@DownYonder, there is this lovely facepalm emoji.
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Random sidebar…
I tend to proof my work by reading everything backwards which is so tedious but works pretty well.
Ok…back to lurking and thoroughly enjoying the legal insight our kind legal professionals are sharing with us. And the overall discussion. 
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So this is an interesting tidbit I found regarding Nagel:
I believe this would have been something that happened in 2016. It says:
The Disciplinary Review Board found Bruce guilty of the following misconduct:
-Failed to obey obligations under rules of tribunal
-Engaged in conduct prejudicial to the administration of justice
-Misconduct involved multiple violations
-Engaged in outrageous conduct during a jury trial
Anyone have an idea what the above means or what one would have to do in those instances?
The Nagel/LK relationship is maybe starting to make more sense.
Oh, and @EADoug, thanks for sharing your experience. I thought what you said regarding ego contributing to delusion was very insightful and it makes so much sense.
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A High School English teacher told us this method, and I have never forgotten it. It does work well, because working backwards, your brain can’t default to what it thought you were supposed to have written. (Like some of those puzzles using nonsense words, but because of the placement of certain letters, you can decipher what the sentence is supposed to say.)
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Yes, and I think in many cases, it’s also the fact that these egos developed in an echo chamber. In my ex’s case, he was the first born son in an Ethiopian family. He could do no wrong. He brought status to the family. His well educated and wealthy family propped him up and fed his ego. I think we can all see that when family members are told a story by a loved one (true, stretched, outlandish), they WANT to believe the loved one. They want to support… and this leads to inflated ego and a distorted reality. They really aren’t living in the same reality the rest of us are if their entire circle is feeding their sense of self-worth and importance.
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I wonder if Nagel knew these deadlines had come and gone and neglected to file motions. I wonder if he audaciously encouraged (perhaps by agreeing with) the Ks to ignore these requests: “let them find the documents themselves”. I frankly can’t feature what he was thinking by letting this all happen.
Question: in the end does it matter? He made the defence mad, they’ll get their discovery anyway, but not before they had to work double time for it? I mean, did this really hurt LK, beyond making her look squirrely? Which she is anyway? Or is tit all part of the prosecution’s disdain for the defence ? Why?
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I think the defence can outlast the “offense” and take their case apart piece by piece no matter how hard they try to hide the pieces. I think the defense probably has all the pieces anyway.
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Last question, can the prosecution be compelled to sit for depositions?
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Bruce is not the lawyer of record for Jonathan Kanarek or Kirby Kanarek and Jonathan is a lawyer himself so was it even his (Bruce’s) job to make sure that Jonathan and Kirby met their deadline?
I can totally see everyone on that side saying “let them find the documents themselves”. That is 100% the type of people they all seem to be. Heck with the rules, heck with the laws, heck with the fact that they filed this case.
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So how are jk and kk to be compelled?
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Hopefully our amazing legal posters can enlighten us to this.
I think contempt is the only power that the courts have here. Or, I guess, tossing out the whole case.
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Did JK write that response and give it to Nagel to present? It sounds like a K wrote it.
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Having read things that I assume were written by Jonathan Kanarek, I think he writes a little better than that. That reads more like something Lauren would write to me.
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Doesn’t it?
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So, with all this speculation about how LK ended up being represented by this particular attorney, it has occurred to me to wonder how MB found his wonderful attorneys. Does anyone know? Forgive me if this has already been covered. I have tried to keep up but haven’t read all the posts on all the threads, and may have forgotten others.
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Probably sane, careful research. And the money to make it real. My guess. Others may know.
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@Long_Time_Lurker, I totally love your screen name.
(I have no idea what the answer to your question is.)
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Originally both Jonathan and Kirby were given the choice to either produce the requested docs or sit for a deposition. The court can now order them to do either, based on Mr Silver and Mr Deininger’s motions. If they fail to obey the court order, they can be fined (more likely) or eventually arrest warrants can issue (less likely). Screw around long enough and anger the judge, Lauren’s suit could be dismissed.
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Mr. Silver did say it perfectly.
That does not change the fact that the whole Kanarek family appears to think that is not the case.
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