MB Civil Trial: JK/KK Contempt of Court?

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@erinmeri

The mental gymnastics on display here are astonishing and giving me a headache. Why isn’t the ignore feature working? Is it because I manually overrode it too many times? My word…

It strikes me as very odd that the ignore feature works for some people and not others.

The ignore feature works flawlessly for me.

[Sdel]

Because the current topic of contempt and compel lack the cover for righteous indignation of “victimhood”?

[StB.YM]

@CurrentlyHorseless

I fail to see why they would rip out smoke detectors to render their own apartment uninhabitable, or create work for RG to restore them. I can imagine MB ripping them out in a fit of anger.

I fail to see why they wouldn’t leave if they were “afraid” or worried for their horses. A lot of their actions didn’t and still don’t make sense.

[smoofox]

The issue is just that some posters will constantly recycle pet “issues” that have been discussed and dissected ad nauseum.… like RG’s “work” on the house, the assertions that MB never asked them to leave or needed LK 's $$$$$ to keep afloat or that MHG was behind it all or the endless NGRI protestations and accusations…

As opposed to discussing newer items like the upcoming civil trial and how LK’s gymnastics on FB may affect that, how the recent information about JK and KK will impact things and so on and so forth.

Yes, threads go off topic. But the constant rehashing, chewing the cud - pick a term you (g) prefer - simply bogs things down and turns into the tit for tat nonsense that some seem to relish.

ETA: it is extremely sad that LK posts on FB under RG’s name and somehow thinks no one will figure her “out” with her “random” use of CAPS and “quotes” as well as her usual INSULTS and sneers… and then maybe realizing that was a bad idea, changed the FB account’s name from Robert Guy Goodwin to Jim E Stark as if that fixes everything… will stunts like that affect the civil trial?

[Knights_Mom]

@CurrentlyHorseless

It was @Ambitious_Kate who said MB “had every right to” rip out the “electrical” right in the post of hers that I was responding to. Click on the quote of mine in your post to expand it and and you’ll see it.

Did you mean to accuse @Ambitious_Kate of lying?

Saying MB had every right didn’t mean that HE DID. Words matter.

Additionally I just called my old court and spoke to judge’s chambers/clerk and got updated as to a bunch of new laws. However as this mess happened in 2019 that’s irrelevant. But what IS relevant is that I was correct. MB having people/guests stay with him does not convert the status of the property.

So just like putting in a bedroom in a finished basement for Nanna doesn’t make it a rental property, neither did this. There was no lease.

So as the property was a private home and not a rental property then the rules for rental property do not apply.

That being said, an occupant being in that home for 30+ days does establish rights regarding removal of that person from the home, but the home maintains its private dwelling status. I imagine NJ to be similar in this regard to my state.

And oh yes, a homeowner can do various repairs in their home. In MBs home.

So back on track now that this topic has been put to bed.

[erinmeri]

@CurrentlyHorseless

It strikes me as very odd that the ignore feature works for some people and not others.

The ignore feature works flawlessly for me.

How very strange, because this reply wasn’t hidden for me.

[HoolieB]

When that happens to me I just hit refresh and the ignored users are again ignored.

Disclaimer: I am not a Moderator, tech forum specialist or even a Holiday Inn Express customer.

Disclaimer 2: by saying “hit” above, I do not condone violence against devices.

[Sdel]

@smoofox

Yes, threads go off topic. But the constant rehashing, chewing the cud - pick a term you (g) prefer - simply bogs things down and turns into the tit for tat nonsense that some seem to relish.

Or seemingly only being brought back up as some need to “win” the argument.

[erinmeri]

@HoolieB

When that happens to me I just hit refresh and the ignored users are again ignored.

Disclaimer: I am not a Moderator, tech forum specialist or even a Holiday Inn Express customer.

Disclaimer 2: by saying “hit” above, I do not condone violence against devices.

Thanks! Giving it a shot!

ETA: seems to have worked, for now. I shall try to refrain from expanding hidden posts moving forward!

[KurPlexed]

@CurrentlyHorseless

I can imagine MB ripping them out in a fit of anger.

You mean LK. Right?

[Jealoushe]

yes I was only making a joke…both sides are guilty of getting into pointless arguments for hundreds of posts in these threads. It’s too bad really because there is a lot of good discussion to be had.

