MB Civil Trial: JK/KK Contempt of Court?

[eggbutt]

@CurrentlyHorseless

thinking she (Eggbutt) is “supporting” MB by doing so.

Don’t dare assume you have any idea what I am doing, why, or for whom. Mkay?

[hut-ho78]

@eggbutt

@hut-ho78

That explains the civility of these threads.

Tell us, have YOU been the model of civility with your inflammatory outrageous posts?

Relatively speaking? Why yes.

However, I try to be better. I will reflect on your observation of my posts (that you don’t read) for a while.

[Sdel]

@CurrentlyHorseless

LOL, the jury is going to think a twice shot 110 pound woman beating MB on the head with a six ounce cell phone was at fault for attempting to defend herself.

Of course they won’t. RG testified that it never happened. He did testify to a lot of other things though….like Michael “having his hands up”….but no gun to be seen….

[lazaret]

@hut-ho78

ED testified he was told by JK that LK had to approve.

I cannot find any testimony containing this information.

Because I am having a lazy Sunday, I just rewatched Ed David’s entire testimony. This does not appear anywhere in either direct or cross examination.

Please cite your source for this information.

Bilinkas: “Was it your impression that [Mr. Tarshis] and you were in the process of working out Lauren Kanarek leaving the property?”
David: “We were working out a settlement of the, the dispute. One of the issues that we needed to resolve was if and when Lauren would leave the property.”

David: “Lauren was afraid of Mr. Barisone. At this particular period of time, after speaking with Mr. Tarshish, and really, making significant headway in resolving this whole thing, and de-escalating the situation, yeah, I think Lauren was not afraid of him at all, not at that very moment, no.”
Bilinkas: “Right before the shooting, right?”
David: “Right before the shooting. Because the whole thing was being resolved.”
Bilinkas: “When you say the whole thing was going to be resolved, you had never talked to Lauren Kanarek prior to the shooting with respect to your conversations with Tarshis regarding resolving this case, correct?”
David: “I don’t recall.”
Bilinkas: “Isn’t it the fact that you called them on that day to apprise them of your conversation with Tarshis?”
David: “I had called that day to apprise her of where we were at that particular moment in time. I had been on the phone with Tarshis since the day before, trying to resolve this.”
Bilinkas: “Prior to this day, did you get the impression that the issues between Barisone and Kanarek had been going on for weeks, if not longer?”
David: “Did I have that impression? yes.”
[testimony about David being traumatized by the phone call]
Bilinkas: “Did you have the impression that Michael Barisone’s girlfriend was creating issues with Kanarek and Barisone?”
David: “I was informed that that was the case prior to the shooting.”
[Bilinkas ends cross examination]
Schellhorn [on redirect, goes through phone records to indicate that David called Goodwin, and that he signed the notes after the fact but does not recall when that took place]

[Knights_Mom]

@CurrentlyHorseless

LOL, the jury is going to think a twice shot 110 pound woman beating MB on the head with a six ounce cell phone was at fault for attempting to defend herself.

No. Because that’s no where near the scenario they’ll be considering.

They will see it as I wrote it.

“I’m quite sure the civil jury will have an entirely different take on the the FINISH THE BASTARDS and their attempted murder causing MB to black out twice and lose his memory after driving him insane and then initiating an assault him on him using a cell phone as a weapon by a person with a lengthy arrest record then adding the continuing assault of a convicted felon male drug addict reportedly skilled in deadly and potentially fatal fighting skills against the Olympic coach horsey guy.”

[hut-ho78]

@Knights_Mom

@CurrentlyHorseless

@Knights_Mom

@CurrentlyHorseless

MB would be in an even worse situation at this moment if LK or others had died.

This is the one true statement as dead people wouldn’t be able to testify and impeach themselves so very badly and thoroughly on the witness stand.

I’m glad we agree. If RG had not subdued MB, it’s likely LK would have died, and possible MB would have shot others, including possibly himself. He was angry, delusional, armed with a lethal weapon, and had plenty of ammo.

