My horrible experiences with Texas horse trainer/instructor Ellen Doughty-Hume

Did it happen again? Did a post poof?

I got a notification that there was a new post in the thread. When I clicked on the link I got an error message about the content not being available; and in a few moments, when I navigated directly to the thread, there wasn’t a new post.

So I’m assuming something else poofed?

To my understanding, that is exactly what happened.

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At the show where the jumps were moved - Did the people that gathered to complain talk to someone who is in charge of that type of thing at the show? Or did they just gather and complain to each other?

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Referring to the USEA website, it appears the last competition in Area V was Feather Creek. If true, I find this a very serious accusation against the trainer, who purports to be a professional, and against the show management whose responsibility it is to ensure all the rules are followed. If I had attended this event and ridden that course, I would be worried that since the stadium course was ‘tampered with’ after it was set, it is possible the entire division was compromised and results would not count as a Recognized event. Obviously, I was not there, but it is imperative that someone should step up and contact the USEA about this. If there are photos/video it may be possible to determine the height of each fence on the BN stadium course and compare it to what it was originally set at. The sport has specific rules to ensure when you are spending your hard earned dollars to attend a Recognized event, that it is held according to the standards.A competitor at a Recognized event should expect nothing less.

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That a competitor was allowed to reset the course at a recognized event is very upsetting to me. I find it hard to believe the USEA would not get involved if that could be substantiated?!

Just to make sure Feather Creek isn’t being maligned, it was actually at Texas Rose. It was a CT and open schooling.

Thanks, PH - So not recognized after all.

But still not correct behavior. I wonder if the show management will comment if asked directly?

Emily

Certainly not correct under USEA rules, and I didn’t intend to suggest it would be. There are a number of comments above premised on the competition being recognized and that’s not the case. You can’t go to an unrecognized event and complain that USEA isn’t taking action to enforce its rules.

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Right. Some were using this as an AEC warm-up, and expected to be jumping per usual division standards. Texas Rose is not known to be particularly soft.

I don’t think anyone said it was recognized? Maybe because it happened at a show that hosts recognized events. Either way, if you enter a certain level you should be prepared to jump that height. I’m not 100% sure, but typically the show bill will say that it follows with the USEA rules even if it’s not a recognized event. I think the reason why she keeps getting away with this is because people are either a) afraid to say something to her or b) afraid she’ll take her money and go elsewhere. Though I’m not sure where that would be. There are significantly fewer venues for cross country than there are for hunter/jumper.

I think this thread has demonstrated in several ways that she doesn’t really have any money. And I can understand why someone would be personally hesitant to approach [her], but it seems people definitely need to start reporting her to show management, and those people need to start enforcing rules and/or banning her from venues. Because for all the complaints about what kills horse sport, I don’t think anything does it faster than horrible people who no one wants to be around.

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If the event was not recognized then the USEA does not need to get involved. However, if it states the event does follow USEA rules, then these rules should be followed. Period. I know if I was attending an event where something like this happened, I would find it totally unacceptable. I would vote with my pocketbook and never return as well as warn others who might choose to attend to be aware that show management allows things like this to happen.

Thought this was a pertinent update from USEF regarding horse welfare. Maybe bad behavior will finally catch up with those that insist on drawing blood, pressing exhausted horses, endangering youngsters …

https://www.usef.org/media/press-releases/usef-horse-welfare--safety-penalty-guidelines

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Are you willing to post a link to your FB wall? I know I looked at it the first time this thread was active but not sure I can find it again. Thanks!

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She is local to me, but I don’t know her personally. Just a suggestion, post this in the Texas trainer groups on FB and maybe even some of the other ones. [edit] I am also a trainer in the same area. It does help when a student moves into other areas, need to move the horse closer etc. in some other part of the metroplex to be able to give them a recommendation of a new barn or tell them what to look out for.

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I appreciate these type of threads that try to help people who trust barn owners to take care of their horses. I hope the OP and her equine are OK.

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QFP

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I have read every post on this thread and literally can’t believe this is real life…I pray for all the horses involved…

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holy crap!!! :frowning:

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