Michael Barisone/Lauren Kanarek Civil Suit

[Knights_Mom]

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@Knights_Mom

@DownYonder

@Knights_Mom

I have an umbrella policy through an insurance carrier who insures my cars and home. Would that be considered a personal umbrella policy or just an auto? I’m embarrassed to have to ask.
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Again, I have been away from the insurance world for some time, but personal umbrella policies don’t cover damage to your vehicle or property but instead are designed to help cover costs of injury to others or damage to someone else’s property once your auto or property insurance limits are reached.

Yes it’s for things like additional med coverage should the auto policy amount not cover the amount. But I have no idea if it would cover injury to another by gun.

It’s probably a good idea to read your policy. Some of those policies have an exclusion, esp. if you are criminally charged/found guilty. IOW, even if you are assaulted in your own home and shoot your attacker with your legally owned firearm, you may be charged depending on what state you are in and whether the DA is trying to push an “anti-gun” agenda (even for law-abiding citizens - a world view that is much more prevalent in some states and jurisdictions than in others).

So if you are charged and found guilty, your PUP may not pay and you may be forced to depend on your own assets to cover a judgement.

Thank you.

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@LiberalSnowflake

@ekat

I wonder how much money Lauren Kanarek and family would have to offer Michael Barisone, SGF, and Ruth Cox to settle and go away?

I don’t think the Kanarek family actually have enough money to settle for a man who’s well into his fourth year of incarceration/confinement, away from everything he holds dear.

No-one except the three (?) people who were present at the time of the shooting actually know what happened that day, one of whom was driven legally insane by the other two (and the Kanarek family).

We have since learned of the long term pre-planning by LK, RG and the Kanarek family to deliberately drive MB insane, because they documented and illegally recorded their efforts in the lead up to the shooting - and they have continued to publicly gloat and document.

In my opinion, their combined “wealth” doesn’t even touch the sides.

You forgot he shot her twice and she almost died (except RG stopped MB, LE showed up and started emergency life saving procedures, the EMTs came immediately, the medical facilities were close, her heart was restarted at least once, the thoracic surgeon was available) she lost about 50% of her blood, she has scars where her chest was opened, 12-18 inches from under her rib cage in the front around to the back and curving upwards, the length of her abdomen (where the length of the abdomen and the first attempt to open the chest gosh that is stem to stern), a collapsed lung, a destroyed breast implant and scarred breast from that surgery. I wonder what all I left out.

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@Bogey2

This makes me think you are disingenuous in your defense of the K’s. You are not really paying attention, just sort of trolling.

I’ve always said I didn’t think IM was JK. I think I was the last holdout. I pretty much accepted Seeker1 was KK but wasn’t certain. Now? I question both. There are so many alters on coth.

Disingenuous? That would be anyone saying there any reasonable doubt MB drove to the house to shoot LK. That or they aren’t paying attention.

Can’t really have disingenuous and not paying attention at the same time. I’m not in either category.

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@BigMama1

@hut-ho78

I don’t think @Inigo-montoya is JK.

He literally referred to LK as his child in his latest outbursts. Do you think he is Kirby? Or are you saying IM, who you previously found to be so reliable and credible, is now lying about being one of LK’s parents?

He said “your child.” Pay attention.

[Knights_Mom]

@hut-ho78

@LiberalSnowflake

@ekat

I wonder how much money Lauren Kanarek and family would have to offer Michael Barisone, SGF, and Ruth Cox to settle and go away?

I don’t think the Kanarek family actually have enough money to settle for a man who’s well into his fourth year of incarceration/confinement, away from everything he holds dear.

No-one except the three (?) people who were present at the time of the shooting actually know what happened that day, one of whom was driven legally insane by the other two (and the Kanarek family).

We have since learned of the long term pre-planning by LK, RG and the Kanarek family to deliberately drive MB insane, because they documented and illegally recorded their efforts in the lead up to the shooting - and they have continued to publicly gloat and document.

In my opinion, their combined “wealth” doesn’t even touch the sides.

You forgot he shot her twice and she almost died (except RG stopped MB, LE showed up and started emergency life saving procedures, the EMTs came immediately, the medical facilities were close, her heart was restarted at least once, the thoracic surgeon was available) she lost about 50% of her blood, she has scars where her chest was opened, 12-18 inches from under her rib cage in the front around to the back and curving upwards, the length of her abdomen (where the length of the abdomen and the first attempt to open the chest gosh that is stem to stern), a collapsed lung, a destroyed breast implant and scarred breast from that surgery. I wonder what all I left out.

