I could imagine that he would be able to testify to everything up to August 7, 2019 and how Lauren’s, Rob’s and Jonathan’s behavior/actions influenced him and all clients at SGF. BUT, I have no idea what Deininger and Bilinkas will advise him to do.
4 Likes
Don’t forget front and center of the civil trials will be good old Rosie and all she contributed to events.
7 Likes
I’ve been wondering the same. I agree with Eggbutt, there is a lot he can testify to outside of the shooting.
Legal eagles, how do you think the trial will fair if he doesn’t testify?
3 Likes
Lol I deleted my question bc I thought it was stupid.
1 Like
but could MB continue with his law suit?
1 Like
Lol, I didn’t think it was! I’ve been wondering a lot about if and how MB will testify. I think he will but I am just speculating. I think his side of the story could be incredibly powerful to his case.
4 Likes
Circling back again to the protective order Nagel advised he is going to file.
If it is to support his request for a remote deposition of LK, why is he waiting until two weeks before the deposition to file the protective order request? Why not file it now?
Is it another delaying tactic? IOW, I assume there will be some back and forth between Nagel, Deininger, and the judge as the latter wrestles with whether to grant Nagel’s request for a remote deposition. And that back and forth will no doubt take a bit of time - which means the deposition will end up getting pushed back. Correct?
3 Likes
Hopefully the smart legal people answer. I wondered the same thing, was it typical to say in advance they are doing this versus just doing it.
I thought maybe it was the lawyer version of Lauren Kanarek’s threat technique. “If you do not do it my way I am going to file this thing that is going to make it more difficult for you.”
3 Likes
Maybe it’s simple an Ed just missed a deadline or something. IMO he does not seem like the best lawyer. I wasn’t impressed with his composure or tact on the witness stand or regarding the verdict. I would personally be very hesitant to use him for the civil trial but perhaps options are slim.
4 Likes
Bruce is a different lawyer. After the verdict he’s the one that called the jury insane.
Although, I imagine we will hear more from Ed.
6 Likes
It’s not stupid at all. I actually have wondered the same. On the one hand, he has a story to tell, and it could be quite compelling. On the other hand, I’d be worried about the fact that he does have amnesia, and how that will work with the jury, and if he can hold up to cross examination.
I would imagine Deininger and Bilinkas will have a better feel once he is out of Ann Klein and can sit for a deposition. And yes, I’d say the deposition is a given.
11 Likes
Ah, ok. Thanks for that clarification. Ugh, then that’s 2/2 I’m not impressed with. I’m not a lawyer but if I were, I don’t think I would ever take on her case. Maybe if I could bill $700 an hour and drink on the job.
6 Likes
I mean, the plaintiff just doesn’t do this typically so trying to figure out any rationale behind it hurts my head.
I am not sure if it was SGF’s lawyer or Deininger, but one of them said they had no issue changing the dates for an in person deposition.
6 Likes
Do you think it’s possible he won’t testify at all?
2 Likes
I hesitate to fall either way. I would guess he wants to testify. And I do believe that Deininger and Bilinkas are going to protect his best interests. I also believe, as evidenced by that moment in court where he told the judge, “whatever Mr Bilinkas says” that he trusts his attorneys.
10 Likes
Thank you and @Warmblood1. It feels like, of course he’s going to testify and then it feels like, no its better to let the attnys handle it since it worked out well in the criminal trial.
Does anyone know if therapy has ever been successful in restoring memories from people suffering as MB has? (Another topic I don’t know much about, mental health etc)
I hope when Mr. B gets his chance to question RG and LK on the stand he brings a big basket of reading glasses, one in every power, and offers them up with his now famous smirk.
9 Likes
He definitely had the option to do that, and was advised not to testify by his lawyer.
On the criminal trial his declining to testify could not be used against him. In the civil trial, it can be.
Yes, memories can be retrieved though what type of therapy is indicated and it’s success rate is varied.
I personally hope that MB is evaluated by a neuropsychiatrist to evaluate for potential TBI. IMO he absolutely could have suffered from one.
Cognitive behavioral therapy is indicated for a lot of TBI’s and has shown clinical improvement with those cases, even with patients who have temporal lobe injuries (and beyond) which may affect memory.
There are also cases where patients have repressed memories from trauma and those can resurface with or without treatment. It’s varied.
13 Likes
Civil cases are so different than criminal. I would bet a dozen donuts he’s going to be deposed, so there will be a written sworn record of testimony.
The plaintiff could, theoretically, call him to the stand, or rely on the deposition. So, in some ways it seems like the better move is to just put him up there yourself and work through the testimony.
It’s the amnesia portion of this that throws me, and I may be overthinking it, and he’ll probably be just fine, either way it goes.
I don’t know of any actual credible science behind memory recovery, but I have not spent much time researching it either. The brain is such a miracle and mystery combined, and I would personally always wonder (general, not specific to this case) if a recovered memory is true, or is it a byproduct of stories you’ve heard over the years taking root. And how could anyone ever scientifically prove one way or the other?
9 Likes
