Michael/ Lauren civil trial update February 9

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

@CurrentlyHorseless

So, ladies, what are you predicting on the outcome of the next hearing before Taylor in six weeks?

Aaaaah. That’s an interesting change of subject.

Careful. Your mask is slipping again.

LOL. Who to you see when my mask slips?

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

@CurrentlyHorseless

I’ve only had an account for a bit over a year.

What I remember being “discussed” is that KK suffered a burglary and there was “speculation” that the theft was committed by RG or LK.

The rules of the forum are that you cannot accuse someone of a felony without referring to a public record of the criminal charge on that felony while remaining anonymous. @Moderator_1 can you clarify the rule?

Please cite the public record that LK was criminally charged with burglary, or edit your posts to remove the claim.

Don’t try to send me to look up the records. You’re the one making the claim. Such a claim not permitted to be made anonymously without documentation.

Most people with criminal records have an interest in getting their criminal charges expunged whether they’re going into civil litigation or creating a Tinder profile. Duh.

I can go back to the old threads at a later time, or comb through the NJ database.

But it’s 100% a FACT that LK was arrested for burglary in NJ in the mid aughts. Who she was burglaring and why, I don’t know. People did indeed speculate it was Kirby. I have no idea though. I just know that she was arrested, had to post a hefty bail, and it took years to close out the case.

She also was arrested for criminal trespass and communicating threats in NC. That seemed to have something to do with her ex husband… Jack. Apparently they had QUITE a contentious relationship.

[BrownDerby]

@cutter99

No one has had to paint LK as unsympathetic. She has been unsympathetic for quite some time. She can own that all on her own!

And a long time reputation for mental cruelty as well. GirlJoey for example.

[trubandloki]

@cutter99

@CurrentlyHorseless

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

@CurrentlyHorseless

I do not think the self defense claim will fly given by that he brought the gun to the scene. It didn’t fly at the criminal trial.

She was shot on SGF property with a gun provided by RC.

Isn’t it possible that:

1. He brought the gun to the scene
2. When he arrived on the scene, LK/RG tried to assault him… after all, they both have an EXTENSIVE record involving repeated assault charges
3. He then fired the gun he had on his person in self defense

I think that scenario is possible.

Question for you, CH

Are you operating on the assumption that all evidence and testimony regarding LK & RGs criminal pasts will be kept from the jury again during a civil trial? It seems like you are making that assumption.

The oft repeated theory of self defense is a variant of what you describe — MB brought the gun for some reason other than to attempt to kill then. There’s a confrontation, perhaps RG jumps MB (before or after MB brandishes the gun) and then MB uses the gun in self defense. (Was MB aiming at the scary ex-Marine, but accidentally pumped two bullets into LK? These proposed scenarios would need specifics.)

Even if MB shot in self defense at a moment when he feared his life was in danger, I think it will be hard to establish self defense when MB drove himself over there will a loaded gun.

Therefore, you should be working on a much more complicated scenario in which LK in her Ninjs costume stole the gun from the locked safe the night before (like all responsible gun owners, MB would pronounce the safes combination audibly and loudly every time he opens the safe to stash additional guns brought in from out of state illegally), and had the gun, along with her book, on the porch at the time she telepathically summoned MB that afternoon. MB, having been telepathically summoned, starts a polite conversation, RG or LK jumps him, and since LK was beating him about the head with her phone (despite having the gun), he grabs the gun and shots her.

Boy, I hope the trial is televised.

No, I am not operating under the assumption that negative information on LK and RG will be kept from the jury. I think MBs lawyers will bring the information in as much as they are allowed in order to paint the gun shot victim as unsympathetic, just as you are doing.

In my opinion, the various defendants should still be liable for for the injuries caused to a gun shot victim. Regardless of whether the victim is Simone Biles or Amber Heard.

No one has had to paint LK as unsympathetic. She has been unsympathetic for quite some time. She can own that all on her own!

Everyone has a skill set.

