Michael Barisone/Lauren Kanarek Civil Suit

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@Virginia_Horse_Mom

Stop being condescending Trubs. She gets sensitive about that. It hurts her feelings.

But… it’s ok for her to call breast cancer survivors cowards. We don’t have feelings.

These are the rules. If we don’t accept these rules… ‘someone’ will flag our posts and try to get the mods to lock the thread.

My calling you a coward was not due to your status as a breast cancer survivor, it was due to your calling Seeker a liar over the issue of the exact amount of her daughters breast tissue that had to be removed, and for failing to acknowledge the additional trauma LK had to endure, relative to your surgery, having been shot.

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@Virginia_Horse_Mom

@CurrentlyHorseless

“friended” MHGs children, I said that if it had occurred in 2018 when the whole group was living in the farmhouse in apparent peace it could be benign, but if it occurred in July or August 2019 when tensions were high it was inexcusable.

I trust Deininger to present a benign act as nefarious if he possibly can.

MB and MHG agreed to a situation in which LK and RG lived in the farmhouse, where the children would have been in contact with them IRL when they visited. Obviously they regretted that decision. But given that real life living situation which appeared to work well in the summer of 2018, I would not find a “friending” on SM creepy if it occurred in that context.

In 2018, MHGs kids were 12 years old, and younger, I think.

In 2018, RG was apparently still struggling with drug addiction, and still had an arrest record as a violent individual who was involved in multiple assaults.

Nothing about an adult male with a background like that, friending s 12 year old child on social media, a child to whom they are unrelated, is “benign” or appropriate. NOTHING.

If you disagree about the friending issue, fine. I never said that cyberstalking minors is OK. I also don’t approve of cyberstalking and creating fake Linked In profiles to smear someone.

According to IM, RG fixed the kids bikes. (I’m not sure which kids.) Is that appropriate?

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

CH. I think you really should stop with this personal obsession about me and my posts, and refocus on the topic.

2 questions for you.

1. Are you nervous that MB might get one significant step closer to release after today’s Krol hearing?

2. Do you think Lollypop is struggling right now, given the uncertainty her deposition, and the fact that Judge Weaver might rule to allow Deininger, Bilinkas and Silver all to GRILL her over her provocative actions leading up to the shooting?

Me personally? I think Lollypop is struggling and freaking out, and trying to comfort herself right now with denial, and probably focusing on trivial stuff. Sooner or later, the inevitable is going to happen. MB is going to be released, and Lollypop is going to have to take a turn in the hot seat.

[trubandloki]

I was really looking forward to watching things today, even though I knew deep down that it would not be public.
I just love how Mr. Deininger writes, he is so clear and concise and includes all the factual evidence to back up what he is saying. Having seen him question people at the criminal trial, the idea of watching his amazing stage presence and knowledge today is something I was greatly looking forward to.

[Jealoushe]

To be fair that profile does look incredibly fake. Might have nothing to do with the real JK considering the name isn’t correct. Doubt it was created for this situation and likely unrelated. JMO

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@CurrentlyHorseless

But given that real life living situation which appeared to work well in the summer of 2018, I would not find a “friending” on SM creepy if it occurred in that context.

Considering the loud and proud animosity and loathing towards MHG that JK, LK and KK have all whinged about… it is creepy and inappropriate in any context. There was obviously no friendship or affection there. Plus calls to the authorities about child abuse… and yet you think this is all somehow extremely benign?

You are smarter than that, CH.

Oh wait - IM the Extremely Credible And Honest Person Who Must Never Be Doubted said that RG the Superhero fixed the kids’ bikes? Well, that changes everything!! /s

[trubandloki]

@CurrentlyHorseless

According to IM, RG fixed the kids bikes. (I’m not sure which kids.) Is that appropriate?

Is this the same @Inigo-montoya who said he would meet me today to explain to me today why he thinks it is funny to make someone homeless?

It is not quite noon yet, so I guess he still has time to explain it, right? Though I am still waiting for him to tell me where he is going to meet me. I hope he has his plane ticket, since I don’t think he can easily drive from where he is, to where I am, and still have time to meet me today.