That’s not an agreement by any means as I’m dealing with an actual scenario and you convoluted, ever changing fantasy concocted as a chain of events that can’t be followed and where there is no proof.

The civil jury will see this.

Active shooters tend to share one common factor-depression.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Knights_Mom

@CurrentlyHorseless

@Knights_Mom

@CurrentlyHorseless

Oh, do you imagine “support” only comes in the form of trashing the person he shot? Well, no, she hasn’t expressed your particular form of “support”.

MB hasn’t said a word. He hasn’t trashed anyone. You must have him confused with LK though I don’t understand how being one has a lifetime of hard work and the other is a grifter IMO.

What???

No, MB has not “said a word”. How would he post here, or anywhere, given that he has been in either a county jail or a secure psychiatric hospital since the shooting?

Eggbutt (and you) have said plenty of words, trashing LK and thinking she (Eggbutt) is “supporting” MB by doing so.

I have trashed no one. I only speak truth. If the truth makes her look bad the onus is LKs. I’m convinced there is zero way to make LK look good - [edit].

[edit] You’re not speaking the truth claiming you said nothing about MB offering RG a job, when you had a post speculating on exactly that mere hours before.

[eggbutt]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@Knights_Mom

Remember:

I’m quite sure the civil jury will have an entirely different take on the the FINISH THE BASTARDS and their attempted murder causing MB to black out twice and lose his memory after driving him insane and then initiating an assault him on him using a cell phone as a weapon by a person with a lengthy arrest record then adding the continuing assault of a convicted felon male drug addict reportedly skilled in deadly and potentially fatal fighting skills against the Olympic coach horsey guy.

But by all means practice writing “flatlined twice” repeatedly if it gives you comfort since you’ve apparently convinced yourself it means something.

LOL, the jury is going to think a twice shot 110 pound woman beating MB on the head with a six ounce cell phone was at fault for attempting to defend herself.

But that tiny 110 lb woman and her sidekick certainly drove a man to become temporarily insane with all their false reporting and ninja activities. The jury will be enthralled, just as the criminal jury was with a very strict focus of testimony. Guess what it will be like wide open for the entire truth to be told!

[Knights_Mom]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@Knights_Mom

@CurrentlyHorseless

@Knights_Mom

@CurrentlyHorseless

Oh, do you imagine “support” only comes in the form of trashing the person he shot? Well, no, she hasn’t expressed your particular form of “support”.

MB hasn’t said a word. He hasn’t trashed anyone. You must have him confused with LK though I don’t understand how being one has a lifetime of hard work and the other is a grifter IMO.

What???

No, MB has not “said a word”. How would he post here, or anywhere, given that he has been in either a county jail or a secure psychiatric hospital since the shooting?

Eggbutt (and you) have said plenty of words, trashing LK and thinking she (Eggbutt) is “supporting” MB by doing so.

I have trashed no one. I only speak truth. If the truth makes her look bad the onus is LKs. I’m convinced there is zero way to make LK look good - [edit].

[edit] You’re not speaking the truth claiming you said nothing about MB offering RG a job, when you had a post speculating on exactly that mere hours before.

[edit]

I never said that MB would offer RG a job. I said when people network a person can find a job. Please read better. This may be why you make so many mistakes.

[ekat]

@lazaret

I cannot find any testimony containing this information.

Because I am having a lazy Sunday, I just rewatched Ed David’s entire testimony. This does not appear anywhere in either direct or cross examination.

Thank you for doing this. I didn’t specifically remember that testimony either, but I was not inclined to go look.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@eggbutt

@CurrentlyHorseless

@Knights_Mom

Remember:

I’m quite sure the civil jury will have an entirely different take on the the FINISH THE BASTARDS and their attempted murder causing MB to black out twice and lose his memory after driving him insane and then initiating an assault him on him using a cell phone as a weapon by a person with a lengthy arrest record then adding the continuing assault of a convicted felon male drug addict reportedly skilled in deadly and potentially fatal fighting skills against the Olympic coach horsey guy.

