MB Civil Trial: JK/KK Contempt of Court?

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@Wicky

Sigh.

Let’s talk science, which is proof.
Shell casings only prove that two bullets were fired, not by whom.
Bullet wounds only prove that LK was shot, not who shot her.,
Ear witness (someone who has not been shown to lie, and who has little reason to lie) supports that two shots were fired, and that LK claimed that MB shot her. No proof who shot her, or what the situation was when she was shot.
911 call demonstrates that LK claimed that MB shot her. No proof.
Proof exists that LK and RG have lied about the events on that day (and on other days).

No forensics that would demonstrate who shot whom. No tape turned over to the police.

My inner Spock says “fascinating.” But not scientifically proven.

A question - Why would MB have gone to the house with a gun, if as far as he knew, LK and RG where not there (per Fire Marshal)? Did anyone tell him that they were there? Did he think that Rosie was there - that LK and RG would have left her there?

MB told the police this is war. MB feared they would take the children. MB incredibly was unnerved by other trainer’s pasts catching up to them, the pasts SillyHorse explained “everyone knew, they just looked the other way.’ MB had the gun. MB retrieved the gun. MB drove to the house. Motive, means, opportunity.

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@eggbutt

Apparently, the desperate need to rinse and repeat repeatedly has warped into high gear today. These folks are gonna explode when the civil trials begin and they can’t argue about the criminal trial any longer. It is almost sad in a juvenile sort of way. Saying something hundreds of times over several threads does not make it fact. Are they just cutting and pasting old posts?

Kind of like you saying you are ignoring yet you never ever do.

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@SpicyPRE

This question is directed to the Legal Minds who graciously give of their knowledge and time -

@SpicyPRE

Over the weekend, I was pondering if there is a scenario where RG could get charged with Assault. What he did was NOT restrain or subdue.

No. He was using self defense.

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@eggbutt

@Jealoushe

@eggbutt

Seems forces are in effect preventing him from being moved - yet again . Obviously punitive IMO.

This is the second time I have read a post from you about this alluding to someone having power to delay his release. Do you have information on that or are you just guessing?

Gosh, coincidence is a powerful thing! Why did Schellhorn wait at least 10 days to sign Taylor’s order to move Micheal? Was he really busy, on vacation, playing monopoly, dragging his feet? It is sadly apparent the bitterness and bias Taylor and Schellhorn have shown over this case and the influence the Kanareks have attempted. It isn’t lost on me that hundreds of total strangers, unrelated to this tiny forum, have come to the same conclusion. Finish the Bastard seems to be alive and well in NJ IMO.

No bitterness. No bias. Just doing their jobs to keep the public safe.

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@Joanne

Mike Smith in the video says: “I am sure he remembers grabbing a gun, but he also, like his lawyer stated that he grabbed the gun because he was going to go confront. He didn’t grab it to go up there and kill them, but he was afraid that, if he went and confronted them, they would, he would be in danger for his life. So he was bringing it for his own protection. And since there had been physical altercations between him and the boyfriend before, that is a reasonable thing for a person to do.”

I don’t recall the physical altercations part.

Right. One would think the defense would have brought that up plus another reason to evict them in 3 days.

[cutter99]

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@Wicky

Sigh.

Let’s talk science, which is proof.
Shell casings only prove that two bullets were fired, not by whom.
Bullet wounds only prove that LK was shot, not who shot her.,
Ear witness (someone who has not been shown to lie, and who has little reason to lie) supports that two shots were fired, and that LK claimed that MB shot her. No proof who shot her, or what the situation was when she was shot.
911 call demonstrates that LK claimed that MB shot her. No proof.
Proof exists that LK and RG have lied about the events on that day (and on other days).

No forensics that would demonstrate who shot whom. No tape turned over to the police.

My inner Spock says “fascinating.” But not scientifically proven.

A question - Why would MB have gone to the house with a gun, if as far as he knew, LK and RG where not there (per Fire Marshal)? Did anyone tell him that they were there? Did he think that Rosie was there - that LK and RG would have left her there?

