MB Civil Trial: JK/KK Contempt of Court?

[Jenerationx]

What does that have to do with LK at all? She wasn’t an employee, or a party to the conversations she recorded.

@trubandloki

I think you made a good point @BrownDerby, everyone lived contentedly in that house, divided however it was divided, shared however it was shared until Lauren Kanarek got jealous and decided to Finish the Bastard.

Yes, excellent point.

@CurrentlyHorseless

He did not have the right to rip out the smoke alarms in a living unit he had agreed to rent to others. As a landlord he is obligated to maintain its habitability.

Who said that he did? Oh right, the one who lies.

[ekat]

@trubandloki

Old judge end of 2 year term, what happens if the case is not over yet?

This is a very good question. I mean, if they are in trial, or super close to trial at that point, I imagine he’d see it through. However, if, two years from now, if the Plaintiff(Lauren Kanarek) is still screwing around with discovery AND the judge hasn’t dismissed the case, I’m guessing he is going to ride off into the sunset while someone else gets assigned this mess.

I could be super wrong though.

[Knights_Mom]

@ekat but what of the mandatory 70 year old retirement provision?

[ekat]

@Knights_Mom

but what of the mandatory 70 year old retirement provision?

He already did that once and they called him back. That’s why I have no clue.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Knights_Mom

@CurrentlyHorseless

He did not have the right to rip out the smoke alarms in a living unit he had agreed to rent to others. As a landlord he is obligated to maintain its habitability.

I doubt you have the proof that he did. He wasn’t even IN the house. The squatters were. Maybe they took it out. Then filed a report.

Squatters? MB was lying when he referred to them as squatters on a 911 call.

Why would the legal tenants render their own living unit uninhabitable?

[trubandloki]

Finish the Bastard!

I have heard that some tenants actually write the fire marshal about where they are living and end up being kicked out when the fire inspector shows up and finds things they do not like, all the while the tenants knew about all those issues.

So…

Some people who proclaim Finish the Bastard are not playing with a full deck. Their desire to ruin someone else forgets about their own needs.

[Knights_Mom]

@CurrentlyHorseless

Why would the legal tenants render their own living unit uninhabitable?

For the same reason she would dress like a veiled ninja and go traipsing through the property barefoot in the wee hours of the morning?

BTW if you had my experience in landlord tenant court you would know tenants do this ALL THE TIME.

It’s a thing. I provide proof. It’s so common it’s an internet resource.

How to Handle Angry Tenants Who Damage Your Property on Purpose

[trubandloki]

Civil case…
Hello…
This thread is about the civil case.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

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@Ambitious_Kate

@Knights_Mom

@CurrentlyHorseless

Sorry, he wasn’t trying to get his buildings in general condemned, but according to LK ripped out the smoke detectors in the LK apartment, possibly yo get them kicked out.
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Lies.

That’s rediculous. The house was already condemed. It was torn apart from the floods. Nobody should have been living in it. It was his house anyway. If he wanted to rip out the electrical, he had every right to. They weren’t supposed to be in it. What a bunch of usery grifters, staying there when MB wanted them out. The nerve.

I am not sure when they were supposedly “ripped out” but if MB did in fact do that, is it possible he was looking for hidden recorders? Smoke detectors are a prime place to plant electronic bugs.

Why would MB be concerned if LK was bugging her own apartment? Why would LK bug her own apartment?

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@DownYonder

@jvanrens

@CurrentlyHorseless

Sorry, he wasn’t trying to get his buildings in general condemned, but according to LK ripped out the smoke detectors in the LK apartment, possibly to get them kicked out.

You seem to forget that MB didn’t call out the inspectors, LK did. A long letter that she had delivered.

The big fallacy in CH’s argument is this:

According to LK…

Um, no, acknowledging that the statement is based on information from a particular source is not a logical fallacy.

[trubandloki]

Lauren Kanarek lies. Lauren Kanarek has admitted under oath that she lies.

[Knights_Mom]

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@DownYonder

@Ambitious_Kate

@Knights_Mom

@CurrentlyHorseless

Sorry, he wasn’t trying to get his buildings in general condemned, but according to LK ripped out the smoke detectors in the LK apartment, possibly yo get them kicked out.
[/quote]

Lies.

