Perhaps we need a little refresher on what the elements of a Personal Injury lawsuit entails, as there seems to be some notions that certain things are already set in stone based on the completed Criminal trial.
I have a feeling some are forgetting that the Plaintiff is going to have to prove #3 and that Plaintiff can’t just say - we already did that in the criminal trial. (If you believe the criminal trial did in fact prove that.)
I must have missed all this Barisone support mixed in with the devout defense of the flat-liner.
I edited my post, but I’ll elaborate: Option 1 was, instead of surreptitiously recording stuff in early July, taunting Michael and MHG on SM, as early as April, sneaking around all ninja fashion, etc…Option 1 was to realize this situation was untenable, and pack up and go without having to have a lawyer and your Dad negotiating you leaving.
Cell phone as a weapon by someone bleeding out what 5’2” and what weight 105# maybe? Well under 6ft maybe 5’6” or 5’8” guy that some claim to have not made it through Marine Corps basic training but now he is a fully trained equivalent of a SEAL up against an Olympic caliber athlete of 6’4”?
RG stopped an active shooter. He is a hero in that moment. He deserves credit for that. Without RG’s actions, there could have been bodies on the ground there and also back at the barn. Was there anyone at the barn capable of stopping him? They didn’t stop him when he left to drive to the house!
You constantly make excuses for LK (“elevating” her while not helping her) - for any and all bad behaviour beyond yielding to the notion that she should have gotten out of the situation she created. You love to repeat endlessly that she flat-lined twice… as if it magically excuses any past, present and future bad behavior. You disparage the experiences of others. And then fret about “alternate facts” and the way others post…
Civility still works both ways. You get back what you put in. Garbage in, garbage out… whatever metaphor works. I shall try harder on my end.
ETA: reverted to my old Canadian spelling for CH’s amusement and speculation… off to the barn.
Just reminding that there was ZERO right for LK to keep her horses there and not relocate them when told even by MHG that she had to leave.
The civil jury of property owners will be thinking that over and over again. Guaranteed in this county in NJ there will be many property and business owners on the jury. A county where the majority of residents are older property owners with a median income of well over $100,00.
The civil jury of property owners may have on it other landlords who have dealt with bad tenants.
The civil jury of business owners may have had experience with bad customers.
Yup. It’s a weapon. Just like a bottle of cranberry juice was. If you’re using an object to bash someone in the head, it’s a weapon.
And RG is as much a hero as a potato.
[edit]
I was not “convinced MB would be found guilty”.
I was convinced he would be found either Guilty of NGRI. I had no idea what the psychiatrists who examined him would say, or how to jury would come down on the issue of insanity which distinguishes those two verdicts.
I was, OTOH, confident he would not be found NG.
You and others were the ones who where wrong about the verdict. There was a thread in which people could register their “prediction” on the verdict, which included options for NG, NGRI, and Guilty.
By far the majority vote was for NG. Very few votes were for either Guilty or for the eventual verdict, NGRI.
I know you think you can plaster over the discrepancy between your prediction of NG vs the actual verdict of NGRI by continuing to claim “MB was found NG”. Heck, with the choir you’re preaching to, apparently you can!
I never said I predicted he would be found Guilty.
RG had every right to act in self defense and use the force necessary to subdue MB and saved lives by doing so.
MB would be in an even worse situation at this moment if LK or others had died.
This is the one true statement as dead people wouldn’t be able to testify and impeach themselves so very badly and thoroughly on the witness stand.
I haven’t missed it. She’s expressed compassion for him and hopes for his recovery numerous times.
Oh, do you imagine “support” only comes in the form of trashing the person he shot? Well, no, she hasn’t expressed your particular form of “support”.
MB hasn’t said a word. He hasn’t trashed anyone. You must have him confused with LK though I don’t understand how being one has a lifetime of hard work and the other is a grifter IMO.
I’m glad we agree. If RG had not subdued MB, it’s likely LK would have died, and possible MB would have shot others, including possibly himself. He was angry, delusional, armed with a lethal weapon, and had plenty of ammo.
Tell us, have YOU been the model of civility with your inflammatory outrageous posts?
And perhaps the cops would have done a much better job of forensic evidence gathering.
That’s not an agreement by any means as I’m dealing with an actual scenario and you convoluted, ever changing fantasy concocted as a chain of events that can’t be followed and where there is no proof.
The civil jury will see this.
Remember:
I’m quite sure the civil jury will have an entirely different take on the the FINISH THE BASTARDS and their attempted murder causing MB to black out twice and lose his memory after driving him insane and then initiating an assault him on him using a cell phone as a weapon by a person with a lengthy arrest record then adding the continuing assault of a convicted felon male drug addict reportedly skilled in deadly and potentially fatal fighting skills against the Olympic coach horsey guy.
But by all means practice writing “flatlined twice” repeatedly if it gives you comfort since you’ve apparently convinced yourself it means something.
What???
No, MB has not “said a word”. How would he post here, or anywhere, given that he has been in either a county jail or a secure psychiatric hospital since the shooting?
Eggbutt (and you) have said plenty of words, trashing LK and thinking she (Eggbutt) is “supporting” MB by doing so.
I have trashed no one. I only speak truth. If the truth makes her look bad the onus is LKs. I’m convinced there is zero way to make LK look good [edit].
Right now, I’m just mystified by the behavior of the Plaintiff and her witnesses in the lawsuit she chose to file.
Everything else may come to light during the course of the case, if her actions don’t end up in a dismissal before it gets that far.
LOL, the jury is going to think a twice shot 110 pound woman beating MB on the head with a six ounce cell phone was at fault for attempting to defend herself.
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