[eggbutt]

She knew he was going to be coming based on the sudden appearance of CPS due to her shenanigans. Plus, she had cameras and audio, remember? She’s the one who exclaimed just that morning, Finish the Bastard, and none of the recipients of that statement backed her down, did they? My speculation, of course.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@eggbutt

Tell us @CurrentlyHorseless, are you lobbying the Kanareks to show up as a long time character witness for the Princess?

LOL. Obviously not. I’ve never met LK.

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

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@Virginia_Horse_Mom

@CurrentlyHorseless

So, ladies, what are you predicting on the outcome of the next hearing before Taylor in six weeks?
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Aaaaah. That’s an interesting change of subject.

Careful. Your mask is slipping again.

LOL. Who to you see when my mask slips?

I see a person who is in deep denial with respect to how this is all going to end for LK.

[cutter99]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

@CurrentlyHorseless

What is the public record indicating she was criminally charged with burglary, VHM?

We all discussed it on a prior thread last year. It was easily looked up in the NJ court system database.

Did Papa successfully get it expunged? I heard he’s been busy with those efforts. It’s a common strategy for people who have lengthy criminal records going into civil litigation.

I’ve only had an account for a bit over a year.

What I remember being “discussed” is that KK suffered a burglary and there was “speculation” that the theft was committed by RG or LK.

The rules of the forum are that you cannot accuse someone of a felony without referring to a public record of the criminal charge on that felony while remaining anonymous. @Moderator_1 can you clarify the rule?

Please cite the public record that LK was criminally charged with burglary, or edit your posts to remove the claim.

Don’t try to send me to look up the records. You’re the one making the claim. Such a claim not permitted to be made anonymously without documentation.

Most people with criminal records have an interest in getting their criminal charges expunged whether they’re going into civil litigation or creating a Tinder profile. Duh.

It has been stated here repeatedly over the years what LK’s legal issues have been. It is not our jobs to bring you up to speed.

Nice try at calling the moderators in over nothing. We know you are trying to get the thread shut down.

We must have hit on something close to the heart today!

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

@trubandloki

Everyone has a skill set.

Lollypop is her own worst enemy. Always has been.

[Maria]

Ohhhh frick nevermind.

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

@cutter99

It has been stated here repeatedly over the years what LK’s legal issues have been. It is not our jobs to bring you up to speed.

Nice try at calling the moderators in over nothing. We know you are trying to get the thread shut down.

We must have hit on something close to the heart today!

If they are squirming this hard during a polite COTH discussion…

They aren’t even CLOSE to prepared for what is going to happen during the deposition, much less if Lauren ever takes the stand during a civil trial.

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

It’s gotta be his voice and accent.

[eggbutt]

[cutter99]

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

It’s gotta be his voice and accent.

Just no. No thank you!

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

C’mon. He’s sorta like Sean Connery in an old James Bond flick, hanging out at a Casino drinking martinis.

Except… he’s from New Jersey.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

@CurrentlyHorseless

I’ve only had an account for a bit over a year.

What I remember being “discussed” is that KK suffered a burglary and there was “speculation” that the theft was committed by RG or LK.

The rules of the forum are that you cannot accuse someone of a felony without referring to a public record of the criminal charge on that felony while remaining anonymous. @Moderator_1 can you clarify the rule?

Please cite the public record that LK was criminally charged with burglary, or edit your posts to remove the claim.

Don’t try to send me to look up the records. You’re the one making the claim. Such a claim not permitted to be made anonymously without documentation.

Most people with criminal records have an interest in getting their criminal charges expunged whether they’re going into civil litigation or creating a Tinder profile. Duh.

I can go back to the old threads at a later time, or comb through the NJ database.

But it’s 100% a FACT that LK was arrested for burglary in NJ in the mid aughts. Who she was burglaring and why, I don’t know. People did indeed speculate it was Kirby. I have no idea though. I just know that she was arrested, had to post a hefty bail, and it took years to close out the case.

