Michael Barisone/Lauren Kanarek Civil Suit

[lazaret]

From LK’s initial filing, paragraph 6 of the count 1 claim for strict liability:

“6. This confrontation followed an extended and protracted
campaign by Defendants Barisone and/or Cox and/or Sweetgrass
Farms, LLC and/or John Does 1-30 and/or ABC Corps 1-20, and
their representatives, associates, friends, and/or agents, of
harassing Plaintiff and her fiancée.”

Seems indeed that any such campaigns of harassment are absolutely fair game, since she alleges they were perpetrated against her.

[DownYonder]

New court filing in response to GAS’s recent motion.

[3PonyFarm]

I hope the judge doesn’t make anymore uncalled for remarks about his appearance now and that of the trial. That was conduct unbecoming of a judge IMO.

[DownYonder]

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

I think there is a risk that if Bilinkas argues too stridently, or pushes an appeal at this point… the net result might be a delay in MBs release, as Taylor might be resentful of being challenged.

As we saw in the criminal trial, Taylor seems to have a dislike of Bilinkas and looks for opportunities to smack him down.

[Einhorn]

@lazaret

From LK’s initial filing, paragraph 6 of the count 1 claim for strict liability:

“6. This confrontation followed an extended and protracted
campaign by Defendants Barisone and/or Cox and/or Sweetgrass
Farms, LLC and/or John Does 1-30 and/or ABC Corps 1-20, and
their representatives, associates, friends, and/or agents, of
harassing Plaintiff and her fiancée.”

Seems indeed that any such campaigns of harassment are absolutely fair game, since she alleges they were perpetrated against her.

D’oh!

I hate when that happens!

[DownYonder]

@lazaret

From LK’s initial filing, paragraph 6 of the count 1 claim for strict liability:

“6. This confrontation followed an extended and protracted
campaign by Defendants Barisone and/or Cox and/or Sweetgrass
Farms, LLC and/or John Does 1-30 and/or ABC Corps 1-20, and
their representatives, associates, friends, and/or agents, of
harassing Plaintiff and her fiancée.”

Seems indeed that any such campaigns of harassment are absolutely fair game, since she alleges they were perpetrated against her.

So GAS thinks it is okay to discuss alleged harassment of LK by MB et al, but discussions regarding her harassment of them is off limits. I hope Weaver sees through this absurd point of view but I am not holding my breath - it is New Jersey after all.

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

In all fairness, the original complaint was prepared by Nagel and associates.

But… it’s GAS who is responsible for this case now… so he should take some note of details like this…

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

Is there a document linked to this?

[ekat]

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

Is there a document linked to this?

[Angela_Freda]

Page, or box 66, in her testimony, she saw Rob on top of MB and the gun under MB.
Um, if he was on top of the gun how could she see it?

[DownYonder]

@DownYonder

New court filing in response to GAS’s recent motion.

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

Is there a document linked to this?

I have logged off the court site, but there wasn’t a document other than the notification that it was being sent via eCourt to all counsels. At least I think that is what the envelope icon indicates…

Ah, I now see that ekat posted a copy of the notification. Thanks @ekat!

[hut-ho78]

@DownYonder

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

I think there is a risk that if Bilinkas argues too stridently, or pushes an appeal at this point… the net result might be a delay in MBs release, as Taylor might be resentful of being challenged.

As we saw in the criminal trial, Taylor seems to have a dislike of Bilinkas and looks for opportunities to smack him down.

I was surprised Judge Taylor wasn’t harder on the defense for violating court rules.

[eggbutt]

@CurrentlyHorseless

If Taylor has acted incorrectly, why would Bilinkas wait to appeal his Krol hearing rulings?

Maybe he hasn’t waited.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@ekat

@CurrentlyHorseless

The filings of the defense attorneys are not claiming that LKs provocation “drove MB insane.”

I know that’s the EIM narrative, but it’s not the legal argument that MBs lawyers are trying to push.

I’m going to keep posting this, every time you say that, because you’re still wrong.

From MB’s amended answer:

Bonus from SGF’s answer:

Thanks for posting that. It refers to “battered-person-syndrome caused by plaintiff’s campaign of emotional battery against Barisone and/or persons in his care.”

Is temporary insanity the same thing as battered person syndrome? If he was subjected to a campaign of emotional battery, he could have evicted her rather than shooting her.

The SGF response: where does that say LK caused MBs insanity? One of the two defenses has argued that LK should have mitigated her damages by realizing that MB was mentally unstable and backed off. But that is very different from saying she drove him insane. She didn’t drive him insane.

[Angela_Freda]

@smoofox

Purina Donna-ness…

Or Pre Madonna.

[ekat]

@CurrentlyHorseless

Thanks for posting that. It refers to “battered-person-syndrome caused by plaintiff’s campaign of emotional battery against Barisone and/or persons in his care.”

Is temporary insanity the same thing as battered person syndrome? If he was subjected to a campaign of emotional battery, he could have evicted her rather than shooting her.

This really can’t be that hard for you, can it?

Re: SGF’s response: that was a highlight from the answer from before the criminal trial. Silver makes it abundantly clear in subsequent filings exactly where he is going with that. Some of those filings are even included in the original post of this thread.

[MHM]

The lawyers could not find email addresses for Does 1-30 or ABC Corps 1-20? Slackers. Lol.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@ekat

@CurrentlyHorseless

Thanks for posting that. It refers to “battered-person-syndrome caused by plaintiff’s campaign of emotional battery against Barisone and/or persons in his care.”

Is temporary insanity the same thing as battered person syndrome? If he was subjected to a campaign of emotional battery, he could have evicted her rather than shooting her.

This really can’t be that hard for you, can it?

Re: SGF’s response: that was a highlight from the answer from before the criminal trial. Silver makes it abundantly clear in subsequent filings exactly where he is going with that. Some of those filings are even included in the original post of this thread.

I understand that the word insanity was included in the same sentence as the term “battered-person-syndrome”, @ekat. The sentence asserts that her campaign of emotional battery caused his alleged “battered-person-syndrome”. It does not say it caused his insanity.

Thanks for agreeing that the snippet from SGF that you posted says nothing about LK allegedly driving MB insane. The issue with her provocative behavior is that she should have recognized his fragile mental state and mitigated her damages by backing off the provocation, not that she caused his insanity. However, they’ll be hard to prove given that RC and MHG didn’t recognize his mental breakdown either.

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

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I give that pirouette a 5. Too much on the forehand.

But IANAJ (I am not a judge.)