Michael/ Lauren civil trial update February 9

I recall it being said she competed in either hunters or jumpers when she was younger. Dressage was a more recent pursuit for her.

She comes off to me as someone who is not all that comfortable around horses. But what do I know- I handle livestock all day long.

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I believe she has no USEF competitive record in anything prior to dressage. Maybe she showed at the unrecognized level.

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I hear you. I just was curious if someone following these threads actually knew for sure, and could say, “Oh yeah, she started riding as a teen at a lesson barn in NJ”

Or

“She definitely only started riding in NC in her 30’s, with her first horse, who is now retired there.”

Idle curiosity on my part -

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As of May 2022 MB is under temporary suspension. He is not banned. Go here and see for yourself… you have to type his name in the search bar.
https://uscenterforsafesport.org/response-and-resolution/centralized-disciplinary-database

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Agreed about the handling livestock thing.

Kids who actually lead around their own rascal ponies, and have to tie them to the side of a trailer while at summer schooling shows for local hunter jumper stuff… well, they tend to develop a slightly more robust set of livestock handling skills in the process, in my experience :slight_smile: I hope that makes sense.

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Well, geez. Don’t they know that all they have to do is bow to them and tell them to Halt-Halt? :upside_down_face:

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Nah… the mods are not going to shut this thread down…. Too much is coming out - and we the lurkers, posters who are here for collegial chat and more about an unsolved case in our sport on the highest level… so nah. That’s why we subscribe. So we can chat. So no. Let them sink their ship. It’s better than Netflix.

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Yeah. :rofl:

My kid’s bulldog of a small pony would drag her little behind all over the place if she bowed to it, and said “Halt Halt.”

Nope. We use a rope halter, a long shank, and my kid knows to pay attention and hold on tight at all times… because the pony is a food motivated little jerk. It WILL drag you over to thoroughly check out any unattended bucket that MIGHT contain grain, if it gets a head start.

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Sorry, thanks for the memory jog, my point was to agree-there was no victory on Bilinkas’ part–he made an error in not correcting/objecting to the jury instruction–and the court on appeal pointed that out. So both judge and defense attorney erred.

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Depositions of “all parties and fact witnesses” must be completed by March 3rd so hopefully they are working to get their stories together by then.

I think Dieninger and Silver will be able to manage their clients easily, unlike GAS who will be herding cats. Even if he is unaware of it at this time, he’ll find out soon enough. I hope he’s being paid well.

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February 17th is the date that the subpoenas must be answered, correct?

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But might there be a finding of contempt with respect to JK before then? I thought he was already court ordered to answer Silver’s 2nd subpoena… and he’s ignored it since late November

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No. Both of the subpoenas must be answered by the 17th February. It’s in the Jan 20th agreement filed by GAS.

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Correct. Both Kirby and Jonathan Kanarek were court ordered to answer the subpoenas 10 days after receipt. Both were served at the end of November. Both should have responded by mid December. But, here we are.

Feb 17th is when the court could rule on the Motions for Contempt/requests to compel.

Of course, those are the only subpoenas we know about right now because of the pending court actions.

Edited to fix mistyped December.

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Aaaah. I understand better now.

So don’t expect any news until the 17th.

:grimacing:

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GAS was just asking the court not to rule on the motions for contempt for one motion cycle.

GAS Req Adj Contempts 012023.pdf (258.7 KB)

Technically he’s not saying anything about whether or not anyone is going to answer the subpoenas yet.

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Well, that’s a given, considering the parties in question. :wink:

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Too true!

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So far GAS has not made any motion to quash the subpoenas either. His deadlines to respond are getting close too, are they not?

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Motions to quash should have been before that Dec 15th-ish date, when it was still Nagel. On Jan 3, GAS asked for a stay on the subpoenas until that case management conference on the 12th.

Whatever happened there, the motions for contempt were filed on the 18th, which brings us to his current delay on ruling on the motions.

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