She also was arrested for criminal trespass and communicating threats in NC. That seemed to have something to do with her ex husband… Jack. Apparently they had QUITE a contentious relationship.

Oh, you are now saying LK was “arrested” for burglary? Was she criminally charged with a felony? Was she convicted?

As you know, MB was charged with two accounts of attempted murder, but not convicted. It would not be appropriate, it would be defamatory, in fact, to say he had a “lengthy criminal record” including attempted murder given he was not convicted.

You did say that LK had a “long criminal record” that included burglary, right? That’s not accurate, and it violates forum rules, unless there is a public record of a conviction for burglary.

Are the instances of criminal trespass and communicating threats also arrests without convictions? Does the presumption of innocence apply only to people you find likeable and big name dressage trainers? I guess that would go along with your view that only likeable gun shot victims should be allowed to sue for damages.

[trubandloki]

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

much less if Lauren ever takes the stand during a civil trial.

Do you think they will go with caterpillars again?

[Paint_Party]

Oh, dear, sweet Truby…

[trubandloki]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

@CurrentlyHorseless

I’ve only had an account for a bit over a year.

What I remember being “discussed” is that KK suffered a burglary and there was “speculation” that the theft was committed by RG or LK.

The rules of the forum are that you cannot accuse someone of a felony without referring to a public record of the criminal charge on that felony while remaining anonymous. @Moderator_1 can you clarify the rule?

Please cite the public record that LK was criminally charged with burglary, or edit your posts to remove the claim.

Don’t try to send me to look up the records. You’re the one making the claim. Such a claim not permitted to be made anonymously without documentation.

Most people with criminal records have an interest in getting their criminal charges expunged whether they’re going into civil litigation or creating a Tinder profile. Duh.

I can go back to the old threads at a later time, or comb through the NJ database.

But it’s 100% a FACT that LK was arrested for burglary in NJ in the mid aughts. Who she was burglaring and why, I don’t know. People did indeed speculate it was Kirby. I have no idea though. I just know that she was arrested, had to post a hefty bail, and it took years to close out the case.

She also was arrested for criminal trespass and communicating threats in NC. That seemed to have something to do with her ex husband… Jack. Apparently they had QUITE a contentious relationship.

Oh, you are now saying LK was “arrested” for burglary? Was she criminally charged with a felony? Was she convicted?

As you know, MB was charged with two accounts of attempted murder, but not convicted. It would not be appropriate, it would be defamatory, in fact, to say he had a “lengthy criminal record” including attempted murder given he was not convicted.

You did say that LK had a “long criminal record” that included burglary, right? That’s not accurate, and it violates forum rules, unless there is a public record of a conviction for burglary.

Are the instances of criminal trespass and communicating threats also arrests without convictions? Does the presumption of innocence apply only to people you find likeable and big name dressage trainers? I guess that would go along with your view that only likeable gun shot victims should be allowed to sue for damages.

So, being arrested for this one incident = lengthy.

Does that mean that since Jonathan Kanarek @Inigo-montoya and Kirby Kanarek @Seeker1, who have now ignored their subpoenas twice have a lengthy history of ignoring the court?
I mean, theirs is two distinct happenings each, where all of Michael’s charges are from one thing.

Lengthy it is… Jonathan Kanarek and Kirby Kanarek have a lengthy history if ignoring the court, not following court orders, etc.

[eggbutt]

So pages and pages of arrests and charges mean nothing to you? Hell, I’m almost 73 years old and don’t have one blemish on my record! Not one little no-no! And I didn’t even have a “lawyer daddy” to make things disappear all my life!

Your criteria for judging criminal history is truly intriguing! During one of my careers I was charged with background checks on potential employees. Neither Lauren Kanarek nor Robert Goodwin would have made it past the front door with their lengthy records, with or without convictions. Again, @CurrentlyHorseless, you seem incredibly young and naive. Your ability to judge character seems to be sorely lacking.