MB Civil Trial: JK/KK Contempt of Court?

A taste of your own medicine. (I’m getting better at this)

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Note the line above the highlight - the “Two Dead bodies” was hypothetical

Also, I don’t believe anything LK or RG said on the stand except that LK was shot. Their stories changed every time they told them. They couldn’t even keep the story straight between the two of them with 2.5 years to practice or even over two days of testimony.

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Tell me about it.
Geez.
I should follow your lead. Stupid me for reading their posts and think it would contain anything but more made up stuff stacked on top of the previous made-up stuff.

Edit to add - I get it now. CH is just reminding us that they too are of the mindset that it is OK for the police to gather only the evidence that supports their theory at the time and that it is OK for them to ignore everything else that might suggest or support that something else happened there. Got it.

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No, @KurPlexed, I don’t deliberately misrepresent what others post by taking a fragment of a sentence. You’ve taken two different fragments plucked from a single sentence of mine, just to drive home the point you’re doing it deliberately!

But thanks for continuing to bring up that sentence on the interpretation of the verdict so I get to hammer it in again and again.

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You do realize that you are permitted to carry a firearm on your own property. Even in NJ with their strict laws. Idk about using someone else’s gun but that’s a different charge anyway.

You don’t know that he “initiated a confrontation” there is no evidence of that. Only testimony from, well you know the rest.

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A sham? MB has a chance to rebuild his life with a legally clean slate and get treatment. LK is protected from the shooter while he gets treatment.

The results couldn’t be better for either of them once her shot her. That act blew up their worlds.

If he has any money left after legal fees, he should have to pay her medical bills. How much may be mitigated by whatever the jury thinks may be mitigation.

If he was immediately released, deemed sane? That may not have looked so well to the civil jury. They may have thought he got away with attempted murder. Now, any additional stress brought on by a difficult client (something MB said all equine professionals had to deal with) by all the stressors in his life (divorce, large payout, cash flow issues, loss of business and barn manager, new love, 8-9 concussions, chronic depressive state) may be used to mitigate, offset her medical bills, pain, emotional stress, etc.

It’s still the best possible scenario after he shot her.

I’m starting to think that y’all’s complaints about some of the phrases I used and your inability to accept the reality of him shooting her is that whatever past life experiences leave some of y’all unable to process the truly violent harm and damage of a shooting.

… and most disputes die and no one shoots! < If only that had actually happened!

My BO (and boss) does not care about having the actual ribbons once they have been won and the pictures are taken - but ME??? Those are my “kids” - I foaled them out, I worried over them, worked with them, loved on them and dammit - I WANT that big grand championship ribbon - or even the pink 6th place one. I have often repurposed them for my therapeutic riding students by trimming off the name of the show and used glitter pens to add their name. Alas, the cupboard that held all the Championship ribbons for many years is now empty - I have worked through the entire stash. I still have a few big, gaudy, long futurity ribbons from the national show this past year - and I know one little rider who will squeal with delight about the pink one…

Back on topic - I am not sure how anyone can wholeheartedly believe what LK and RG said on the stand during the criminal trial. They stumbled, contradicted themselves and each other and completely blew their own case out of the water - all on their own.

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So very true! I guess it is OK to ignore all that if you are some people.

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Getting better at blowing smoke?

I do not deliberately misrepresent what others say in order to pathetically try to score points.. Unlike you, @KurPlexed, I don’t need to.

No matter, you don’t have to be adept at anything for the mob to “like” your pathetic misrepresentations and your attacks on me.

The more intelligent among them will know exactly what you’re doing, even as they push the “like” button.

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Plus - were they not both impeached? Or did I imagine that…

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You did not imagine that. Not at all. They were both for sure impeached on the stand. It was proven that they were not telling truths on the stand.

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Not even a little.

Remember in Day two of LK’s testimony where she contradicted day one’s testimony and Mr Bilinkas asked her, “you don’t remember yesterday?”

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Yes, I am aware a person is permitted to carry a firearm on their own property, even in NJ, @KurPlexed.

It becomes problematical when you shoot someone with the gun.

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Thanks. Even more reason not to believe their testimonies.

And FTR, I did not say that to “score points” and I am not looking for “likes”…

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Their job is to save lives, catch criminals, and gather evidence. They did so in such a manner as to have the best outcome for everyone. Everyone lived. MB will not have a criminal record, he will get treatment as he works the levels which could be a fairly quick process, or not, depending on him, and LK is protected until his treatment shows effective. They can both rebuild their lives.

Once he shot her, both their worlds were destroyed.

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Because gathering evidence to show what actually happened is not important. Got it. You have made it clear that in your opinion the truth is not important.

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“Score Points”? This is a game now? Score points with whom? The Kanareks? The invisible trolling public? The Illegal Elderly Mob?

Anyone know why Ignore stopped working within the past 30 minutes?

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So then you don’t believe their testimony given at the depositions? Aren’t depositions sworn stmts also? The depositions don’t match their on stand testimony.

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Okay, so all this debate over what actually happened because of the lack of forensic evidence is “the best outcome for everyone”? In what universe?

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Testimony
Officer Hensley placed the magazine in the “trunk” of Corporal Fellini’s car after he pulled it out of MB’s pocket.

Corporal Wurtenberg found the handgun where Corporal Heymer tossed it away from MB, cleared it, and placed it in the “back” of Corporal Fellini’s car next to the magazine.

I know you are going to check which I respect about you so testimony of Heymer and Wurtenberg are day 1. Testimony of Hensley is Day 5.

Detective Bailey on Day 1 and into Day 2 spoke of testing LK’s shirt with the IR camera. Our discussion earlier in the forum in the thread with a title similar to trial starting for MB later this week discussed testing on him, that just his hands were tested and no one else’s hands, but I haven’t found it in testimony. I also listened to Bill Stitt’s testimony but that seemed to just be on the weapons found.