But by all means practice writing “flatlined twice” repeatedly if it gives you comfort since you’ve apparently convinced yourself it means something.

LOL, the jury is going to think a twice shot 110 pound woman beating MB on the head with a six ounce cell phone was at fault for attempting to defend herself.

But that tiny 110 lb woman and her sidekick certainly drove a man to become temporarily insane with all their false reporting and ninja activities. The jury will be enthralled, just as the criminal jury was with a very strict focus of testimony. Guess what it will be like wide open for the entire truth to be told!

Ah, “temporarily insane”? He’s right as rain by now? Memory has returned?

How would you know this, Eggbutt?

[eggbutt]

@hut-ho78

Active shooters tend to share one common factor-depression.

?? Another phrase you cling to. Why is that? Active shooter implies still shooting.

But, hey, you’re the expert.

[hut-ho78]

@lazaret

@hut-ho78

ED testified he was told by JK that LK had to approve.

I cannot find any testimony containing this information.

Because I am having a lazy Sunday, I just rewatched Ed David’s entire testimony. This does not appear anywhere in either direct or cross examination.

Please cite your source for this information.

Bilinkas: “Was it your impression that [Mr. Tarshis] and you were in the process of working out Lauren Kanarek leaving the property?”
David: “We were working out a settlement of the, the dispute. One of the issues that we needed to resolve was if and when Lauren would leave the property.”

David: “Lauren was afraid of Mr. Barisone. At this particular period of time, after speaking with Mr. Tarshish, and really, making significant headway in resolving this whole thing, and de-escalating the situation, yeah, I think Lauren was not afraid of him at all, not at that very moment, no.”
Bilinkas: “Right before the shooting, right?”
David: “Right before the shooting. Because the whole thing was being resolved.”
Bilinkas: “When you say the whole thing was going to be resolved, you had never talked to Lauren Kanarek prior to the shooting with respect to your conversations with Tarshis regarding resolving this case, correct?”
David: “I don’t recall.”
Bilinkas: “Isn’t it the fact that you called them on that day to apprise them of your conversation with Tarshis?”
David: “I had called that day to apprise her of where we were at that particular moment in time. I had been on the phone with Tarshis since the day before, trying to resolve this.”
Bilinkas: “Prior to this day, did you get the impression that the issues between Barisone and Kanarek had been going on for weeks, if not longer?”
David: “Did I have that impression? yes.”
[testimony about David being traumatized by the phone call]
Bilinkas: “Did you have the impression that Michael Barisone’s girlfriend was creating issues with Kanarek and Barisone?”
David: “I was informed that that was the case prior to the shooting.”
[Bilinkas ends cross examination]
Schellhorn [on redirect, goes through phone records to indicate that David called Goodwin, and that he signed the notes after the fact but does not recall when that took place]

Thank you. Tarshis may have said it.

[hut-ho78]

@eggbutt

@CurrentlyHorseless

@Knights_Mom

Remember:

I’m quite sure the civil jury will have an entirely different take on the the FINISH THE BASTARDS and their attempted murder causing MB to black out twice and lose his memory after driving him insane and then initiating an assault him on him using a cell phone as a weapon by a person with a lengthy arrest record then adding the continuing assault of a convicted felon male drug addict reportedly skilled in deadly and potentially fatal fighting skills against the Olympic coach horsey guy.

But by all means practice writing “flatlined twice” repeatedly if it gives you comfort since you’ve apparently convinced yourself it means something.

LOL, the jury is going to think a twice shot 110 pound woman beating MB on the head with a six ounce cell phone was at fault for attempting to defend herself.

But that tiny 110 lb woman and her sidekick certainly drove a man to become temporarily insane with all their false reporting and ninja activities. The jury will be enthralled, just as the criminal jury was with a very strict focus of testimony. Guess what it will be like wide open for the entire truth to be told!

No. Not proven they drove him insane. He had top 10 stressors in his life already and 8-9 concussions. They may simply have been in the wrong place at the wrong time.