MB told the police this is war. MB feared they would take the children. MB incredibly was unnerved by other trainer’s pasts catching up to them, the pasts SillyHorse explained “everyone knew, they just looked the other way.’ MB had the gun. MB retrieved the gun. MB drove to the house. Motive, means, opportunity.

FINISH THE BASTARD!!!

So what does that mean???

Let’s steal the gun from the office safe, which by the way we had access to because you know we acknowledged that in court, and make it look like he came to murder us!!!

Is that what FINISH THE BASTARD mean???

Who actually saw that gun in Michael Barisone’s hands that day other than the claims of two well known admitted liar addicts???

Just name one person!!!

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@CurrentlyHorseless

@Omgitsme

My understanding was they wanted to plead self defense but entered NGRI. It seems odd you can enter more than one plead.

Both NGRI and NG by reason of self defense are affirmative defenses.

I agree it is unusual to enter both as pleas, but that is what he did.

It used to be that one could first plead NG by reason of self defense, and that when that failed, then subsequently plead NGRI, but it was changed and now one must plead both defenses simultaneously rather than consecutively if you want to plead both.

There was testimony NGRI also required NGSD.

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Is the Dynamic Deflection Duo still active?

Wanna see my tattoo?

[cutter99]

Alive and going at it strong. Ever wonder how long it takes some people to realize no one here is buying what they are selling!

No @eggbutt, I do not need to see your tattoo as it is the same as mine!

Remember, it is how we know we are members!

[eggbutt]

Hahaha! But we can have more than one! I have Michael’s portrait tattooed on my right thigh. It can easily be seen when wearing dressage whites! On my left leg I have a detailed shovel from my hip to my ankle. It looks so real I’ve been stopped several times to prove it isn’t a weapon.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

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@SpicyPRE

This question is directed to the Legal Minds who graciously give of their knowledge and time -

@SpicyPRE

Over the weekend, I was pondering if there is a scenario where RG could get charged with Assault. What he did was NOT restrain or subdue.

No. He was using self defense.

I think they’d prefer to hear from a real lawyer as to why RG wasn’t charged with assault and won’t be charged with assault.

The fact that he was acting in self defense seems super obvious to me, but IANAL.

[SpicyPRE]

I am up for a new tattoo. I had planned for a Picasso line drawing of a horse, however, might as well go for 2, while I am there…

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@eggbutt

Is the Dynamic Deflection Duo still active?

Wanna see my tattoo?

Yes, on seeing the tattoo.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@eggbutt

Hahaha! But we can have more than one! I have Michael’s portrait tattooed on my right thigh. It can easily be seen when wearing dressage whites! On my left leg I have a detailed shovel from my hip to my ankle. It looks so real I’ve been stopped several times to prove it isn’t a weapon.

I’d like to see a pic of the portrait of MB.

[BrownDerby]

If you do a search there are hundreds of beautiful squirrel tats out there.

[BigMama1]

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MB told the police this is war. MB feared they would take the children. MB incredibly was unnerved by other trainer’s pasts catching up to them, the pasts SillyHorse explained “everyone knew, they just looked the other way.’ MB had the gun. MB retrieved the gun. MB drove to the house. Motive, means, opportunity.

You were asked to provide PROOF. Again, none of that proves he shot anyone. There is also no proof that he took the gun from the safe. But you knew that already.

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[Warmblood1]

@eggbutt

Hahaha! But we can have more than one! I have Michael’s portrait tattooed on my right thigh. It can easily be seen when wearing dressage whites! On my left leg I have a detailed shovel from my hip to my ankle. It looks so real I’ve been stopped several times to prove it isn’t a weapon.

I’m envisioning a sleeve featuring Squire L, the cute bear, the fishies, the intense stare of the eagle, the turtles, perhaps a banner reading “Who does that?!” with some viscous crossed shovels underneath. So many possibilities here.

[trubandloki]

@eggbutt

This is actually quite adorable!

[Angela_Freda]

@hut-ho78

MB told the police this is war

Was he declaring it, or describing the war they were waging on him?