MB Civil Trial: JK/KK Contempt of Court?

[downen]

Here’s a possible scenario to explain that:

LK was fixated on working with an “Olympian,” MB. Hence was enraged when “downgraded” to MHG or JH for training.

After the shooting, IM with this dissertation, is attempting to steer the narrative towards MHG being charged somehow, so that in a weird alternate universe, MHG would go to jail and LK could go on working with MB on her dressage “career.” This narrative would also draw attention away from the fact (if they indeed had a video), that MB did not actually shoot Lauren. Why on earth would she work with him again if he shot her?

I know it’s ridiculous but at this point, nothing would shock me, and the constant drumbeat agains MHG is impossible to ignore or really make sense of.

Discuss.

[Omgitsme]

LK claims she records everything so it’s more likely she said she recorded it.

[Omgitsme]

She has an alleged cousin on FB that supports her.

[Knights_Mom]

@FitzE

@Warmblood1

It floors me, too. I can’t wrap my head around it. I would be flat out ashamed if I ever attempted to justify this crap.

There is a profound and repeatedly demonstrated lack of shame in this family, their hired help (Nagel & Co.) and their defenders.

Even if one wanted to take a stand against gun violence (an admirable goal), the very most that could be said by anyone of any decent character would be: No one deserves to be shot, but that is all I can support in this instance. The gun shot victim, her boyfriend, her family, and even their legal representatives have all behaved in such abhorrent ways that I cannot in good conscience say anything supportive beyond that initial statement. Any further support or explanation or excuse I might provide for these people would compromise my own personal integrity.

End.

Anyone will to go further than the above is telling us a lot about themselves, and none of it good.

Perfectly said!!

[ASB_Stars]

@CurrentlyHorseless

Your statement that there was proof that LK accused MB of child sexual abuse is a falsehood, a lie. Have you deleted it?

I bet they’ll delete all of their lies when you delete yours. Waiting.

[MHM]

@iridedressage

I work for DCS (not in NJ) and this happens more often than people would think. It takes a special kind of crazy to make a false report about child abuse.

Are there ever any legal consequences for it? It really seems like there should be.

[eggbutt]

Strange family relations, huh? Are they all related?

[Knights_Mom]

@MHM

@iridedressage

I work for DCS (not in NJ) and this happens more often than people would think. It takes a special kind of crazy to make a false report about child abuse.

Are there ever any legal consequences for it? It really seems like there should be.

NJ doesn’t have that. 29 other states carry criminal penalties for false neglect/abuse reports.

[iridedressage]

My state can but rarely does because of the cost and the time involved.

[Angela_Freda]

@Jealoushe

No, you don’t have to spout vile abuse at others online over something that doesn’t even involve them in real life to get your point across. Not necessary at all and I am surprised you would support that.

Everyone in this thread needs to try a little harder to discuss things without insulting each other.

Posters, I encourage you to read your posts over a few times before hitting reply. Is the extra snark at the end needed? Is it because you want to understand whats happening in the case or is it because you just hate that other poster so much for not agreeing with you?

You can still discuss things and be nice while doing it.

Who’s insulting anyone, and why are you directing this at BigMamas post?

@BigMama1

There is no way to know whether the gun in question was even in the safe at that time. It could have been removed by someone at any time since MB put it there for safekeeping. Perhaps removed by someone who boasted about having access to the office and making odd Facebook comments about a “missing gun?”

[eggbutt]

@downen

Here’s a possible scenario to explain that:

LK was fixated on working with an “Olympian,” MB. Hence was enraged when “downgraded” to MHG or JH for training.

After the shooting, IM with this dissertation, is attempting to steer the narrative towards MHG being charged somehow, so that in a weird alternate universe, MHG would go to jail and LK could go on working with MB on her dressage “career.” This narrative would also draw attention away from the fact (if they indeed had a video), that MB did not actually shoot Lauren. Why on earth would she work with him again if he shot her?

I know it’s ridiculous but at this point, nothing would shock me, and the constant drumbeat agains MHG is impossible to ignore or really make sense of.

Discuss.

There is no rational explanation for how this family behaves or treats others. They are not uber entitled. They are wannabes in every sense of the word in every aspect of their lives. Lauren, for whatever reason or whatever it is that she holds over her parents, has been enabled and encouraged all of her adult life. Sure there are rumors of unsavory and immoral behavior by several in the family…but that’s it…rumor. I find it strange that rumor surfaces with random, unconnected people ever so often with little deviation. Who cares if it isn’t illegal?

The few posters on this forum who twist themselves into pretzels to seem important, knowledgeable, and defend the Kanareks to the nth degree are pathetic in their naivete.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@ASB_Stars

@CurrentlyHorseless

Your statement that there was proof that LK accused MB of child sexual abuse is a falsehood, a lie. Have you deleted it?