On a more serious note. I am once again laughing, but no trophy this time because I hear you do not like trophies. But darn. I am confused how fixing a bike is the same as sending a friend request on social media. I don’t think SS has any rules about bike fixing, there are rules about social media.

[SoCoPony]

I would find it very strange indeed that a predator would pounce before stalking, but I am a flight animal and am conditioned to a certain response.

of course

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@Jealoushe

To be fair that profile does look incredibly fake. Might have nothing to do with the real JK considering the name isn’t correct. Doubt it was created for this situation and likely unrelated. JMO

Agreed. It may have been started and then abandoned… and sitting like that for a very long time. Many Linked In pages are incomplete and basically useless.

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@Virginia_Horse_Mom

CH. I think you really should stop with this personal obsession about me and my posts, and refocus on the topic.

2 questions for you.

1. Are you nervous that MB might get one significant step closer to release after today’s Krol hearing?

2. Do you think Lollypop is struggling right now, given the uncertainty her deposition, and the fact that Judge Weaver might rule to allow Deininger, Bilinkas and Silver all to GRILL her over her provocative actions leading up to the shooting?

Me personally? I think Lollypop is struggling and freaking out, and trying to comfort herself right now with denial, and probably focusing on trivial stuff. Sooner or later, the inevitable is going to happen. MB is going to be released, and Lollypop is going to have to take a turn in the hot seat.

@Virginia_Horse_Mom. I’m not obsessed with you.

Can you respond to the apparent fakeness of the LinkedIn profile that says Jonthan Kanarek of Livingston NJ is a Gambling and Casino Professional and nothing else? Can you explain how you failed to realize it was fake?

1. I’ve answered this. Based on what had been said and what hasn’t been said, I think it’s very unlikely MB will be released at this time.

2, The default at this time is that LK will have to answer questions on her provocations. If the Stone filing succeeds, she won’t have to. I don’t think the purpose of the filing is to lower LKs stress — that’s your narrative. The main purpose of the filing is to block one of MBs defenses.

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@Virginia_Horse_Mom

@Syrynx

I would love to think so, being the optimistic sort that I am.

But based on LO’s updates, how could they even assess if he’s not getting any treatment? So then would they just deny his release and say stay longer? For what purpose if he’s not getting treatment.

That whole situation just boggles my mind.

I’m assuming someone from Greystone will provide the court with a report regarding an assessment of MB, regardless of whether or not they are providing MB actual treatment. I would imagine this is somewhat a matter of CYA on Greystone’s part, since they have already been sued for not providing patients adequate treatment…

I think you are assuming too much from Greystone! How can they prepare a report for a hearing if they don’t treat or meet with the patients other than handing them pages from a coloring book to color?

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@trubandloki

But…

It is a very shiny trophy.

And her post made me laugh very hard.

~ snort ~

THAT ^ is not a trophy.

THIS is a trophy…

@trubandloki

Is this the same @Inigo-montoya who said he would meet me today to explain to me today why he thinks it is funny to make someone homeless?

It is not quite noon yet, so I guess he still has time to explain it, right? Though I am still waiting for him to tell me where he is going to meet me. I hope he has his plane ticket, since I don’t think he can easily drive from where he is, to where I am, and still have time to meet me today.

I hope you did not make lunch or dinner reservations anywhere…

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@Jealoushe

To be fair that profile does look incredibly fake. Might have nothing to do with the real JK considering the name isn’t correct. Doubt it was created for this situation and likely unrelated. JMO

Aside from the name being one letter off, and the reference to gambling, the only information is Livingston, NJ.

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

@Jealoushe

To be fair that profile does look incredibly fake. Might have nothing to do with the real JK considering the name isn’t correct. Doubt it was created for this situation and likely unrelated. JMO

I don’t think there are other Jonathan Kanareks in Livingston, NJ.

But… the topic of being a “gambling and casino professional” has been raised on these threads multiple times, and @Inigo-montoya hasn’t denied it. He hasn’t commented on it at all.

If the whole thing was 100% fake… don’t you think IM would have said so as soon as it came up?

