MB Civil Trial: JK/KK Contempt of Court?

2018

Of what profession is a mediator normally? Retired judge, lawyer or is it a profession unto itself?

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It would help if y’all would stop calling me up like Beetlejuice. I don’t have to respond though. I could scroll on by. I could keep talking about the trials instead. Good idea.
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Actually that would be a great idea

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I beg to differ. The testimony regarding the entire chain of custody of the gun provided by the prosecution I think was a very key part of the prosecution’s successfully making its case on all elements other than intent on the two counts regarding LK.

In the absence of a woman bleeding out from bullet wounds (bullets from that gun), perhaps his carrying the gun on private property is not illegal, but the two together was very incriminating. (of course, his shooting her did not end up being s crime, as the NGRI verdict means that he was not criminally responsible for his conduct, as Bilinkas stated on 48 Hours).

I agree self defense is a right. But this wasn’t that.

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Here’s NJ’s rule on it:

(3) Civil, General Equity, and Probate Action Roster Mediators. Mediator applicants to be on the roster for civil, general equity, and probate actions shall have: (A) at least a bachelor’s degree; (B) at least five years of professional experience in the field of their expertise in which they will mediate; © completed the required mediation training as defined in subparagraph (b)(5) within the last five years; and (D) except for retired or former New Jersey Supreme Court justices, retired Superior Court judges, retired Administrative Law judges, retired or former federal court judges, and retired judges from other states who presided over a court of general jurisdiction or appellate court, evidence of completed mediation or co-mediation of a minimum of two civil, general equity or probate cases within the last year. Applicants who had the required training over five years prior to their application to the roster must complete the six-hour family or civil supplemental mediation course as defined in subparagraph (b)(8) of this rule.

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Footage for the Netflix series or movie that she thinks will be made about her?

After which she will be strutting around and preening her feathers because she is - wow!, a movie star.v :roll_eyes:

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You are completely contradicting yourself.

Regarding bolded: the key element is that intent was never established. As you have said, carrying on private property is not illegal and therefore, not incriminating.

No one knows how the shooting happened. Therefore, self defense can not be ruled out. That is an assumption you are making, not fact.

MB was acquitted of all charges. He will be walking amongst the public in 6 months to a year. If there were anything incriminating about it, that would not be the case. AK and Greystone are not punitive.

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Considering MB’s condition when LE arrived, it very well could have been “that”.

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I’m not contradicting myself. In the sentence you bolded I specifically said the prosecution proved all elements of it case other than intent.

If the prosecution had not made its case on all elements other than intent, the jury would have acquitted with straight NG.

The prosecution made its case on all elements other than intent. At that point the verdict could be Guilty or NGRI. If the defense had not established his insanity, the verdict would have been Guilty. Since the defense did establish his insanity, the verdict was NGRI.

MB was acquitted as NG on two counts and NGRI on two counts. That’s the reason he is not walking amongst the public now.

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Although it is the competitor’s responsibility to keep track of their scores and requirements for various accolades, it is really pretty commonplace for amateurs to rely on their coach to do it. I know of quite a few amateurs who haven’t a clue about the requirements for medals or qualifying for Regionals, and totally expect the coach to keep track of everything. At several barns I boarded at or worked at, I made spreadsheets of every competitor’s scores and progress toward accolades so everyone could stay on track.

Even then, we had some confusion from time to time, including when a competitor asked the coach about “qualifying,” and the coach thought she meant for upcoming Regionals and told her she was qualified. Rider got PO’d later when she found out she wasn’t qualified for her Bronze because she still needed a Third Level score and bitched to everyone near and far about how the trainer had given her erroneous info. But at least she wasn’t vindictive enough to threaten a lawsuit (at least, that I know of).

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I agree that self defense was involved. RG had every right to subdue MB by force after MB shot LK and possibly fired the gun at RG.

Considering the scene and considering the fact that MB was later determined to be insane, I think RG successfully subduing MB probably saved LKs life, and may have saved the lives of others, including saving MB from possible suicide.

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There is no point in continuing to argue with them. They are unable or unwilling to acknowledge that the criminal trial was a sham with what was allowed to be entered into the record, one wholly designed to railroad the jury into a certain decision. Now that I think of it, maybe that is why certain people purposefully are being obtuse….they know how much of a sham it was.

Just ignore them and they can get their rude awakening again at the conclusion of the civil trial.

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That was a very generous thing for you to do and that is very nice of some coaches/barns to do. Particularly with juniors, or riders who are a bit more green and need a bit of guidance.

But it isn’t a rule that any of them need to follow. Ultimately every adult rider is responsible for themselves. LK liked to brag about what a bad b tch she was and I think I recall a few statements about following up or through on keeping up with her show record.

But I may be wrong. Plus if she did post anything like that on any thread it is likely that she removed or edited it (prior to it being archived). Closing a thread wasn’t sufficient. Archiving it is the only way to keep it from being changed.

Who does that indeed.

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That is one possible scenario. As 48 hours pointed out, what happened after MB arrived at the house is unclear. The police failed in their duty to properly investigate the crime scene leading to this ambiguity. You choose to believe LK’s story, but, for me, having dealt for 25 years with this type of personality, I have a very difficult time believing the word of a narcisisstic, self-admitted liar, drug addict. I could not in good conscience find MB guilty of anything. You have the police and their lack of proper investigation to blame for that.

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Since ignored posters comments show up in replies that are quoted, it would be hard to tell, unless you really want to spend that much energy memorizing who has who(m?) on ignore. Personally it’s too much like work to me.

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I have no idea who has who on ignore nor do I care, it was a joke. :smiley:

I wonder why the civil case against the police was so easily thrown aside? Seems like that one might be worth fighting.

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My question of the day is will LK play herself in her Netflix version of the story?

Will there be a huge brew haha if they hire a REAL actress to play the part of LK?

Why use an amateur when I am sure Amber Heard is available at a bargain price!

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Because the gov’t likes to protect itself from being called out on it’s corruption. If you read the briefs, the attorney from the police provided quite an extensive list of case law where it has been ruled that citizens do not have the right to expect the police to properly do their jobs.

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I’m picturing a Blair Witch Project type film. :crazy_face:

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