Michael/ Lauren civil trial update February 9

[trubandloki]

@CurrentlyHorseless

MB, as the one ordering the work and a partner in SGF,

In all cases I have encountered, the remediation work is done by a company picked by the insurance company. The insurance company wants that work done immediately.

Since Michael was out of town when the damage happened it makes perfect sense (I know, logic has no place with some of you) that he would have let the insurance company use whatever remediation company that they felt would do the work best.

@BrownDerby

It’s so weird. Why has this thread hamster-wheeled back to Superman and $50K?

Me!
Pick Me!
I can answer this!
Because some posters do not want us talking about the facts, or lack of facts, in the latest filing by GAS and how Jonathan Kanarek @Inigo-montoya and his wife Kirby Kanarek @Seeker1 have once again ignored their discovery subpoenas in the civil case that Lauren Kanarek filed.

@hut-ho78

Tenant. “Repair and deduct” agreement with the owner where they physically worked together. Ordinary maintenance

Oh Hut, did you miss my post where I explained that even the Kanarek side of this situation has not claimed this happened? Even Robert Guy Goodwin/Jim E Stark/Superman/Michael Goodwin doesn’t say this happened.

How are we to believe your Google law degree when it does not even agree with what the people you are supporting say happened?

@hut-ho78

Flood damage emergency repairs after hurricanes and freezing damage especially in the south where homes are constructed for heat not cold overwhelms local contractors and the good and bad out of town contractors. Repairs can wait for months on contractors, supply chains, funding for supplies. Homeowners, families, friends, tenants, neighbors, church groups, and other organizations all organize to make repairs.

Was there some natural disaster in NJ when the pipes broke that the rest of us do not know about?

#jonathankanarek
#kirbykanarek
#laurenkanarek
#lalapoprider
#liars
#contempt

[Knights_Mom]

@hut-ho78

@Knights_Mom

@hut-ho78

More on tenant rights in New Jersey.

(Unmitigated water damage in the structure would affect air quality in the unit.)

https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/free-books/renters-rights-book/chapter7-2.html

Again, not applicable in this situation with these circumstances

It’s ok KM, I’m sure you will understand it in at least 3 years if I keep repeatedly posting going by how long it took you to understand the 3 day emergency eviction in New Jersey.

Have a day!

[eggbutt]

Appropriate for the moment and to recognize the passing of a master, Burt Bacharach

Walk on By

[trubandloki]

@Knights_Mom

Again, not applicable in this situation with these circumstances

It just goes to show you that a Google Law Degree is only worth even less than every penny that was spent on it.

[trubandloki]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@eggbutt

@Inigo-montoya, or someone using his login, must really be concerned about the recent filings and expected responses. Why would this individual, and his spouse, continue to monitor this thread so frequently? Do they still hope and believe insiders are posting and will slip up and post something new? I guess they don’t realize the season is peaking in FL and anyone super close to the situation, other than the attorneys, are at the shows! The rest of us are simply entertaining ourselves with a game of and while waiting for the snow to begin!

I have also wondered why IM and Seeker are signing in to monitor the thread without posting.

I greatly doubt that they are hoping to mine insider information, or any information.

You, and especially @trubandkoki, have made much of IM and Seekers participation on these threads. My guess is that the IM and Seeker accounts are being used to gather documentation on the flow of disinformation and the harassment directed toward IM and Seeker and LK in order to provide “context” for their own participation here.

If the participation of IM and Seeker on these threads is relevant for the trial, so is yours.

Oh @CurrentlyHorseless, I be sad.

You are a master tagger and you messed up on your tag of my user name.

#jonathankanarek
#kirbykanarek
#laurenkanarek
#lalapoprider
#liars
#contempt

[trubandloki]

@hut-ho78

Please do not edit others posts even when you claim bolded. It is confusing to the reader as to who posted.

It makes perfect sense to me.
Like was posted, the bold parts were added by that poster.
Pretty simple.

Please do not post fake facts in the thread. That is far better advice.

