MB Civil Trial: JK/KK Contempt of Court?

[SpicyPRE]

I simply do not understand your motivation.

[eggbutt]

It’s probably best to not even try to understand and scroll on by rather than engaging in any way.

[KurPlexed]

@SpicyPRE

I simply do not understand your motivation

If you look back on this thread it’s the same message “are you trying to get the thread shut down?”

My guess is HH would like to get the thread shut down. Why, I have no idea. How the thread effects HH is a mystery but apparently it must.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@eggbutt

@ekat

@hut-ho78

Even you? Doxxing? Seriously?

HUH? I am not doxxing anything or anyone. I’m trying to understand CH’s response. Eggbutt said:

@eggbutt

the Kanareks never thought they would be in this position.

CH responded with:

@CurrentlyHorseless

That’s not what I remember being expressed by IM.

I don’t understand how that is an appropriate response to what Eggbutt said, and was asking for clarification.

Sorry I didn’t make myself clear.

True, I mentioned Kanareks not IM. CH made an interesting leap, didn’t she?

IM said he spoke to insiders on both sides and would characterize his view of the Kanareks position on several occasions. For example, I think he pointed out that there was no reason the Kanareks would care whether MB was incarcerated in a state prison or held in a psychiatric facility, as long he he couldn’t hurt anyone.

You’re the one who keeps saying things like “the Kanareks thought it was a slam dunk that MB would be found guilty and sentenced to eighty years”.

How would you know that Eggbutt? Are you a bosom buddy of Kirby Kanarek? A confidante of JK? How do you know their beliefs? Do you even claim to talk with them, as IM did?

[lazaret]

I think it’s probably important to note that some people seem to believe that the claim of the plaintiff and the counterclaim by the defendant are two separately decided actions. Same goes for crossclaims among the triangle of involved parties here.

They are not separate actions. A counterclaim is, and must be, part of the response to the initial suit and can be tried at the same time.

Thus a very possible outcome is that BOTH parties have damages to the other party, or in this case, since there are multiple defendants and thus multiple counterclaimants, one party can be more responsible in totality to the other two parties than individually any of them are to the plaintiff, even if any one of them is found liable for something.

I have no doubt that the attorneys involved have explained this to their client(s).

[trubandloki]

@SillyHorse

@trubandloki

I am starting to feel like you are not actually reading what was posted.

You’re just now starting to feel that?

Clearly I am a slow learner.

No one took me up on the reading glasses loan either.

[Maria]

I think some need the Hubble telescope

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@eggbutt

Do we think Mr and Mrs Kanarek are risking contempt charges because they are ignorant of the law? Do they just not care? I can’t imagine their friend, Judge Taylor, would be pleased at their behavior (sarcasm).

I think Judge Taylor demonstrated his impartiality in the trial.

I think it’s disgusting to suggest that he would act in a way to favor one side out of supposed friendship with JK, even under the guise of sarcasm.

I doubt JK and KK will be found in contempt, but it’s their problem to navigate, not mine. (Or yours.)

[eggbutt]

Well, goodness gracious, ALL of these problems are for others to navigate, aren’t they? What a profound statement.

[trubandloki]

@CurrentlyHorseless

I doubt JK and LK will be found in contempt, but it’s their problem to navigate, not mine. (Or yours.)

You must have missed it when @ekat clarified this above. I wrote this wrong also.
Lauren Kanarek does not have a contempt charge pending yet. Her father Jonathan Kanarek and her mother Kirby Kanarek are the two people with pending contempt charges.
Lauren at this point is refusing to sit for her deposition.

Are you sure you do not want those loaner reading glasses?

[Sdel]

@ekat

@trubandloki

mean, why would they not serve him yet?

See, that’s what I’m thinking. Written discovery was supposed to be complete I think August 2nd. So if they wanted records from him, they would have requested prior to then. Which leads me to believe he gave them stuff. Unless they are just waiting to depose him.

Or he’s run away and is hiding and can’t be found….

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@trubandloki

@CurrentlyHorseless

I doubt JK and LK will be found in contempt, but it’s their problem to navigate, not mine. (Or yours.)

You must have missed it when @ekat clarified this above. I wrote this wrong also.
Lauren Kanarek does not have a contempt charge pending yet. Her father Jonathan Kanarek and her mother Kirby Kanarek are the two people with pending contempt charges.
Lauren at this point is refusing to sit for her deposition.

Are you sure you do not want those loaner reading glasses?

I meant KK not LK.

No thanks on the reading glasses.

[Sdel]

@ekat

@CurrentlyHorseless

That’s not what I remember being expressed by IM.

Is IM a Kanarek? Asking for clarification.

He keeps logging in around the same time as Seeker lately.

[trubandloki]

@CurrentlyHorseless

I meant KK not LK.

I am wearing my reading glasses so I could see that you typed LK…

Glad you understand that it is Kirby Kanarek who has pending contempt charges.
Do you have any theories on why Jonathan Kanarek, who is a lawyer would allow himself and his wife to end up with pending contempt charges when there were so many other options other than ignoring the subpoena requesting information in the lawsuit that their daughter, Lauren filed?

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Sdel

@ekat

@CurrentlyHorseless

That’s not what I remember being expressed by IM.

Is IM a Kanarek? Asking for clarification.

He keeps logging in around the same time as Seeker lately.

How many posters are you monitoring in terms of their login activities?

[trubandloki]

@CurrentlyHorseless

How many posters are you monitoring in terms of their login activities?

I do not even know how to do that… I think it is impressive that anyone does that.

[lazaret]

@trubandloki

Lauren at this point is refusing to sit for her deposition

Technically she is not refusing, she is refusing to appear in person, which would be a legitimate claim if she were not the plaintiff.

Since she is the source of the action, it’s probably not going to fly. When you bring suit it’s on you to show up, and the Court can technically force anyone to produce themselves for deposition.

While there is precedent for Zoom depositions, the more of a PITA you make yourself the less amused the Court is likely to be.

[trubandloki]

Thank you for clarifying @lazaret.

[erinmeri]

@Knights_Mom

But then we must wonder for whom do the numerous delays benefit? One answer comes to mind! It’s the Judge Taylor person and certainly the very black and bruised Prosecutor Schellhorny who probably can’t get over his slam dunk case went OJ in its findings. He probably can’t get past the definite likelihood that Barisone will walk out a free man.

So slimy tricks, “administrative delays” and other Bru ha ha abounds. The easiest check would be to check the court calendar and see if Judge Taylor and Schellhorn were in court adjudicating OTHER cases on the August court date.

I wonder if Google searches would come up with any other allegations of case postponing when it benefits grumpy State prosecutors to do so.

Does this really happen? I am a competitive person, but it is my observation that prosecutors kind of get what they get with regards to cases. He presented the best case he could given the situation at hand, the witnesses he had, and the lack of forensics (who knows which side forensics would have conferred and advantage to!). Isn’t it - to some degree - a “you win some, you lose some” situation when it comes to the DA’s office once the decision is made to prosecute? Maybe I am naive… but certainly they have less choice in the matter of which cases they take on and their odds of winning/losing than private defense attorneys (not talking public defenders).

[Sdel]

@lazaret

Since she is the source of the action, it’s probably not going to fly. When you bring suit it’s on you to show up, and the Court can technically force anyone to produce themselves for deposition.

Can MB’s counter stand by alone if LK refuses to comply and the court wants to dismiss her complaint? Or alternatively, if her complaint get’s dismissed, has the counter suit preserved the statue of limitations in order for Barisone to refile the case as plaintiff instead of defendant?