[Sdel]

@smoofox

ETA: it is extremely sad that LK posts on FB under RG’s name and somehow thinks no one will figure her “out” with her “random” use of CAPS and “quotes” as well as her usual INSULTS and sneers… and then maybe realizing that was a bad idea, changed the FB account’s name from Robert Guy Goodwin to Jim E Stark as if that fixes everything … will stunts like that affect the civil trial?

You know, there have been multiple accusations that she creates alters….the willingness to change the name of RG’s Facebook account, presumably to make it look like a random individual, really does nothing more than add credibility to the accusations and does nothing but further call into question the credibility of “anyone” publicly supporting her…

[Knights_Mom]

@Sdel

You know, there have been multiple accusations that she creates alters….the willingness to change the name of RG’s Facebook account, presumably to make it look like a random individual, really does nothing more than add credibility to the accusations and does nothing but further call into question the credibility of “anyone” publicly supporting her…

Oh for sure it’s proof positive of wanton use of alters. I imagine that includes here as well.

[Angela_Freda]

@DownYonder

@BrownDerby

Yes, MHG testified at the trial that the farmhouse had been converted into three separate living quarters.

Thanks, I had forgotten she mentioned that during the trial. There is still a question as to whether that had been officially permitted, although that particular aspect probably doesn’t have any real bearing on the litigation currently being considered.

If it hadn’t been, wouldn’t Shellehorn brought that up somehow, either in questioning MHG or the lady from the town who was apparently aware if the limits of the septic…??

[eggbutt]

There must be something to be filed today

There always is news when there is a concerted effort to close the thread. Posturing is obvious.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Sdel

Because the current topic of contempt and compel lack the cover for righteous indignation of “victimhood”?

The guts of what is discussed in a thread is often quite different from the title of the thread.

The most significant development discussed in this thread was the Krol hearing, which apparently will never be honored with mention in a COTH thread title.

Ekat decided to create a thread with “JK/KK Contempt of Court” in the title, while no one created a thread titled “MB involuntarily committed via Krol hearing”, despite the fact that the latter is a much more important development. Go figure.

Does there need to be a thread title explicitly referencing the outcome of the Krol hearing in order to acknowledge that, while MB was acquitted of attempted murder by reason of insanity, there is still a shooting victim in this case?

Here’s what I think about “the topic”, as specified by Ekat.

I believe the latest filings are requesting the judge find JK and KK in contempt and/or compel them to provide the information.

As they are not parties to the suit and are the parents of the shooting victim, I’d be surprised if the judge goes with the contempt option. But I am not a lawyer, as always.

The judge will or won’t compel their dispositions.
The judge will or won’t compel LK to be deposed in person.

I find it hard to get worked up about either of those routine legal issues.

If nothing new has been filed, there aren’t even any documents to scour for typos, so what is there to say?

[Sdel]

@ekat

Could the judge decline to hear oral arguments and just issue a ruling?

[hut-ho78]

@Knights_Mom

@CurrentlyHorseless

Why would the legal tenants render their own living unit uninhabitable?

For the same reason she would dress like a veiled ninja and go traipsing through the property barefoot in the wee hours of the morning?

BTW if you had my experience in landlord tenant court you would know tenants do this ALL THE TIME.

It’s a thing. I provide proof. It’s so common it’s an internet resource.

https://rentprep.com/landlord-tips/handle-angry-tenants-damage-your-property/

Your link is for when tenants damage property. No evidence to that but it does include how the police interact with tenant disputes, documentation required for them to make an arrest or issue a citation.

The post I made with the link to tenant rights not only has the information on tenant repairs but also how to evict tenants for disorderly conducts.

So a notice to tenants ro cease disorderly conduct, then if it continues a 3 day notice to evict. If the tenant doesn’t leave then that goes to court for an eviction notice and then the police can evict.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@KurPlexed

@CurrentlyHorseless

I can imagine MB ripping them out in a fit of anger.

You mean LK. Right?

No. I meant what I wrote.

[Knights_Mom]

@CurrentlyHorseless

Ekat decided to create a thread with “JK/KK Contempt of Court” in the title, while no one created a thread titled “MB involuntarily committed via Krol hearing”, despite the fact that the latter is a much more important development. Go figure.

You could have started that thread yet you did not.