Michael Barisone/Lauren Kanarek Civil Suit

[Sdel]

The relevant paperwork would probably be “Power of attorney”….

[Einhorn]

@MorganSercu

They have to authorize it in writing - not just verbally. In my state it has to be witnessed too

Are you talking about medical records?

[Ambitious_Kate]

@LexInVA

The narrative, as I understand it and have been told, is that LK went down to FL with her trainer, and RG was in tow. Said trainer was going to different clinics with other trainers, including MB, where LK opportunistically approached MB and talked herself and her family up, eager to get in his graces and his barn in FL and NJ. Then she went back to NC to relocate to FL for a bit to be with MB and then relocated back to NJ after the seasonal period was over, to be with MB there, with the understanding that she would eventually be finding lodging for herself and RG, which apparently didn’t happen because JK didn’t want to pay more money - he was said to have set a monthly limit for what he would give her for whatever it was she was up to - for additional housing there or keep LK in his home.

This is what I always figured happened. Lk glommed onto MB, probably talking herself up to him, and eventually JK had to come up to NJ and tell MB he had to give LK housing or else. L k had a budget, and her horses with MB exceeded it.

[eggbutt]

@BigMama1

@LexInVA

They claim that the parents were invited to meet MB in FL, before LK chose to go down there with RG, hoping that LK would just show up alone instead of being accompanied by her parents or trainer. At least that’s how I read it.

And it makes zero sense that MB, out of the blue, would contact them and invite them to meet him and Justin unless someone had approached him about the Kanareks first (training Lauren and / or having Daddio sponsor him). Top level dressage trainers just don’t watch average ammies in a low level class and proclaim, “Somebody bring that girl to me. I must train her!”

This notion that IM put forth is a typical example of a smidgen of truth. What he didn’t share was how the conversation came to be. Did Michael Barisone search out Lauren Kanarek and her father and place a phone call? No way. Remember it is IM/JK who is charged with finding places for LK to go. There are a few stories that circulated about JK contacting trainers in FL and repeatedly demanding they take his daughter and her horses on.

By the way, most super BNT’s now are requiring references before accepting new clients at their facilities. Some even require proficiency at specific levels to be considered. BNT’s make a large bulk of their income by teaching clinics and selling horses. They don’t need lower level student like LK in their barns.

[Ambitious_Kate]

Exactly.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@smoofox

@CurrentlyHorseless

No, my actual posts are not the straw men, duh. It’s your not real subtle misrepresentation of them that creates the straw men.

I am not misrepresenting them. You lay them all out there repeatedly (see corgi on the merry-go-round above), often making excuses for IM/JK - even praising him as being credible. Everyone can see those posts for themselves and offer their own opinion. No straw men - or hay men - involved.

Also, there is no need to tag someone when you are already quoting them. It is just… redundant. No matter who does it.

But you do you.

Yes, you are constantly misrepresenting what I say. I’m not sure you are capable of responding without automatically restating and misrepresenting what I say into something easier for you to knock down.

Perhaps you could just quote my actual words and respond to them without attributing to me something I didn’t say.

In tagging, I generally attempt to mirror the way ban other poster does it doesn’t tag me. Are you a non tagger? If so, I will attempt to refrain from tagging you.

[LexInVA]

@Ambitious_Kate

Exactly.

[Graymaresrule]

@MHM

@BatCoach

@Einhorn

@BatCoach

My question was would/ could they share this info (pre-trial) with LO?

MB can authorize that, yes.

thank you!

Probably like confidentiality in a medical setting, I would think.

If someone who is not a relative walks into a hospital and asked for information about a patient, the medical staff does not disclose anything.

But the patient could authorize it by saying, “That’s my friend/dogwalker/fishing buddy, and you can give that person the information.”

Even if the person is a relative the patient has to give permission for the medical team to share info. I’m not sure how that works with a minor.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@BatCoach

@CurrentlyHorseless

I am assuming that MBs legal team, and therefore an insider like LO, would have access to the unredacted versions of the exhibit. We outsiders have access only to the redacted version that was posted.

All the lawyers would have access to the unredacted texts and would be able to see exactly who wrote the incoming “homeless” text.

I agree the lawyers certainly have access to the unredacted texts.

My question was would/ could they share this info (pre-trial) with LO? Particularly since LO is not legally tied to him as a wife or blood relative. I was genuinely asking how much confidentiality surrounds case discovery items to people who are not the defendant or legally tied to defendant.

