanarek had straight recorders all over the place.

Good point. But since “straight recorders” don’t transmit a signal, she would have had to manually/physically retrieve the recordings.

And as already noted, that would make people sleeping in the barn problematic……

It might also explain a few 911 calls and other harassing activities in the barn.

[LilRanger]

@CurrentlyHorseless

I assume their job is to get their points in, and you’ve only gone “too low” if judge gets offended.

There are many roads to Rome, I’ll bet you a like that Nagel gets to the town of Offended Judgeville faster than Denninger does.

[DownYonder]

@FitzE

Excellent point that Nagel’s approach was a HUGE tactical error.

I hope he is working on pure contingency b/c they are certainly getting what they paid for then

[DownYonder]

@eggbutt

Yes, it was the Mark guy along with the hay man. The Mark guy lived in the little trailer on the property as I recall.

Yes - Mark was the young horse specialist at HH. I apologize that I can’t remember his last name - I want to say “Mears” but I’m not sure that is correct.

[erinmeri]

Is 43 too old to go to law school? I would like to specialize in only taking bat guano civil cases. And ideally, intern for Denninger. Lol.

[FitzE]

Was it not Mr McGrain?

[LilRanger]

@CurrentlyHorseless

So Barisone or SGF could add him as a defendant even though only LK is the plaintiff?

That will depend, but I’ve seen it happen before. Of course this may not be possible in NJ, where I do not practice.

[LilRanger]

Not at all. I had four people over 60 in my graduating class.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@trubandloki

@CurrentlyHorseless

They’re both getting their points in.

I’m just not convinced that Deininger needed a door opened for him choose a nice crude photo of LK to make his point.

I’m not criticizing either lawyer. I assume their job is to get their points in, and you’ve only gone “too low” if judge gets offended.

How is a photo too crude to include in the case but not too crude to put on social media for anyone to see?
Even more so when Lauren specifically told the defense to go to her social media and look for stuff?

On the specific issue of her being requested to provide all her posts on COTH, she responded that she was not in possession of physical copies, the request was too burdensome, and to the extent they existed, they were available on line. That’s what she said about COTH.

Where did she generically say the defense should scour all her social media?

[erinmeri]

@LilRanger

That will depend, but I’ve seen it happen before. Of course this may not be possible in NJ, where I do not practice.

Apologies for this run on sentence: I would imagine that if someone filed suit and says “you injured me” and the defendant/respondent filed a counter claim and says “no, you injured me and contributed to your own injuries”, that if it came to light there was a conspiracy of some sort involving the plaintiff, then the additional parties could be added to the counter suit?? No?

[DownYonder]

@LilRanger

Nagel was the one who’s started the slinging without offering anything to support his claims.

Denninger then walked through that door, saying, “yeah, look at how sick she is! She’s so feeble she can only lift one finger!”

Both are doing it, yeah? But only one is doing it well.

[Ambitious_Kate]

It really is too bad that they had to choose that particular photo with the fingers to use to prove that she was participating in indoor activities with ablomb, but I can understand why they were reluctantly forced too. Those were the photos she used when she described herself what she was up to, the partying and so forth. I’m sure Deinginger wished he could have used a less crude photo to illustrate Lauren’s partying that night, but sadly, scouring her social media as she suggested they do, this was how Lauren chose to portray herself when describing specifically where she was partying that weekend/whatever nights. Oh, dear.

Oh, well. That’s Lauren for ya!

[trubandloki]

@CurrentlyHorseless

On the specific issue of her being requested to provide all her posts on COTH, she responded that she was not in possession of physical copies, the request was too burdensome, and to the extent they existed, they were available on line. That’s what she said about COTH.

Where did she generically say the defense should scour all her social media?

This has been answered here already. I know @ekat provided this information to @hut-ho78 earlier in the thread.

[BigMama1]

@CurrentlyHorseless

zoom is cheaper, more efficient, and minimizes Covid risk.

You keep stating that Zoom is more efficient, yet all the people here with actual knowledge of the law and how depositions work say that is not the case - that remote depositions are much more difficult to conduct efficiently and effectively. So why keep pushing this false narrative?

And since Covid risks didn’t seem to be a concern for LK during the criminal trial, and doesn’t seem to impede her from living her life as normal, it’s rather a leap to suggest it’s a major factor now, particularly in a suit that she brought herself.

[DownYonder]

@FitzE

Was it not Mr McGrain?

You might be right. Not sure where I got “Mears” from.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@LilRanger

@CurrentlyHorseless

I assume their job is to get their points in, and you’ve only gone “too low” if judge gets offended.

There are many roads to Rome, I’ll bet you a like that Nagel gets to the town of Offended Judgeville faster than Denninger does.

That’s fair. I’m just saying it’s a game I’d expect lawyers on both sides to be playing.

Shocker alert— I was more put off by the Deininger’s choice of the middle finger post than by Nagel’s description of the verdict in the criminal trial. But I’m not the judge.

[trubandloki]

@CurrentlyHorseless

That’s fair. I’m just saying it’s a game I’d expect lawyers on both sides to be playing.

Shocker alert— I was more put off by the Deininger’s choice of the middle finger post than by Nagel’s description of the verdict in the criminal trial. But I’m not the judge.

You are not shocked that Lauren Kanarek chose to share that photo on social media herself, just that a lawyer chose to use it to represent an example of her?

[eggbutt]

Let it go. It isn’t important. Seriously.

[hut-ho78]

@trubandloki

@CurrentlyHorseless

On the specific issue of her being requested to provide all her posts on COTH, she responded that she was not in possession of physical copies, the request was too burdensome, and to the extent they existed, they were available on line. That’s what she said about COTH.

Where did she generically say the defense should scour all her social media?

This has been answered here already. I know @ekat provided this information to @hut-ho78 earlier in the thread.

She did? I didn’t ask for it? Don’t remember it?

I asked if the interrogatories were posted and she said yes.

[erinmeri]

Let me get this right… a lawyer is supposed to ignore a suite of photos that demonstrate the plaintiff to be engaging in behavior that undermines a filing her attorney made because said plaintiff’s use of an obscene gesture is offensive and reflects badly on him?? And it is so gauche that it is somehow worse than the plaintiff’s council misrepresenting facts and not following the rules? Hm. I gotta chew on that one.