My horrible experiences with Texas horse trainer/instructor Ellen Doughty-Hume

[CrankyOldWoman]

[QUOTE=NCRider;8981937]
Advice to the houseguests: if you’re going to create multiple COTH id’s you need to vary your writing style. Other than the OP, this thread reads like the same person posting over and over again from multiple screen names.[/QUOTE]

Advice back to you: The reason the posts are starting to sound the same are becauses there are a number of people who are mad as hell at the comments and they are creating accounts to support the OP. Annoyed people from Area V who are familiar with the OP and the trainer in question are undoubtedly going to sound the same. Please don’t undermine our voice by presuming we are the same people. I can assure you, we most certainly are not.

[IrishWillow]

Except me, pictureonemore! Haha. And I have only posted as myself. I know a few of the other posters IRL, and theyre using their regular screennames as well.

[trubandloki]

Sometimes asking more questions is not anymore than simply asking more questions.

I think asking why someone did not leave sooner is a fair question. Pouncing on people for asking something that basic is kind of crazy. Maybe the OP is the greatest person there is, maybe not. That does not make the question any less a reasonable question.
It has been answered now.

[pictureonemore]

I am not the same as anyone else on this thread. I am just me, and I have no use for multiple accounts on here as I only come on for certain things. I’ve been on here longer than any of the other accounts who have posted.

I meant to add "older than the ‘houseguests’, but I posted too quickly.

My bad.

[pictureonemore]

Gotta love it. So much time spent critiquing the OP and her profession than what is being said in the post.

Knowing the OP personally, I can attest that all of these events are, in fact, true. And no, I’m no houseguest. I may not be active all the time, but I’m not the OP. With that being said, these events are not exaggerated nor are they false. I think it is interesting that the automatic focus is on what the OP “should have done” rather than the events themselves. As for those of us who have spoken up to verify the events in question (ahem, SendenHorse), it because it seems to be quite necessary.

And so what of the OP’s profession? Does that automatically make her a liar and someone who shouldn’t be believed? If so, that’s really rich. It’s not even remotely relevant to this post, but kudos to you for bringing it up.

[soloudinhere]

Sorry for your loss, OP.

And for what it’s worth, what you do for work has nothing to do with anything.

I’m deeply invested with my trainer and if I had to move and find a suitable place to bring my collection of horses and equipment, it is probably not something I could do quickly. I also understand the feeling of helplessness when that is the case and you are trying to get out with nowhere to go. I’m sure you’re not feeling very good right now (and over the holidays, too!) and I’m sorry that it’s come to this to defend yourself.

[fanfayre]

Well, Scribbler, if the OP can afford 7 (SEVEN) horses, then she obviously has a very lucrative career, whatever it may be (didn’t click any of the links)

[tldickinson]

I am in zero way affiliated with anybody on this thread and yet I am baffled by the callousness shown toward OP.
A) it is fine to be curious regarding why she stayed at this facility, but tact is required to not berate her for doing so when you don’t know the details. Even I was curious as to why she stayed, but it appears she may have legitimate reasons for doing so
B) her profession has ZERO impact on her credibility. Absolutely none. So to bring that up is ridiculous, at best. If she can provide for her horses’ care then what does it matter how she does so as long as she’s not harming? Perfectly legal profession.
C) regardless, we need to approach this post with caution and try to see both sides of the “pancake”. Unless we are there we genuinely do not know exactly what has occurred but perhaps we should realize that multiple people are, in fact, vouching for this trainer’a poor behavior along with lack of care to the horses in her charge

I’m so disappointed to see profession being brought into this and victim blaming occurring. Even if there are inconsistencies you don’t bash the person reporting, you ask for more information in a non-judgmental manner.

And yeah, put a warning on your posts if they aren’t safe for work.

Shaking my head right now.

[pictureonemore]

Sorry for the multiple posts. My computer clearly doesn’t like me right now and I won’t let me edit the repeats. Sorry.

[CrankyOldWoman]

Here are the facts.

Fact #1
Ellen Doughty-Hume worked out of my barn at one point.

Fact #2
She is NEVER welcome back!

Fact #3
I will call the cops if she ever steps foot on my property and have her immediately escorted off the property.

[soloudinhere]

Nobody can edit or quote at the moment, which makes some threads like this more confusing.

The OP owns at least one very promising young event horse, so I can’t say any of us should be complaining that someone with the means and time is supporting eventing and American riders in this way. Both the good ones and the bad ones, as it may be.

[CrankyOldWoman]

Here are the facts.

Fact #1
Ellen Doughty-Hume worked out of my barn at one point.

Fact #2
She is NEVER welcome back!

Fact #3
I will call the cops if she ever steps foot on my property and have her immediately escorted off the property.

[trubandloki]

[QUOTE=pictureonemore;8981968]
Sorry for the multiple posts. My computer clearly doesn’t like me right now and I won’t let me edit the repeats. Sorry.[/QUOTE]

It is not you. The forum is having an issue right now.

I admit it, I did not even notice the post about the profession of the OP. I think there is only one post on it, now that I look back. No one else but that one person seems to care.

I am sorry the OP has had to go thru this. I feel very sorry for her horses, having had to go thru this. Hopefully moving will allow the OP and her horses to start over and move forward.

[SendenHorse]

I’m not on anyone’s “side”. It’s her choice to bring this up, so once that occurs of course it brings discussion.
Good luck op.

[pictureonemore]

soloudinhere- that makes me feel a bit better re: posting issues. It seems to be happening to others as well.

[Inclined]

OP, I am sorry that you have been villified for telling your story. Please know that many of us do appreciate it when someone is brave enough to warn others. I’m also very sorry for your loss.

[SendenHorse]

No one is vilifying the op if you ask me. There are a few really strange things here, its natural to speculate. Op sure laid it all out and opened the door.

I choose to never speak of my past vs speak out. Both choices are valid options.

[lucegoose]

Senden: what is so strange? Almost all of the things on the list from the OP are no-bueno, but not out of the realm of the believable.

I don’t really understand your issue with this beyond the fact that it was written at all, but as you just said, she’s entitled to do so.

[Winding_Down]

I empathize with those who are afraid to speak out against a trainer or professional. I had a lovely young horse in the hands of a pro a couple of years ago, and I discovered her terribly neglected and emaciated after two months. It took thousands of $$ to treat her for severe ulcers and an eye infection that was left untreated, in addition to the time involved in putting weight and shine back on her. But the worse part of all of this was that a lovely horse suffered.

I have spoken with friends who know what happened. But the repercussions have been quite severe. I had one pro who I respected comment to me about what I “did” to this pro (which amounted to going in and taking my mare without notice) and that said pro was a close friend. It was clear that I was not going to be heard and that I was to blame somehow.

If I had come on CoTH and made a public statement naming this pro, I shudder to think of what would have happened, not only here (which would’ve been easy to deflect), but in the larger eventing world.

So I was silent.

[Ambitious_Kate]

Wow. I’ve taken a troll or two out to lunch and left them to walk themselves home, myself, here on COTH but you girls have quite the chow down on the OP.

I too thought, wow, that’s a lot of hanging around after things have gone from bad to worse for a horse owner, then I realized how many horses she had and how hard it is to move them. I move my horse out of a bad situation I was losing the fight for good care on, and in retrospect can’t believe i stayed as long as I did, so I am not going to begin to think I can stand in her shoes and judge. I like to think I would be quicker to move him our now, but when you aren’t hands on all the time, its hard to see what’s really happening vs. what you are being told is happening.

Good luck, OP. I believe you when you call out a fool, a bully, a manipulator and a liar. I think you very diplomatic in the manner in which you handled exposing this lady.