That all she had to do was leave and not engage in a plot to finish the bastard?

Yeah, as always, you forget this.

[Unfforgettable]

Oops…my bad. Not enough caffeine yet. Will edit.

[Knights_Mom]

@Unfforgettable

Oops…my bad. Not enough caffeine yet. Will edit.

LOL No caffeine here also. What were we talking about?

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@Knights_Mom

@hut-ho78

@LiberalSnowflake

@ekat

I wonder how much money Lauren Kanarek and family would have to offer Michael Barisone, SGF, and Ruth Cox to settle and go away?

I don’t think the Kanarek family actually have enough money to settle for a man who’s well into his fourth year of incarceration/confinement, away from everything he holds dear.

No-one except the three (?) people who were present at the time of the shooting actually know what happened that day, one of whom was driven legally insane by the other two (and the Kanarek family).

We have since learned of the long term pre-planning by LK, RG and the Kanarek family to deliberately drive MB insane, because they documented and illegally recorded their efforts in the lead up to the shooting - and they have continued to publicly gloat and document.

In my opinion, their combined “wealth” doesn’t even touch the sides.

You forgot he shot her twice and she almost died (except RG stopped MB, LE showed up and started emergency life saving procedures, the EMTs came immediately, the medical facilities were close, her heart was restarted at least once, the thoracic surgeon was available) she lost about 50% of her blood, she has scars where her chest was opened, 12-18 inches from under her rib cage in the front around to the back and curving upwards, the length of her abdomen (where the length of the abdomen and the first attempt to open the chest gosh that is stem to stern), a collapsed lung, a destroyed breast implant and scarred breast from that surgery. I wonder what all I left out.

That all she had to do was leave and not engage in a plot to finish the bastard?

Yeah, as always, you forget this.

Should I add on all my posts “she should have left and he should not have shot her?” I repeat it so much, that and IANAL.

[Unfforgettable]

@hut-ho78

Should I add on all my posts “she should have left and he should not have shot her?” I repeat it so much, that and IANAL.

Should I add on all my posts “she should have left and he COULD NOT/WOULD NOT have shot her"?
There…fixed it for you. Can’t shoot somebody who isn’t there.

[Sdel]

@hut-ho78

Should I add on all my posts “she should have left and he should not have shot her?” I repeat it so much, that and IANAL.

Yes. But you should just add “if she would have left then she wouldn’t have been shot.”

It would not have been physically possible for him to have shot her if she had left, so no need to say the bolded. Adding the bolded is evidence of cognitive dissonance.

[DownYonder]

@DownYonder

@erinmeri

Apparently gun owner liability policies don’t exist,

There are several that provide coverage for various circumstances. I am familiar with US Lawshield and USCCA.

I am not sure they would apply in this case even if RC did have a policy with them as they are mainly focused on helping the insured if he/she is involved in a self defense shooting.

@Erinmeri - I totally forgot about Second Call Defense. They also provide legal assistance for self-defense shootings but also offer civil suit damage protection up to various limits (depending on the level of membership).

[Knights_Mom]

@hut-ho78

@Knights_Mom

@hut-ho78

@LiberalSnowflake

@ekat

I wonder how much money Lauren Kanarek and family would have to offer Michael Barisone, SGF, and Ruth Cox to settle and go away?

I don’t think the Kanarek family actually have enough money to settle for a man who’s well into his fourth year of incarceration/confinement, away from everything he holds dear.

No-one except the three (?) people who were present at the time of the shooting actually know what happened that day, one of whom was driven legally insane by the other two (and the Kanarek family).

We have since learned of the long term pre-planning by LK, RG and the Kanarek family to deliberately drive MB insane, because they documented and illegally recorded their efforts in the lead up to the shooting - and they have continued to publicly gloat and document.

In my opinion, their combined “wealth” doesn’t even touch the sides.

You forgot he shot her twice and she almost died (except RG stopped MB, LE showed up and started emergency life saving procedures, the EMTs came immediately, the medical facilities were close, her heart was restarted at least once, the thoracic surgeon was available) she lost about 50% of her blood, she has scars where her chest was opened, 12-18 inches from under her rib cage in the front around to the back and curving upwards, the length of her abdomen (where the length of the abdomen and the first attempt to open the chest gosh that is stem to stern), a collapsed lung, a destroyed breast implant and scarred breast from that surgery. I wonder what all I left out.

That all she had to do was leave and not engage in a plot to finish the bastard?

