Michael/ Lauren civil trial update February 9

[eggbutt]

Thank you!

[Sdel]

@CurrentlyHorseless

I am an apartment dweller and I have renters insurance, but only because my landlord required I purchase it as a condition of my written lease. If my landlord had not required it, I would not have bought the insurance, because I don’t have property worth stealing.

Do you think that MB required LK to take out renters insurance (it’s actually quite cheap) when he didn’t bother with a written lease? I think LK probably did not have renters insurance.

So. Y’all are sloppy business people too. Pot, kettle. Good to know you hold yet another double standard.

[eggbutt]

If the SoL is 5 years in NJ and the civil trials show RG & Co committed crimes, can/will charges be brought against those individuals? Could that be another reason for these ridiculous delays by the person(s) who brought the original suit?

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Knights_Mom

@CurrentlyHorseless

@Sdel

@CurrentlyHorseless

LOL. Dog bite claims are usually paid by the liability insurance policy associated with the dwelling.

Did SGF have liability insurance for the farmhouse? I wonder what law firm represents their insurance company.

A property owner isn’t responsible for their tenant’s dog except possibly if the attack was in “a common area” and there was knowledge of the viciousness and no attempt to remove. A room mate isn’t responsible for another room mate’s dog. I thought this attack was supposed to have happened in Lauren Kanarek and RG’s rooms. So, their liability.

And speaking of liability insurance, where is LK’s renters insurance in all this mess? Did she have any? Aren’t they responsible for the dog bite? Did they pay out for the expensive things she claimed were stolen?

Did the dog bite occur inside LKs apartment? If so, it would appear RC was trespassing.

I am an apartment dweller and I have renters insurance, but only because my landlord required I purchase it as a condition of my written lease. If my landlord had not required it, I would not have bought the insurance, because I don’t have property worth stealing.

Do you think that MB required LK to take out renters insurance (it’s actually quite cheap) when he didn’t bother with a written lease? I think LK probably did not have renters insurance.

If it is LKs liability, apparently RCs lawyer advised her not to try to sue the person who sustained serious injuries from RCs gun, which RC illegally brought into the state, and let out of her control.

It didn’t occur in a private area but even if it did you’re wrong as officials were directing everything in pursuit of the violations filed by the grifter occupants.

Here’s another nugget for you to gnaw on: if a tenant reports a violation and the inspector sees a danger the occupant can be forced to immediately vacate even as a result of their own complaint.

That dog bit like 4 people that day, one of those people a cop bitten in the line of duty. I love dogs but this one is not able to be controlled and should have been taken away and euthanized.

Your LL who is smart wanted you to have insurance for LIABILITY reasons, not because of your possessions. That’s why car insurance is mandatory for LIABILITY. Insurance that fixes or replaces a car is by choice. Liability is not.

Please see bolded sentence in Sdel’s post saying she thought the bite occurred in “LK and RGs rooms”.

Yes, I know my landlord wants me to have liability insurance. However, the insurance on my possessions protects him if they are stolen and I were to claim that the apartment was not secure. My having insurance takes some of the burden of his insurance.

[Knights_Mom]

BTW dog bite law is pretty extreme.

If your dog is leashed on your property and some kid trespasses and gets bitten you are liable.

By all accounts NJ should have euthanized that dog. And LK should be getting sued by every person who got bitten.

Also note that personal injury cases are very very often dog bite cases. PI attorneys find them their bread and butter.

[Knights_Mom]

@eggbutt

If the SoL is 5 years in NJ and the civil trials show RG & Co committed crimes, can/will charges be brought against those individuals? Could that be another reason for these ridiculous delays by the person(s) who brought the original suit?

They can, yes.

Will they? In the absence of corruption or unfair favoritism they can be.

[eggbutt]

I wonder if the dog has bitten more people since August 7, 2019?

[Knights_Mom]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@Knights_Mom

@CurrentlyHorseless

@Sdel

@CurrentlyHorseless

LOL. Dog bite claims are usually paid by the liability insurance policy associated with the dwelling.

Did SGF have liability insurance for the farmhouse? I wonder what law firm represents their insurance company.

A property owner isn’t responsible for their tenant’s dog except possibly if the attack was in “a common area” and there was knowledge of the viciousness and no attempt to remove. A room mate isn’t responsible for another room mate’s dog. I thought this attack was supposed to have happened in Lauren Kanarek and RG’s rooms. So, their liability.

And speaking of liability insurance, where is LK’s renters insurance in all this mess? Did she have any? Aren’t they responsible for the dog bite? Did they pay out for the expensive things she claimed were stolen?

Did the dog bite occur inside LKs apartment? If so, it would appear RC was trespassing.

I am an apartment dweller and I have renters insurance, but only because my landlord required I purchase it as a condition of my written lease. If my landlord had not required it, I would not have bought the insurance, because I don’t have property worth stealing.

Do you think that MB required LK to take out renters insurance (it’s actually quite cheap) when he didn’t bother with a written lease? I think LK probably did not have renters insurance.

If it is LKs liability, apparently RCs lawyer advised her not to try to sue the person who sustained serious injuries from RCs gun, which RC illegally brought into the state, and let out of her control.

It didn’t occur in a private area but even if it did you’re wrong as officials were directing everything in pursuit of the violations filed by the grifter occupants.

Here’s another nugget for you to gnaw on: if a tenant reports a violation and the inspector sees a danger the occupant can be forced to immediately vacate even as a result of their own complaint.

That dog bit like 4 people that day, one of those people a cop bitten in the line of duty. I love dogs but this one is not able to be controlled and should have been taken away and euthanized.

