Michael/ Lauren civil trial update February 9

[Knights_Mom]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@Knights_Mom

NJ on mold

“If you aren’t sure the work complies with local building codes rules, check with the local building code office before allowing the contractor to proceed”.

I wonder if MB did that, before allowing RG to proceed?

Did he have a written work order so MB could do so? Or was MB, a horse trainer, supposed to imagine what work needed to be done?

[Knights_Mom]

I wonder if that dryer was a gas dryer?

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Knights_Mom

@CurrentlyHorseless

@Knights_Mom

NJ on mold

“If you aren’t sure the work complies with local building codes rules, check with the local building code office before allowing the contractor to proceed”.

I wonder if MB did that, before allowing RG to proceed?

Did he have a written work order so MB could do so? Or was MB, a horse trainer, supposed to imagine what work needed to be done?

MB, as the one ordering the work and a partner in SGF, the owner of the structure, was supposed to check whether RG had a contractors license, had liability insurance, whether the proposed work was up to code, and make sure the required permits were pulled. If he had hired a licensed contractor, he could have delegated the pulling of the permits to RG.

Obvs.

[jvanrens]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@Knights_Mom

@CurrentlyHorseless

@Knights_Mom

NJ on mold

“If you aren’t sure the work complies with local building codes rules, check with the local building code office before allowing the contractor to proceed”.

I wonder if MB did that, before allowing RG to proceed?

Did he have a written work order so MB could do so? Or was MB, a horse trainer, supposed to imagine what work needed to be done?

MB, as the one ordering the work and a partner in SGF, the owner of the structure, was supposed to check whether RG had a contractors license, had liability insurance, whether the proposed work was up to code, and make sure the required permits were pulled. If he had hired a licensed contractor, he could have delegated the pulling of the permits to RG.

Obvs.

Or maybe your hero should have made sure he was licensed to perform work in NJ before being coerced by Lauren Shay Kanarek into doing all this work for MB to pay for her luxury pets that he also had to take care of?

[Knights_Mom]

Lauren Kanarek has posted here that RG performed $50,000 worth of work and that he is owed the money. We know this had been posted multiple times. If the statements made here today have been made with personal knowledge it would seem more than one item that requires a license may have been done by someone not licensed as a contractor. Under NJ law, when an unlicensed contractor asserts they are due monies for work they did absent the necessary license, the homeowner is due treble damages, and in this case means that RG and by involvement with brokering that (verbal contract according to statements here today), LK also has culpability to the tune of $150,000.

Tell me, were these done? Was that VERBAL contract you spoke of in compliance with law?

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Ambitious_Kate

It would have been correct “made further moot” but further made moot is not incorrect. I’m not exactly sure why. Mostly because “moot” is often used as an adjective “moot point” but can also stand alone, as in “made moot”. As in “was made soft, by the sun”. I don’t know much about that.

How can something be made “further moot”?

It’s either moot or it’s not.

If something is irrelevant or pointless, what sense does it make to say it’s “further irrelevant” or “further pointless”?

[Joanne]

@CurrentlyHorseless

I should have said: what objective information in the public record indicates the work was shoddy?

Perhaps it is the lack of information in the public information?

[Knights_Mom]

Clearly, compliance with law, compliance with depositions, compliance with subpoenas, compliance with decency is not something that was done by the plaintiff and associates in this case.

My opinion.

[MorganSercu]

Weren’t there photos shown in court of Rob’s handiwork?

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@jvanrens

Or maybe your hero should have made sure he was licensed to perform work in NJ before being coerced by Lauren Shay Kanarek into doing all this work for MB to pay for her luxury pets that he also had to take care of?

No. It’s on MB to hire a licensed contractor.

RG should not represent himself as a licensed contractor if he’s not licensed, and there’s no indication that RG misrepresented his status.

MB knowingly hired an unlicensed contractor to do unpermitted work. That’s on him.

[jvanrens]

@CurrentlyHorseless

MB knowingly hired an unlicensed contractor to do unpermitted work. That’s on him.

And you know this how? Were you there?

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Knights_Mom

Clearly, compliance with law, compliance with depositions, compliance with subpoenas, compliance with decency is not something that was done by the plaintiff and associates in this case.

My opinion.

It was MB who failed to comply with the building codes. That’s why he was evicted by the BD, not because of shoddy work.

[Knights_Mom]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@jvanrens

Or maybe your hero should have made sure he was licensed to perform work in NJ before being coerced by Lauren Shay Kanarek into doing all this work for MB to pay for her luxury pets that he also had to take care of?

No. It’s on MB to hire a licensed contractor.

RG should not represent himself as a licensed contractor if he’s not licensed, and there’s no indication that RG misrepresented his status.

MB knowingly hired an unlicensed contractor to do unpermitted work. That’s on him.

Failure to provide the written documents as provided by law is all on RG.

Care for me to dig deeper on your statement of work RG did, according to you, an outsider with allegedly no personal knowledge?

[BrownDerby]

@eggbutt

Obviously the subject is being redirected to the magnificent effort Robert Guy Goodwin did or didn’t do, rather than the questions being asked about the real reasons for the Kanarek’s incredible efforts to delay the suits they, themselves brought. GAS really does need to take a hard look at all the actual evidence the defense has, or does he not have access to the same information?

It’s so weird. Why has this thread hamster-wheeled back to Superman and $50K?

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Knights_Mom

@CurrentlyHorseless

@jvanrens

Or maybe your hero should have made sure he was licensed to perform work in NJ before being coerced by Lauren Shay Kanarek into doing all this work for MB to pay for her luxury pets that he also had to take care of?

No. It’s on MB to hire a licensed contractor.