I bet they’ll delete all of their lies when you delete yours. Waiting.

No. I am not a liar.

I may say something incorrect or misremembered, but I don’t lie.

[trubandloki]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@trubandloki

@Knights_Mom

It seems so but it is not something I do.

I am with you! I have no reason to. Clearly for some it is a sport.

Your statement that there was proof that LK accused MB of child sexual abuse is a falsehood, a lie. Have you deleted it?

I really do not want to debate with the movie in your head but unless you have some real facts you can not state it is a lie and I can state that the screen shot of the SS report filed by Lauren Kanarek (or someone on her behalf) that was part of the 48 hours episode and has been posted here more than once for you to see did say yes to that question. So you saying I am lying is incorrect.

[eggbutt]

She says we all lie if we don’t support her fantasy. Deflect, deny, discredit. It’s an age old tactic, but why are these two so invested. They say they are not acquainted with any party and know nothing but their coincidental posts speak otherwise.

Lauren needs to be banned from USEF for her weaponization of the Federation.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@trubandloki

@CurrentlyHorseless

@trubandloki

@Knights_Mom

It seems so but it is not something I do.

I am with you! I have no reason to. Clearly for some it is a sport.

Your statement that there was proof that LK accused MB of child sexual abuse is a falsehood, a lie. Have you deleted it?

I really do not want to debate with the movie in your head but unless you have some real facts you can not state it is a lie and I can state that the screen shot of the SS report filed by Lauren Kanarek (or someone on her behalf) that was part of the 48 hours episode and has been posted here more than once for you to see did say yes to that question. So you saying I am lying is incorrect.

I’ve explained this to you.

She answered “yes” to the question: does this report involve allegations or concerns of child abuse or child sexual abuse?

If she had an allegation or concern of verbal abuse of a minor, the correct answer is yes, even if she is not alleging child sexual abuse.

Therefore it is a falsehood for you to state that the document proves that she reported an allegation of child sexual abuse. You either stated a falsehood (lied) or committed a logical fallacy. However, continuing to make the statement after the logical fallacy has been pointed out to you pretty much leaves you with just lying.

Her answer “yes” on that document does not “prove” she reported MB for child sexual abuse.

[SillyHorse]

@Knights_Mom

Nevertheless LK seems to take pride in it given how she didn’t bat a caterpillar stating that on the stand that she lies on social media.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@eggbutt

She says we all lie if we don’t support her fantasy. Deflect, deny, discredit. It’s an age old tactic, but why are these two so invested. They say they are not acquainted with any party and know nothing but their coincidental posts speak otherwise.

Lauren needs to be banned from USEF for her weaponization of the Federation.

MHG and MB need to be banned from USEF for their attempted weaponization of the Federation. MB probably will be banned because he shot her the day after submitting the 750 document attempting to weaponize the process.

Coincidental posts? What is that?

[trubandloki]

Legal people - I have been assuming all along that basic beginner level law school is where people are taught the importance of responding to a subpoena. Is that a correct assumption?

I am really confused why a lawyer of any type, in this case Jonathan Kanarek/@Inigo-montoya, would find them self in a position where they just ignored a subpoena. Let alone a subpoena in the case someone in their own family filed.

How can anyone who is a lawyer of any type think this is the right way to treat the court system?

[erinmeri]

It seems like some here are like trash pandas. They come to the salacious or train wreck threads looking for trash to feed on. The arguments ensue, and they think they’ve found a fabulous source of addictive trash meals. Naturally, they come again looking for their next fix. It’s the same thing, day after day. But if you lock up your garbage, stop throwing it everywhere, or remove it from the vicinity… they stop coming. Please stop feeding the trash pandas. (Whether through the glitchy ignore feature or force of will… Or both!)

Any news from Morris County?

[ekat]

@trubandloki

Legal people - I have been assuming all along that basic beginner level law school is where people are taught the importance of responding to a subpoena. Is that a correct assumption?

I am really confused why a lawyer of any type, in this case Jonathan Kanarek/@Inigo-montoya, would find them in a position where they just ignored a subpoena. Let alone a subpoena in the case someone in their own family filed.

How can anyone who is a lawyer of any type think this is the right way to treat the court system?

Heck everyone from (gasp) clerks, to legal secretaries, to paralegals and attorneys are taught the importance of subpoenas and quite frankly, court deadlines, from the beginning.

It’s one of the things that has mystified me since the days the motions for contempt were filed - how an attorney (retired or not) could ignore a subpoena, and let his wife also ignore a subpoena?

I do not understand why Jonathan Kanarek would think it’s ok. I cut Kirby Kanarek a tiny, tiny bit of slack here because she may have just relied on her husband’s guidance. But it just makes absolutely zero sense. None.