[trubandloki]

@hut-ho78

It’s ok KM, I’m sure you will understand it in at least 3 years if I keep repeatedly posting going by how long it took you to understand the 3 day emergency eviction in New Jersey

I think your Google Law Degree is failing you again!

[smoofox]

Those who seem to think that RG did actually do $50,000 worth of work (as per LK) obviously do not watch any renovation shows of any kind. The paltry little bits of whatever RG may have fussed at are not worth $50,000. A complete bathroom overhaul can start at $8,000 - $10,000. A kitchen gut job with all the bells and whistles that I am sure an astounding contractor like Michael Goodwin, Esq. can surely provide might start around there.

Kindly show us evidence of this amazing $50,000 reno done by Jim E. Stark - quartz countertops? Cool backsplash? High end appliances? Island with waterfall quartz or granite?

@CurrentlyHorseless

@eggbutt

@Inigo-montoya, or someone using his login, must really be concerned about the recent filings and expected responses. Why would this individual, and his spouse, continue to monitor this thread so frequently? Do they still hope and believe insiders are posting and will slip up and post something new? I guess they don’t realize the season is peaking in FL and anyone super close to the situation, other than the attorneys, are at the shows! The rest of us are simply entertaining ourselves with a game of and while waiting for the snow to begin!

I have also wondered why IM and Seeker are signing in to monitor the thread without posting.

I greatly doubt that they are hoping to mine insider information, or any information.

You, and especially @trubandkoki, have made much of IM and Seekers participation on these threads. My guess is that the IM and Seeker accounts are being used to gather documentation on the flow of disinformation and the harassment directed toward IM and Seeker and LK in order to provide “context” for their own participation here.

“Context”? All their participation here has been ill-advised and often completely false. All their participation here has been of their own doing - apparently they want to sabotage their own case - that is the context. They jumped in, stirred the pot, made some absurd claims repeatedly… and were bound to get pushback - that is not harassment.

I do not think that word means what you think it means - in this context.

[DownYonder]

@Kyrabee

@CurrentlyHorseless

They all know perfectly well that MB shot LK.

No, I do not know any such thing. Any material evidence? Gun shot residue on hands or clothing, fingerprints on the gun…one could go on and on. It was basically she said. I really have no idea how or who shot her. She definitely was shot…that is all I know for sure.

And I, for one, am not going to base my opinion of what happened on the statements of two lying, drug addict serial grifters who had made it their mission to destroy MB no matter what it took.

If I were a citizen of that community, I would be livid at that pathetic excuse of a police investigation and equally pathetic effort by the DA’s office to notch a quick win.

Show me the forensics.

[cheval_convert]

My husband and I did a complete rehab on a cottage. This included hiring a roofer for the new roof, hiring someone to put in a new kitchen, hiring someone to put in vinyl plank flooring throughout the first floor, taping and joint coupounding every seam in every ceiling that had been damaged from the leaking roof, running new electical for the new stove, running some new plumbing as we re-arranged the kitchen, all new fixtures in the bathroom, fixing all of the walls from water damage, fixing all of the windows (we only had to replace 4), replacing the slider with one that is rated for hurricane force winds, painting the whole interior, and furnishing much of the house - total cost, about $35,000. (Maybe Michael should have hired us.)

[cutter99]

@hut-ho78

@FitzE

@IPEsq

It’s soooo strange that the plaintiff and parties related to the plaintiff are trying to delay so much.

So much this! I’ve never heard of such nonsense particularly from the family of the plaintiff. It’s so rare that it strongly suggests something is seriously wrong plaintiff side. No other reasonable explanation.

I don’t know what y’all think these are delaying tactics. The ones I had to represent my employer on were between 15 and 20 years of back and forth and retrials. It hasn’t yet even been a year since the close of the criminal trial and somewhere in google I read that New Jersey just streamlined it’s civil trials to speed them up to an average of two years time.

I don’t see the parents as 3rd parties delaying the trial by their efforts to avoid being harassed by the defense attorneys.

So @hut-ho78, you claim not to be an attorney, but yet you state in this post that you “represented” your employer in “back and forth” and retrials???

Why would someone who is not an attorney be representing an employer in court, excluding bad judgement of the employer to not be represented by an actual attorney???

