Michael Barisone/Lauren Kanarek Civil Suit

[StB.YM]

@CurrentlyHorseless

I don’t see where you can determine when LK read a given text.

The time column closest to the right is, I believe, the read time (essentially, probably when that text chain was opened).

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@KurPlexed

Couldn’t sleep last night and rewatched 48hrs and day 2 of LK on the stand being questioned by Bilinkis. It’s amazing how bad of a liar she is and how easy it is to see thru all her lies especially since the new texts came out.

He questioned her about the homeless text and asked (paraphrasing) Was it your intention to make them homeless? Her answer yes, well not myyyyy plan but yes a plan nonetheless.

If you listen really carefully to JK on 48hrs he says some pretty interesting things that I didn’t catch the first time.

They just look so disgusting. There is no hiding that. After watching for a 2nd time I have zero doubt that LK got physical with MB first. She has some pretty big tells on the stand. I just hope the civil trial plays out. There is so much more we haven’t been privy to.

@erinmeri

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

I am wondering about Silver as well. Will he even bother responding?

I found the earlier analysis of GAS’ letter by a few of the lawyers very interesting. Especially how his use of the word ‘constrained’ in effect conveys that he is writing it to satisfy his client’s request… but he is aware it’s unconventional at best, and not an optimal choice from a legal strategy perspective.

I will go ahead and read between the lines, and conclude this is probably how things played out behind the scenes last fall, when Nagel and associates were still representing LK. It seems like JK is being very assertive behind the scenes with his daughter and her attorneys.

Again… this family has very unhealthy relationships with one another. Father and daughter seem bizarrely enmeshed. She’s in her 40’s he’s in his late 60’s or early 70’s. Why can’t she run her own life without Daddio involved in all this stuff related to horse trainers, living and boarding agreements and contracts, and now, her attorneys and the civil suit?

It’s bizarre.

[3PonyFarm]

@Einhorn, If the next Krol hearing doesn’t release MB, can his attorney file an appeal?
I was looking at a case State v. C.M. Docket No. A-2631-17T3 5/26/19 and it looked liked it was a successful appeal for a previous Krol hearing.
I just hope he has options if the hearing doesn’t go his way.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@StB.YM

@CurrentlyHorseless

I don’t see where you can determine when LK read a given text.

The time column closest to the right is, I believe, the read time (essentially, probably when that text chain was opened).

Thank you @StB.YM!

Yes, it appears there was a text chain among LK,RG, and JK, and if that means that LK did not read those messages until 9:32 (sounds plausible) that RG said “The building inspectors are coming tomorrow” and a few minutes later JK responded with “Haha, maybe they’ll be homeless”.

ETA: On second thought, it’s still unclear. The homeless remark could be a response by JK to RG, or RG may have added it as a kicker to his previous post.

[StB.YM]

I wonder if these are just as grainy, grey, and pixelated when provided to the clerks/judge or its from the uploading process. I can’t imagine having to review files like this on a daily basis.

[yaya]

@DownYonder

@eggbutt

Such a strange man with an even stranger death. I had never heard of ropes around genitals and neck before his death! Who does that?

Eek. Who are we talking about?

I’m trying to catch up, but I need more context for this post. The ones immediately preceding it were discussing JK.

Yeah, where did this tangent even come from? This thread is getting so hard to follow with all the side conversations. May take a break and just wait for a new thread if there are any developments.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@StB.YM

I wonder if these are just as grainy, grey, and pixelated when provided to the clerks/judge or its from the uploading process. I can’t imagine having to review files like this on a daily basis.

I was assuming that it’s filed electronically, so I’m guessing the judge sees what we see.

[Ghazzu]

[DownYonder]

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

I found the earlier analysis of GAS’ letter by a few of the lawyers very interesting. Especially how his use of the word ‘constrained’ in effect conveys that he is writing it to satisfy his client’s request… but he is aware it’s unconventional at best, and not an optimal choice from a legal strategy perspective.

I made this post back on Tuesday.

It now seems rather fairly likely that they knew about GAS’ letter before it was filed and were none too happy about the tone of it.

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

IM definitely knew about that letter before it was sent.

[smoofox]

@CurrentlyHorseless

You are very earnest in your building of straw men.

Noooo… you are the master at that - as we have seen through endless threads. But thank you for saying I am “very earnest”.

[Knights_Mom]

@MorganSercu

Not the ones who take it seriously. Consent and safety are paramount.

Very true. From what I’ve seen gatherings don’t even have alcohol.

[eggbutt]

Alex Murdough is testifying live now!

[Einhorn]

@3PonyFarm

If the next Krol hearing doesn’t release MB, can his attorney file an appeal?
I was looking at a case State v. C.M. Docket No. A-2631-17T3 5/26/19 and it looked liked it was a successful appeal for a previous Krol hearing.
I just hope he has options if the hearing doesn’t go his way.

I’m not licensed in NJ,v so this is just general legal info:

Generally one can file an appeal after a court makes a ruling, so is think yes, if the parties have notice, the judge hears evidence makes findings of fact and makes conclusions of law based on those findings, it can be appealed.

[smoofox]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@StB.YM

@CurrentlyHorseless

I don’t see where you can determine when LK read a given text.

The time column closest to the right is, I believe, the read time (essentially, probably when that text chain was opened).

Yes, it appears there was a text chain among LK,RG, and JK, and if that means that LK did not read those messages until 9:32 (sounds plausible) that RG said “The building inspectors are coming tomorrow” and a few minutes later JK responded with “Haha, maybe they’ll be homeless”.

ETA: On second thought, it’s still unclear. The homeless remark could be a response by JK to RG, or RG may have added it as a kicker to his previous post.

At least you finally acknowledged what other posters have been telling you. I am not sure why you have been on this mini-crusade to suggest that JK could not have said such a thing or been a party to it…

[SillyHorse]

@eggbutt

Alex Murdough is testifying live now!

Bye!

[Knights_Mom]

@StB.YM

I wonder if these are just as grainy, grey, and pixelated when provided to the clerks/judge or its from the uploading process. I can’t imagine having to review files like this on a daily basis.

Scanning copied docs in ecourts can be a problem because the scanners don’t automatically make things easier to read. Colored paper is a nightmare too. I used to have try magic on a regular copy machine and then scan that into ecourts. But big files with many pages is tough.

[DownYonder]

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

IM definitely knew about that letter before it was sent.

Yes - and apparently wasn’t thrilled with it. I’m wondering if he either drafted a response but Stone declined to use it, or if Stone wasn’t going to respond at all but JK leaned on him big time. And Stone acquiesced but inserted the word “constrained” to register his protest.

It makes me wonder how long it will be before Stone tries to disengage himself from dealing with those folks.

[MHM]

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

Why can’t she run her own life without Daddio involved in all this stuff related to horse trainers, living and boarding agreements and contracts, and now, her attorneys and the civil suit?

And even her interactions here on the BB?

How many other posters on this BB have their parents create accounts in order to support their opinions? Show of hands?