Yeah, as always, you forget this.

Should I add on all my posts “she should have left and he should not have shot her?” I repeat it so much, that and IANAL.

You left out she should never have engaged in a conspiracy to finish the bastard.

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@Sdel

@hut-ho78

Should I add on all my posts “she should have left and he should not have shot her?” I repeat it so much, that and IANAL.

Yes. But you should just add “if she would have left then she wouldn’t have been shot.”

It would not have been physically possible for him to have shot her if she had left, so no need to say the bolded. Adding the bolded is evidence of cognitive dissonance.

Ah. Blame the victim again.

[eggbutt]

Honestly, I don’t care what career Lauren Shay Kanarek had in earlier years or whether she has or had a sponsor or any kind, unless this sponsor, if there is one, was involved in the plans to destroy Michael Barisone. How she supported herself prior to the lawsuits is more than likely irrelevant, right?

[OntheFnce]

@hut-ho78

@Sdel

@hut-ho78

Should I add on all my posts “she should have left and he should not have shot her?” I repeat it so much, that and IANAL.

Yes. But you should just add “if she would have left then she wouldn’t have been shot.”

It would not have been physically possible for him to have shot her if she had left, so no need to say the bolded. Adding the bolded is evidence of cognitive dissonance.

Ah. Blame the victim again.

Did it ever occur to you that the victim is MB and the perpetrator is LK?

[eggbutt]

Every single day. Thank you for this reminder.

[Knights_Mom]

@hut-ho78

@Sdel

@hut-ho78

Should I add on all my posts “she should have left and he should not have shot her?” I repeat it so much, that and IANAL.

Yes. But you should just add “if she would have left then she wouldn’t have been shot.”

It would not have been physically possible for him to have shot her if she had left, so no need to say the bolded. Adding the bolded is evidence of cognitive dissonance.

Ah. Blame the victim again.

Yes. MB was victimized by LK before the shooting and you blame him for going into insanity. You even go so far as to blame a marriage that ended years prior.

[Sdel]

@hut-ho78

@Sdel

@hut-ho78

Should I add on all my posts “she should have left and he should not have shot her?” I repeat it so much, that and IANAL.

Yes. But you should just add “if she would have left then she wouldn’t have been shot.”

It would not have been physically possible for him to have shot her if she had left, so no need to say the bolded. Adding the bolded is evidence of cognitive dissonance.

Ah. Blame the victim again.

Nope, simple logic and being someone who understands that actions have consequences. Didn’t I see a text that acknowledged that things were going to get bad after an eviction?

[Knights_Mom]

You sure did.

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@Knights_Mom

@hut-ho78

@Knights_Mom

@hut-ho78

@LiberalSnowflake

@ekat

I wonder how much money Lauren Kanarek and family would have to offer Michael Barisone, SGF, and Ruth Cox to settle and go away?

I don’t think the Kanarek family actually have enough money to settle for a man who’s well into his fourth year of incarceration/confinement, away from everything he holds dear.

No-one except the three (?) people who were present at the time of the shooting actually know what happened that day, one of whom was driven legally insane by the other two (and the Kanarek family).

We have since learned of the long term pre-planning by LK, RG and the Kanarek family to deliberately drive MB insane, because they documented and illegally recorded their efforts in the lead up to the shooting - and they have continued to publicly gloat and document.

In my opinion, their combined “wealth” doesn’t even touch the sides.

You forgot he shot her twice and she almost died (except RG stopped MB, LE showed up and started emergency life saving procedures, the EMTs came immediately, the medical facilities were close, her heart was restarted at least once, the thoracic surgeon was available) she lost about 50% of her blood, she has scars where her chest was opened, 12-18 inches from under her rib cage in the front around to the back and curving upwards, the length of her abdomen (where the length of the abdomen and the first attempt to open the chest gosh that is stem to stern), a collapsed lung, a destroyed breast implant and scarred breast from that surgery. I wonder what all I left out.

That all she had to do was leave and not engage in a plot to finish the bastard?

Yeah, as always, you forget this.

Should I add on all my posts “she should have left and he should not have shot her?” I repeat it so much, that and IANAL.

You left out she should never have engaged in a conspiracy to finish the bastard.

Let’s see what is the best quote.

“Ruin her chances to compete.” MB in texts to MHG

“Scare her so she will beg to go-I’m very good at it, I’ve done it before” (also described by someone who left him earlier). MB in texts to MHG.

“He came to kill.” The judge in the first hearing and testimony by RG. There is a book title right there.