[jvanrens]

@hut-ho78

@Knights_Mom

@hut-ho78

More on tenant rights in New Jersey.

(Unmitigated water damage in the structure would affect air quality in the unit.)

https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/free-books/renters-rights-book/chapter7-2.html

Again, not applicable in this situation with these circumstances

It’s ok KM, I’m sure you will understand it in at least 3 years if I keep repeatedly posting going by how long it took you to understand the 3 day emergency eviction in New Jersey.

You really don’t understand how an emergency remediation company works do you, as evidenced by your post, which had nothing to do with emergency eviction?! How did you go from air quality to eviction?

[Sdel]

@jvanrens

You really don’t understand how an emergency remediation company works do you, as evidenced by your post, which had nothing to do with emergency eviction?! How did you go from air quality to eviction?

Someone is upset that they got schooled and is trying to deflect to a completely unrelated argument (that they also didn’t win).

[cutter99]

@Unfforgettable

@hut-ho78

I also found it interesting that a landlord cannot enter a tenant’s area without permission in a residential lease. RC should not have entered their apartment.

At what point did RC have any ownership or landlord portion of SGF?

Actually if you go by what @CurrentlyHorseless and @hut-ho78 are claiming as LK and RG “rights” to be anywhere at anytime on Hawthorne Hill because they were “tenants”, you could extrapolate that RC has every right in the world to be in that house because she had a horse boarded there for training, so that made her a tenant with the same rights as LK and RG.

If it is good for the goose, it is good for the gander!

[jvanrens]

This is true. I work for a general contractor and a remediation company, so I have a bit of a clue how these things work, on one end. The legal gurus fill in the rest thankfully, but even I can see the huge gaping holes I could easily drive a truck through in some of the odd ball deflections.

[roseymare]

@hut-ho78

freezing damage especially in the south

New Jersey is now the south?

[cutter99]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@erinmeri

@MHM

I’m not sure you’re in the minority there.

But it’s hard to know for sure. Maybe somebody could post a poll.Lol.

Agreed!! And yes! Someone post a poll. But, according to this poster everyone here believes that Michael didn’t shoot Lauren. I staunchly disagree… for myself at least!

I think that “everyone here” understands perfectly well that Michael Barisone shot Lauren. Michael Barisone understands that he shot Lauren.

Is this another movie in your head or can you still not read the room correctly? Ah, but alas, you are the poster that cannot understand how “likes” work, so let’s try to explain this to you one more time, plain as day.

You and your cohort @hut-ho78 are in the minority as far as what you choose to believe. Please see the definition for “minority” below.

Definition of MINORITY

[Sdel]

@cutter99

@Unfforgettable

@hut-ho78

I also found it interesting that a landlord cannot enter a tenant’s area without permission in a residential lease. RC should not have entered their apartment.

At what point did RC have any ownership or landlord portion of SGF?

Actually if you go by what @CurrentlyHorseless and @hut-ho78 are claiming as LK and RG “rights” to be anywhere at anytime on Hawthorne Hill because they were “tenants”, you could extrapolate that RC has every right in the world to be in that house because she had a horse boarded there for training, so that made her a tenant with the same rights as LK and RG.

If it is good for the goose, it is good for the gander!

It also sounds like RC spent quite a bit of time at HH. Who is to say she wasn’t a tenant as well? She was clearly invited by Barisone to stay on the farm while her horses were being trained.

[jvanrens]

@Sdel

It also sounds like RC spent quite a bit of time at HH. Who is to say she wasn’t a tenant as well?

Well, she was paying the board for DD, so one would assume so based on certain posters logic.

[Sdel]

@jvanrens

@Sdel

It also sounds like RC spent quite a bit of time at HH. Who is to say she wasn’t a tenant as well?

Well, she was paying the board for DD, so one would assume so based on certain posters logic.

And if LK didn’t have a lease, only a “verbal agreement”, but was still a tenant, who is to say RC didn’t have her own verbal agreements about tenancy. I can see how it might not have ever come up….it’s not exactly relevant.