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I, for one, am not trying to shame the OP. I’m just trying to understand if there’s some degree of hyperbole in the original post or not.
I can assure you that this is no hyperbole.
“He had belonged to Peter Greene once, and when we told him about it, he said ‘So many unprofessional people in this industry, and the horses suffer as a result.’”
Pardon me while I throw up the swig of beer I just drank.
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I can assure you that this is no hyperbole.[/QUOTE]
Well, now that we’ve got some clarification it’s a bit different. When I first posted, we had the original post and not anything else.
Stormy, I am very sorry for your loss. I have lost a horse to a freak pasture accident. It was a horrible shock. Bless your heart.
Well, sheeeeeeeit boy, made it all the way to COTH. Merry Christmas everybody.
I’m sorry- Stormy I am sorry that you have loses.
HOWEVER- you have a list of 15!!! faults against this woman and continued to keep multiple horses with her! You need to take some responsibility for this! You knew what kind of woman she was and how she ran her barns and you continued to board with her! You’re not a victim at this point! I’m not defending her in any way. I don’t know either of you.
I understanding finding a barn for 7 horses is a huge task but if any ONE of those things happened to my horse I would not continue to board there. I would do what was in the best interest of my horses as their provider!
And if anyone would like to know what victim blaming looks like…
Read above ^^^ post. Even after all explanations, you still get people who say things like this.
OP- sorry for your loss. I peeked at your FB page and your horses and stunning.
It can be challenging for some to understand “why did you stay” but it isn’t my (our) place to judge. People handle situation differently.
As for COTH sleuthing- sigh. Profession has nothing to do with being wronged. I used to work in a profession (not adult entertainment 
) that I guarded carefully who knew. Some people on this board would most likely have crucified me if they knew and I DEFINITELY kept it off of social media due to fear of death threats. Seriously it is a thing in my past profession. If someone outted me I’d be PISSED. Your profession does not excuse this behavior. Rock on.
Since the issue with being able to reply with quote still hasn’t been fixed I had to copy and paste your comment to respond…but did you NOT read my follow up? I took full responsibly for not being able to move my horses sooner. I did everything I could…including having them on waiting lists at multiple other facilities and when that wasn’t going fast enough, I decided to BUY acreage and build my own place. Do you know how long that takes??? It is still not completed. Short of putting 7 horses in my living room, which I did actually contemplate, what exactly could I have done? I have to live with the guilt for the rest of my life. And PS: I am not the looking for sympathy. I am looking to stop this woman and warn others. Because I am NOT the victim. The horses (and not just mine) are the victims. What do you say to the 30+ boarders still trapped at her facility. Many of whom have messaged me and are also desperate to move?
"I’m sorry- Stormy I am sorry that you have loses.
HOWEVER- you have a list of 15!!! faults against this woman and continued to keep multiple horses with her! You need to take some responsibility for this! You knew what kind of woman she was and how she ran her barns and you continued to board with her! You’re not a victim at this point! I’m not defending her in any way. I don’t know either of you.
I understanding finding a barn for 7 horses is a huge task but if any ONE of those things happened to my horse I would not continue to board there. I would do what was in the best interest of my horses as their provider!"
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And if anyone would like to know what victim blaming looks like…
Read above ^^^ post. Even after all explanations, you still get people who say things like this.[/QUOTE]
I like to hope that the above post is someone who did not bother to read the whole thread and just posted.
OP- as someone with more horses than you (and goats. Those are just the FARM animals, nevermind the housepets) I would not be able to pick up and leave on a moments notice.
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Well, sheeeeeeeit boy, made it all the way to COTH. Merry Christmas everybody.
You know, I’m normally a fan of schadenfreude, but it’s application in this situation is nothing less than tacky and disgusting.
What with this and all the victim shaming, I’m actually sad to be a member of this board. Never in my life have I seen such vileness and venom and I’ve seen plenty in my day. Congrats. Y’all should be so proud.
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Well, sheeeeeeeit boy, made it all the way to COTH. Merry Christmas everybody.
You know, I’m normally a fan of schadenfreude, but it’s application in this situation is nothing less than tacky and disgusting.
What with this and all the victim shaming, I’m actually sad to be a member of this board. Never in my life have I seen such vileness and venom and I’ve seen plenty in my day. Congrats. Y’all should be so proud.
pictureonemore- I don’t get the reference from Ainsley. I thought it was just an annoying poster ;)- there’s more?
I am one of Ellen’s current boarders, and I must say, this is absolutely ridiculous and childish and petty. Everything Stormy listed is either a downright lie or a stretched version of the truth. Stormy didn’t leave previously because none of those things happened like she said they did. Ellen bent over backwards for this woman, and now she does this. IMO, Stormy deserves everything coming her way, its not bad luck, it’s bad karma. This woman is evil in every definition of the word, and the only ones agreeing with her are friends of hers or others Ellen has kicked out of the barn or other crazies Ellen has dealt with in the past. Ellen does not sugar coat anything and tells it like it is, which many people do not like. She is one of the kindest, most hardworking individuals I know. All of us that board with her are very happy with our lessons/training and care of our horses. Her working students/barn staff are amazing. I think Stormys post speaks for itself. There are definitely 2 sides to the story!
[I am one of Ellen’s current boarders, and I must say, this is absolutely ridiculous and childish and petty. Everything Stormy listed is either a downright lie or a stretched version of the truth. Stormy didn’t leave previously because none of those things happened like she said they did. Ellen bent over backwards for this woman, and now she does this. IMO, Stormy deserves everything coming her way, its not bad luck, it’s bad karma. This woman is evil in every definition of the word, and the only ones agreeing with her are friends of hers or others Ellen has kicked out of the barn or other crazies Ellen has dealt with in the past. Ellen does not sugar coat anything and tells it like it is, which many people do not like. She is one of the kindest, most hardworking individuals I know. All of us that board with her are very happy with our lessons/training and care of our horses. Her working students/barn staff are amazing. I think Stormys post speaks for itself. There are definitely 2 sides to the story! ]
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I do have to say- looking at the FB post- there are A LOT of people who have dealt with this Ellen person who do NOT have positive things to say. Real life people. With accounts that were not created just to post. Just sayin.
Isn’t Ellen the woman who had the issue with the warm up jump too? Jumping the horse excessively in the SJ warm up after it was eliminated on XC?
It’s a small world. I looked up the trainer in question and her facility is in my city. I know exactly where it is. I will say as someone who has had horses with a trainer, it is sometimes difficult to treat them as you would anyone providing (or not) a service. It’s a different kind of relationship.
OP, I’m sorry for your losses and other issues. I bet no one ever pulls that “stuff” on you again.
This seems like a situation that should be pursued legally, rather than via a bulletin board.
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Isn’t Ellen the woman who had the issue with the warm up jump too? Jumping the horse excessively in the SJ warm up after it was eliminated on XC?[/QUOTE]
Again, a thread started by someone who wasnt there and didn’t see what went on. 2 sides to a story. Ellen is an excellent horsewoman. I was there for that particular show, and the horse got her off on the xc (which does not happen often). The show was over, she was one of the last to go, she remounted and jumped some fences in sj warmup. The horse tried to do the exact same thing over the first fence she jumped in warm up, so she jumped him about 10 more times to confirm he was jumping confidently and quietly. She was leaving for Galway to compete directly from that show, so had she not gotten back on him, he would of sat for 10 days , getting rewarded for throwing her off. I’m sure any other good professional would have done exactly what she did.
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