Your LL who is smart wanted you to have insurance for LIABILITY reasons, not because of your possessions. That’s why car insurance is mandatory for LIABILITY. Insurance that fixes or replaces a car is by choice. Liability is not.

Please see bolded sentence in Sdel’s post saying she thought the bite occurred in “LK and RGs rooms”.

Yes, I know my landlord wants me to have liability insurance. However, the insurance on my possessions protects him if they are stolen and I were to claim that the apartment was not secure. My having insurance takes some of the burden of his insurance.

You can argue ten ways to Sunday: LK is 100% culpable for the dog bites even if it happened in her undies drawer. And if I should fall in your apartment you are likely liable unless an apartment defect caused it. But if I tripped and fell over your life-size blow up Yogi Bear doll, you are culpable.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Sdel

@CurrentlyHorseless

I am an apartment dweller and I have renters insurance, but only because my landlord required I purchase it as a condition of my written lease. If my landlord had not required it, I would not have bought the insurance, because I don’t have property worth stealing.

Do you think that MB required LK to take out renters insurance (it’s actually quite cheap) when he didn’t bother with a written lease? I think LK probably did not have renters insurance.

So. Y’all are sloppy business people too. Pot, kettle. Good to know you hold yet another double standard.

What?

As a tenant myself with minimal possessions, I would not carry renters insurance unless required to do so.

If I were the owner of the house or apartment building with millions of dollars at risk and was renting it out to others, I would absolutely require renters insurance. The renters insurance paid by the renter benefits the landlord.

[Knights_Mom]

@eggbutt

I wonder if the dog has bitten more people since August 7, 2019?

If it has, the fact that LK knew the dogs bite history would be HUGE in obtaining a big ole judgment.

[eggbutt]

I wonder if the dog is still alive? I’ve forgotten if her age at the time was ever revealed.

[I_dratherbe]

@hut-ho78

His testimony did not seem to encompass the items you describe.

Yes, it did. Go back and listen again. Fans and dehumidifiers, and removal of drywall and insulation are specifically mentioned. It is very clear from his testimony that all of the necessary removal of drywall and insulation, etc. had been done long before RG appeared on the property in 2019.

[Jenerationx]

Nope… totally different. Mississippi mud pie has a flourless cake or brownie base in a graham or pie crust with chocolate pudding and whipped cream on top.

Mississippi mud cake is chocolate cake with marshmallows on top and chocolate frosting drizzled over… sometimes with nuts added.

[Knights_Mom]

This law was violated. Note the language says MUST not may. The police violated this law which makes me wonder why and speculate on further collusion.

[Jenerationx]

@FitzE

This. Has any LK supporter come up with a reasonable explanation for this? And, no, ‘it’s harassment’ is a non-starter. The Ks have bragged and threatened and indulged in making their trademark (what they think are clever) innuendoes all over Hell and creation based on these ‘solid gold’ recordings containing ‘bomb shells’, etc.

So why are they suddenly willing to flout the law and court contempt charges - anything, just don’t make us produce what we’ve been publicly bragging about and promising to produce for years?

It is mind boggling that the recordings they all claimed would be such an eye opening experience containing murder plots and all have not surfaced yet. You would think that they would want everyone to hear them. My guess is that they are damning, but not for Michael. There is no plausible reason I can come up with for not producing the recordings.

[Knights_Mom]

Dog bites in New Jersey are covered by New Jersey Statutes section 4:19-16. The statute makes the dog’s owner liable for any dog bite injuries that occur when the person bitten is in a private place or lawfully in a public place, regardless of any prior indications of viciousness of the dog, or the owners’ knowledge of any former viciousness.

New Jersey’s dog bite statute is a “strict liability” statute. This means that a biting dog’s owner is liable for injuries caused by the dog bite, even if he or she used reasonable care to restrain the dog or to protect or warn others. In other words, when a person who is bitten by a dog in New Jersey, he or she does not need to prove that the dog’s owner was careless or negligent. All that needs to be proven is that the bite occurred.

Any domestic animal that scratches or bites a human in the State of New Jersey must be placed in a 10 day quarantine at the owner’s expense. At the end of the 10 days the Animal Control Officer or Health Officer shall evaluate the animal and determine if the animal is healthy.

[BigMama1]

@CurrentlyHorseless

What?

As a tenant myself with minimal possessions, I would not carry renters insurance unless required to do so.

Renters insurance doesn’t just cover your possessions. It covers damage to the apartment, for example if you leave a pot of oil on the stove and it catches fire. The landlord’s insurance company will reimburse the landlord , but you can be damn sure they insurance company will then come after you directly (or your insurance company) to recoup their loss

[Knights_Mom]

It also covers liability and negligence from something like a slip and fall for instance.

[Sdel]

@CurrentlyHorseless

Please see bolded sentence in Sdel’s post saying she thought the bite occurred in “LK and RGs rooms”.

Please don’t put words in my mouth about where this bite happened. It’s very dishonest. I’ve been pretty clear that the only source to claim a specific location for this bite comes from those who have admitted they are engaging in a smear campaign and have a motivation to twist the truth or outright lie. And in fact are currently hiding evidence (they claim it was recorded) of the incident.

I said, if the bite happened in the location as advertised, it is Lauren Kanarek’s liability. However, I suspect the bite happened in the common areas based on my understanding of where the cameras record. Plus, lies a lot on social media….

[Knights_Mom]

Doesn’t matter WHERE the dog bite happened. It matters who did the biting. Kujo has a history of being a bitey dog and so should have been put down.