If it is fake… ok. But… then we get right back to the question… what does JK do for a living? Where does the family money come from? It’s been years since JK worked for EF Hutton. He doesn’t seem to have practiced law in a meaningful way. There is ZERO other professional info out there for this guy… only this Linked In profile.

We already saw info on Kirby’s Linked In profile. She has a substantial resume, but has switched careers multiple times. I am not saying that to criticize her in any way, just to note it. Her career path is not one that could have resulted in an accumulation of wealth that is sufficient to support both her and JK’s retirement, as well as LKs riding related expenses over the last several years.

We know a little about LK’s professional history. She never graduated from college. She doesn’t have much of anything in the way of professional work experience. No Linked In profile or online resume anywhere. Soooo… it seems like the source of funds for maintaining her horses are be coming from someone else.

We know RG had minimal professional work history, and it seems he relies upon LK financially speaking.

Soooo… that brings us back to JK. It seems rational to presume that his career is the source of funds supporting all 6 horses LK currently has in boats in Loxahatchee, as well as her training, maintenance of the horses, etc.

Soooo… what exactly was JKs career path, that resulted in him being a multimillionaire, but is still 100% private? If he really is a “Gambling and Casino Professional” - it actually would make sense. He could have accumulated substantial winnings, in the millions, while having no online professional career history to speak of.

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@Virginia_Horse_Mom

@CurrentlyHorseless

Thank you for posting that.

How did you manage to find that?

The “profile” for Jonthan Kanarek does not come up when you search under JKs actual name, Jonathan Kanarek.

Aside from the name being misspelled, did it seem suspicious to you that what you’ve posted there is the entire profile— there is no education or work history, or connections, or skills?

It’s obviously a fake profile.

I wonder who posted it.

I have no idea if it’s a fake profile or not, and no reason to assume someone else posted it.

Why do you think someone would create a fake profile for JK on Linked In?

I think that’s a bit of a leap.

You think JK would create a LinkedIn profile with zero information other than “Independent Gambling and Casino Professional and spell his name incorrectly?

[endlessclimb]

Well, he did write “michael goodwin” in the document he gave to the attorney to file.

[trubandloki]

@CurrentlyHorseless

Can you respond to the apparent fakeness of the LinkedIn profile that says Jonthan Kanarek of Livingston NJ is a Gambling and Casino Professional and nothing else ? Can you explain how you failed to realize it was fake?

Can you explain how you failed to prove that it ACTUALLY is fake. I know you are theorizing it is.

I can say that I did not realize fake Linked In profiles is a thing. I mean why…

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

@CurrentlyHorseless

You think JK would create a LinkedIn profile with zero information other than “Independent Gambling and Casino Professional and spell his name incorrectly ?

I think one possibility is that Linked In itself probably has algorithms that pull in information from other electronic sources and databases related to people and various financial filings, and sometimes basic profiles with limited information are automatically generated. A minor misspelling in an autogenerated profile? That’s quite common.

Such is the nature of social media these days.

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@CurrentlyHorseless

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

@CurrentlyHorseless

Thank you for posting that.

How did you manage to find that?

The “profile” for Jonthan Kanarek does not come up when you search under JKs actual name, Jonathan Kanarek.

Aside from the name being misspelled, did it seem suspicious to you that what you’ve posted there is the entire profile— there is no education or work history, or connections, or skills?

It’s obviously a fake profile.

I wonder who posted it.

I have no idea if it’s a fake profile or not, and no reason to assume someone else posted it.

Why do you think someone would create a fake profile for JK on Linked In?

I think that’s a bit of a leap.

You think JK would create a LinkedIn profile with zero information other than “Independent Gambling and Casino Professional and spell his name incorrectly?

Meh. Typos and keyboard fumbles happen to everyone. Even to whoever started that page and just abandoned it.

That page means nothing.

[Jealoushe]

I haven’t given it that must thought honestly because I just don’t find JK that important.

I also don’t think him not answering means anything because a lot of people don’t answer questions if they find them not worth it or whatever.

I have no idea JKs thoughts motives or what he does in life but I do feel that profile isn’t real. I can’t see what the purpose of it would be at all to be honest.

So from a SM perspective I would be surprised if it was legit.