[ekat]

@hut-ho78

No. Not proven they drove him insane. He had top 10 stressors in his life already and 8-9 concussions. They may simply have been in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Are you predicting what this new jury of 6 will find? A new jury that doesn’t require a unanimous decision? I don’t think we know the answer to that yet, do we?

[Knights_Mom]

@hut-ho78

No. Not proven they drove him insane. He had top 10 stressors in his life already and 8-9 concussions. They may simply have been in the wrong place at the wrong time.

And THIS statement perfectly illustrates a departure from reality.

[hut-ho78]

@Knights_Mom

@trubandloki

I do sure wish we could see all the subpoenas so we would know what has been asked of RG and his responses. Clearly he has responded since there is no contempt filing against him.

Could very well be. Or maybe he’s negotiating a turn. It occurs to me he could potentially negotiate his own release from his incarceration by Kanarek by testifying on behalf of MB in exchange for a job opportunity where he can live his own life, have his own home and future.

Florida is not a common law marriage state so his unwed time with her counts for nothing. She could dump him at any time or her circumstances change and he’s left on the street. But a job opportunity puts him back to being the master of his own destiny.

I imagine such a possibility would be quite inviting.

Here is where you said it @Knights_Mom. I think that would be bribing a witness but then IANAL.

[eggbutt]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@eggbutt

@CurrentlyHorseless

@Knights_Mom

Remember:

I’m quite sure the civil jury will have an entirely different take on the the FINISH THE BASTARDS and their attempted murder causing MB to black out twice and lose his memory after driving him insane and then initiating an assault him on him using a cell phone as a weapon by a person with a lengthy arrest record then adding the continuing assault of a convicted felon male drug addict reportedly skilled in deadly and potentially fatal fighting skills against the Olympic coach horsey guy.

But by all means practice writing “flatlined twice” repeatedly if it gives you comfort since you’ve apparently convinced yourself it means something.

LOL, the jury is going to think a twice shot 110 pound woman beating MB on the head with a six ounce cell phone was at fault for attempting to defend herself.

But that tiny 110 lb woman and her sidekick certainly drove a man to become temporarily insane with all their false reporting and ninja activities. The jury will be enthralled, just as the criminal jury was with a very strict focus of testimony. Guess what it will be like wide open for the entire truth to be told!

Ah, “temporarily insane”? He’s right as rain by now? Memory has returned?

How would you know this, Eggbutt?

Where did I say this? Just stop your antics. They are tiresome.

BTW, definition of “active shooter” per the FBI. Stop using your favored term.

“Active shooter or active killer describes the perpetrator of a type of mass murder marked by rapidity, scale, randomness, and often suicide.”

[ekat]

@eggbutt

“Active shooter or active killer describes the perpetrator of a type of mass murder marked by rapidity, scale, randomness, and often suicide.”

One could make an assumption, based on that definition, that one would show up with more than two bullets in the gun. But what do I know?

[Knights_Mom]

@hut-ho78

@Knights_Mom

@trubandloki

I do sure wish we could see all the subpoenas so we would know what has been asked of RG and his responses. Clearly he has responded since there is no contempt filing against him.

Could very well be. Or maybe he’s negotiating a turn. It occurs to me he could potentially negotiate his own release from his incarceration by Kanarek by testifying on behalf of MB in exchange for a job opportunity where he can live his own life, have his own home and future.

Florida is not a common law marriage state so his unwed time with her counts for nothing. She could dump him at any time or her circumstances change and he’s left on the street. But a job opportunity puts him back to being the master of his own destiny.

I imagine such a possibility would be quite inviting.

Here is where you said it @Knights_Mom. I think that would be bribing a witness but then IANAL.

Again, read better. I did not say what you allege I did. Testifying on MBs behalf doesn’t mean MB is offering a job.

But again, in being in the company of successful business owners who don’t have a history of arrests perhaps RG could find that construction job he likes and obtain a license.