That’s rediculous. The house was already condemed. It was torn apart from the floods. Nobody should have been living in it. It was his house anyway. If he wanted to rip out the electrical, he had every right to. They weren’t supposed to be in it. What a bunch of usery grifters, staying there when MB wanted them out. The nerve.

I am not sure when they were supposedly “ripped out” but if MB did in fact do that, is it possible he was looking for hidden recorders? Smoke detectors are a prime place to plant electronic bugs.

Why would MB be concerned if LK was bugging her own apartment? Why would LK bug her own apartment?

His rightful concern initially would be the removal of smoke detectors from his home and property in which he had a substantial financial investment as well as the health and safety of his loved ones.

[jvanrens]

You forget yet again that MB & MHG were also living in the house on another floor, not too long before. When they couldn’t take it anymore, they moved to the stable. Possibly some of the conversations they saw repeated on LK’s facebook were had in the house. Smoke detectors should be functioning on all floors, at least in the area that I live in.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Jenerationx

What does that have to do with LK at all? She wasn’t an employee, or a party to the conversations she recorded.

@trubandloki

I think you made a good point @BrownDerby, everyone lived contentedly in that house, divided however it was divided, shared however it was shared until Lauren Kanarek got jealous and decided to Finish the Bastard.

Yes, excellent point.

@CurrentlyHorseless

He did not have the right to rip out the smoke alarms in a living unit he had agreed to rent to others. As a landlord he is obligated to maintain its habitability.

Who said that he did? Oh right, the one who lies.

It was @Ambitious_Kate who said MB “had every right to” rip out the “electrical” right in the post of hers that I was responding to. Click on the quote of mine in your post to expand it and and you’ll see it.

Did you mean to accuse @Ambitious_Kate of lying?

[CurrentlyHorseless]

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@CurrentlyHorseless

@DownYonder

@Ambitious_Kate

@Knights_Mom

@CurrentlyHorseless

Sorry, he wasn’t trying to get his buildings in general condemned, but according to LK ripped out the smoke detectors in the LK apartment, possibly yo get them kicked out.
[/quote]

Lies.

That’s rediculous. The house was already condemed. It was torn apart from the floods. Nobody should have been living in it. It was his house anyway. If he wanted to rip out the electrical, he had every right to. They weren’t supposed to be in it. What a bunch of usery grifters, staying there when MB wanted them out. The nerve.

I am not sure when they were supposedly “ripped out” but if MB did in fact do that, is it possible he was looking for hidden recorders? Smoke detectors are a prime place to plant electronic bugs.

Why would MB be concerned if LK was bugging her own apartment? Why would LK bug her own apartment?

His rightful concern initially would be the removal of smoke detectors from his home and property in which he had a substantial financial investment as well as the health and safety of his loved ones.

As you pointed out, I wasn’t there.

As you know, LK can be the legal tenant while MB or SGF is the landlord and property owner.

The apartment was their residence, despite being owned by someone other than them.

I fail to see why they would rip out smoke detectors to render their own apartment uninhabitable, or create work for RG to restore them. I can imagine MB ripping them out in a fit of anger.

[erinmeri]

Why are we on the topic of tenancy and ripping out smoke detectors when it is not germane to the current civil court filings? My god, we are going in loops.

[ekat]

@trubandloki

Civil case…
Hello…
This thread is about the civil case.

Well, maybe when Jonathan and Kirby Kanarek are trying to convince the court they should not be held in contempt, smoke alarms will matter.

[erinmeri]

@ekat

Well, maybe when Jonathan and Kirby Kanarek are trying to convince the court they should not be held in contempt, smoke alarms will matter.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@jvanrens

You forget yet again that MB & MHG were also living in the house on another floor, not too long before. When they couldn’t take it anymore, they moved to the stable. Possibly some of the conversations they saw repeated on LK’s facebook were had in the house. Smoke detectors should be functioning on all floors, at least in the area that I live in.

That’s a good point; it’s usually a whole house system. I’m
not clear on the timing of the ripping out of the smoke detectors relative to the bug sweep MB had done.

[Jealoushe]

lol as if any of these threads ever stay on topic and don’t turn into the biggest battle of tit for tat ever!