LO is not his wife and he doesn’t have a wife. I think I’ve read that he is not close to a sister.

I would think that he could give power of attorney status to
his most trusted personal supporter. In this case, with the finding of delusional behavior and the commitment to a psychiatric facility, I would think it’s likely that there is someone with the legal authority to represent his interests and interact with his lawyers.

[eggbutt]

Only in the South are grown men called Pawpaw, RoRo and several other similar names. The Murdough trial is real picture of Southern good ol’ boys.

[eggbutt]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@BatCoach

@CurrentlyHorseless

I am assuming that MBs legal team, and therefore an insider like LO, would have access to the unredacted versions of the exhibit. We outsiders have access only to the redacted version that was posted.

All the lawyers would have access to the unredacted texts and would be able to see exactly who wrote the incoming “homeless” text.

I agree the lawyers certainly have access to the unredacted texts.

My question was would/ could they share this info (pre-trial) with LO? Particularly since LO is not legally tied to him as a wife or blood relative. I was genuinely asking how much confidentiality surrounds case discovery items to people who are not the defendant or legally tied to defendant.

LO is not his wife and he doesn’t have a wife. I think I’ve read that he is not close to a sister.

I would think that he could give power of attorney status to
his most trusted personal supporter. In this case, with the finding of delusional behavior and the commitment to a psychiatric facility, I would think it’s likely that there is someone with the legal authority to represent his interests and interact with his lawyers.

And? Your point? Does JK have authority over LK or vice versa? How about KK? RG? What tree are you trying to bark up?

[BatCoach]

@CurrentlyHorseless

I would think that he could give power of attorney status to
his most trusted personal supporter.

Very possible. We just don’t know that with certainty. Although based on other responses, it looks like his lawyers could share discovery with LO as long as MB had granted permission.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@KurPlexed

@CurrentlyHorseless

But maybe it’s not worthy of criticism

It’s really not.

It’s not worthy of criticism when a member of the EIM
does it, or not worthy of criticism regardless of who does it?

[MorganSercu]

Yes and legal ones.

[Scribbler]

So am I following the crazy-chain correctly?

An anonymous COTH poster with a long posting history accesses public documents on a NJ court web site and posts them here.

Someone else claims this proves she is one of MBs inner support team because how??

MBs inner circle has been distinguished by their discretion and silence online during the whole mess including the trial. The only outward facing postings are the GoFundMe updates. LK and family on the other hand have cycled through multiple ID and user names on multiple platforms over the past years. To their own detriment it seems.

[MorganSercu]

Except ekat has posted documents as they became available online.

Someone groused that it sounded like MB’s lawyer(s) filings sounded as though they were written by members of COTH. I still suspect there are people in their offices who took it upon themselves to read COTH and perhaps some of the posts were memorable.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@eggbutt

@CurrentlyHorseless

@BatCoach

@CurrentlyHorseless

I am assuming that MBs legal team, and therefore an insider like LO, would have access to the unredacted versions of the exhibit. We outsiders have access only to the redacted version that was posted.

All the lawyers would have access to the unredacted texts and would be able to see exactly who wrote the incoming “homeless” text.

I agree the lawyers certainly have access to the unredacted texts.

My question was would/ could they share this info (pre-trial) with LO? Particularly since LO is not legally tied to him as a wife or blood relative. I was genuinely asking how much confidentiality surrounds case discovery items to people who are not the defendant or legally tied to defendant.

LO is not his wife and he doesn’t have a wife. I think I’ve read that he is not close to a sister.

I would think that he could give power of attorney status to
his most trusted personal supporter. In this case, with the finding of delusional behavior and the commitment to a psychiatric facility, I would think it’s likely that there is someone with the legal authority to represent his interests and interact with his lawyers.

And? Your point? Does JK have authority over LK or vice versa? How about KK? RG? What tree are you trying to bark up?

I was responding to the question posed by BatCoach, which I have indicated in bold.

I believe Einhorn gave the same answer.

[MHM]

I feel like I’ve missed some of these developments, so I can only imagine they are from people I have on ignore. Thank goodness. Lol.

[trubandloki]

[BigMama1]

If I’m going to be labelled as one of the mob leaders clearly I need to step up my posting game. I’m way behind.