Michael/ Lauren civil trial update February 9

Thank you for discussing it in a non condescending manner, Einhorn. I appreciate your input.

I have a very Euclidean mind, and I can’t deal with percents not adding to 1,0.

I think it will all become clear when the trial actually happens, and remain muddy when discussed in the abstract.

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I guess that depends on perspective.

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One might even go so far as to say…

He dodged a bullet.

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I like how he barely budged an inch.

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I thought my state did, but a lady I used to work with lived with a rather famous bluegrass musician for like 20 years. When he died she went to court over his estate and the court said a big no to her.

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I read your cut and paste the first time you posted it.

  1. On your last drawing, what changes if RG is legally considered LKs employee?
  2. If anything changes, what is the legal definition of “employee”?

Employee or not, if Lauren Kanarek directed another person to place the recorders or use the recordings, she is responsible.

The definition of employee doesn’t matter because that statute doesn’t say uses or procures an employee. It says, “uses or procures another person”…

Whether or not RG was her employee (he said he was) is a nice little sidebar, but it’s irrelevant under this statute.

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So whether he is or is not her employee does not matter.

Thank you.

You’re welcome.

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So that means it will be the subject of 300 more lengthy, pointless posts from one or two people on here.

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Even more fun - when I suggested to LaLa that she was damaging her own case with her own words and the specific rant she was on at the time… YankeeDuchess jumped all over me and said I was out of line to tell someone that! Which is a complete joke, as she sent me messages telling me how to post or - even better - not to post at all.

:roll_eyes:

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I am probably one of the posters who seem a bit disconnected, because there are several people on this thread whose posts I don’t see (until they pop up again and I have to refresh to get the ignore function working again.) I don’t usually look at a poster’s name before I respond, until I find myself responding to bizarre/juvenile posts.

I am interested in the legal aspects of the case (as well as horrified at the behavior of the Ks), but I’m not interested in the juvenile back and forth sniping between posters, neither those sympathetic to the Ks nor those not sympathetic to the Ks.

I try to be patient, and I hope you (in general) will be patient with me and understand if my posts seem a bit off. I try to make my responses linked to the posters I am addressing.

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@smoofox, it takes all kinds, doesn’t it?

And we see how that worked out for them!

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You do whatever works best for you Skydy.

FWIW, I think you are a sharp cookie and contribute a lot to the discussion.

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Thank you. That’s kind of you to say. :slightly_smiling_face:

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Spot looks like a Parti-Colored Cocker Spaniel to me.

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Googling said this:

Dick and Jane are the two main characters created by Zerna Sharp for a series of basal readers written by William S. Gray to teach children to read. The characters first appeared in the Elson-Gray Readers in 1930 and continued in a subsequent series of books through the final version in 1965.

The Cocker Spaniel was the most popular breed from the late 1930’s through the 1950’s.

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Yikes! I got an instant picture of treating a dog like a wishbone!

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Huh. I have a vague mental picture of a dog that was a little more leggy, but it has certainly been a long time since I saw any of those books. Or maybe the dog breed or look changed a bit over the years.

No, no! Both back legs on each dog! Lol.

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I found a bit more information.

In the very earliest books (the Elson-Gray readers) the characters were not yet fully identified. Siblings Dick and Jane had a sister, called Baby. Baby, of course, eventually becomes Sally. Their cat, Little Mew, eventually became Puff. The dog in the stories was a terrier. Later, the dog acquired a name, Spot, and became a cocker spaniel. Tim was the well-loved Teddy bear. And of course, Mother, Father, and Grandmother, and Grandfather all appeared in some of the stories.

William S. Gray (1885-1960) was among those who led the way for a new way of teaching literacy. Gray received a Ph.D. in education at the University of Chicago. He then became dean of the college of education at the University and eventually was chairperson of its teacher preparation committee (1933-45).

Interesting!

William Gray believed that by the time a child completed second grade, students needed phonics to sound out more complex words. In the leap to teaching “whole word,” it is not clear that school systems ever got the message about teaching phonics later.

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