RG should not represent himself as a licensed contractor if he’s not licensed, and there’s no indication that RG misrepresented his status.

MB knowingly hired an unlicensed contractor to do unpermitted work. That’s on him.

Failure to provide the written documents as provided by law is all on RG.

Care for me to dig deeper on your statement of work RG did, according to you, an outsider with allegedly no personal knowledge?

It’s the responsibility of the owner of the structure to check if the contractor is licensed, check if he has violations on record, check that he has liability insurance, and check that the proposed work is consistent with the building code, exactly as the snippets you’ve posted state.

If RG failed to provide whatever written document, MB should not have proceeded. MB was the principal.

[Knights_Mom]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@Knights_Mom

@CurrentlyHorseless

@jvanrens

Or maybe your hero should have made sure he was licensed to perform work in NJ before being coerced by Lauren Shay Kanarek into doing all this work for MB to pay for her luxury pets that he also had to take care of?

No. It’s on MB to hire a licensed contractor.

RG should not represent himself as a licensed contractor if he’s not licensed, and there’s no indication that RG misrepresented his status.

MB knowingly hired an unlicensed contractor to do unpermitted work. That’s on him.

Failure to provide the written documents as provided by law is all on RG.

Care for me to dig deeper on your statement of work RG did, according to you, an outsider with allegedly no personal knowledge?

It’s the responsibility of the owner of the structure to check if the contractor is licensed, check if he has violations on record, check that he has liability insurance, and check that the proposed work is consistent with the building code, exactly as the snippets you’ve posted state.

If RG failed to provide whatever written document, MB should not have proceeded. MB was the principal.

Wrong. In no universe is it the burden of the homeowner to make sure the contractor complies with the law.

[smoofox]

@pmysliwski

PSA continuation - here’s the address of the Crumbl I went to: 2160 Sir Barton Way Ste. 141, Lexington, KY 40509

Ever since I was at Keeneland for the Breeders Cup last November, I have toyed with the idea of eventually moving to Lexington. Racing all around me… streets named after horses… I loved it there.

@Unfforgettable

Interesting logic (or lack thereof). Yet LK and RG seemed to think they were allowed anywhere, including MB’s office and private spaces.

Of course they were. No rules or manners or decorum of any kind applied to them - nothing! They made that very clear. When you are 5D chess grandmasters, you can do anything you damn well please!

@BrownDerby

@eggbutt

Obviously the subject is being redirected to the magnificent effort Robert Guy Goodwin did or didn’t do, rather than the questions being asked about the real reasons for the Kanarek’s incredible efforts to delay the suits they, themselves brought. GAS really does need to take a hard look at all the actual evidence the defense has, or does he not have access to the same information?

It’s so weird. Why has this thread hamster-wheeled back to Superman and $50K?

Because it is the Circle of Life… in LK Threads. These threads are often redirected to spin in endless circles about what NGRI means, how evil MHG was and how all of MB’s relationships impacted everything, RG’s amazing Superman contractor skills, the $50,000 amazing job that did not in fact exist, the eviction notice that was never served/LK was never ever asked to leave… etc. etc.

Lather, rinse, repeat.

[Knights_Mom]

Everyone else can conversate on the more recent relevant topics while I deal with the distraction.

[hut-ho78]

@Knights_Mom

@hut-ho78

@Knights_Mom

@hut-ho78

Right. Smoke alarms. I thought just battery smoke alarms were in ordinary maintenance but yes wired smoke alarms can also be replaced as ordinary maintenance.

$50,000 worth of smoke alarms.

In the words of the phenomenal Judge Judy, don’t pee on my leg and tell me it’s raining.

Water damage required removal of Sheetrock, any paneling, insulation, all flooring with the possible exception of tile, drying, treating for mold, replacing flooring, insulation, Sheetrock or paneling, cabinets, replacing or upgrading fixtures such as lights, smoke alarms, sinks, tubs, showers, dishwashers, washer.& dryer, etc.

Removal of the water ruined floors, walls, cabinets, and furniture and treating for mold is quite a job in itself.

Are you sure you want to assign all these actions to RG the unlicensed contractor? Are you speaking on behalf of LK? Do you have personal knowledge all these actions were performed by the unlicensed contractor? Did LK arrange these repairs to be done by an unlicensed contractor?

Are you saying all $50,000 worth of repairs were done by the unlicensed contractor? Do also explain why no written invoice, work order or itemized bill exists?

Tenant. “Repair and deduct” agreement with the owner where they physically worked together. Ordinary maintenance. RG was not hired as a contractor.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Knights_Mom

@CurrentlyHorseless

@Knights_Mom

@CurrentlyHorseless

@jvanrens

Or maybe your hero should have made sure he was licensed to perform work in NJ before being coerced by Lauren Shay Kanarek into doing all this work for MB to pay for her luxury pets that he also had to take care of?

No. It’s on MB to hire a licensed contractor.

RG should not represent himself as a licensed contractor if he’s not licensed, and there’s no indication that RG misrepresented his status.

MB knowingly hired an unlicensed contractor to do unpermitted work. That’s on him.

Failure to provide the written documents as provided by law is all on RG.

Care for me to dig deeper on your statement of work RG did, according to you, an outsider with allegedly no personal knowledge?

It’s the responsibility of the owner of the structure to check if the contractor is licensed, check if he has violations on record, check that he has liability insurance, and check that the proposed work is consistent with the building code, exactly as the snippets you’ve posted state.

If RG failed to provide whatever written document, MB should not have proceeded. MB was the principal.

Wrong. In no universe is it the burden of the homeowner to make sure the contractor complies with the law.

Of course the fault is on the homeowner if the homeowner instructs and pays the contractor to perform renovations that violate the building code. As MB did.