My horrible experiences with Texas horse trainer/instructor Ellen Doughty-Hume

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She just had a rotational fall at an event in Florida then felt the need to post a side by side picture of her horse flipping over a jump with one of her smiling saying “live life to the fullest”

She also reposted the WA Post article and the number of people I know of commenting in support of EDH is astounding - people are still completely unaware, or in denial.

ETA: looks like it was not a true rotational, her post indicated he flipped but pictures show it looks like he was able to get his feet under him before a full rotational.

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Yikes :flushed:

This is widely known. Maybe not Carter’s role, but the practice and fraudulent nature.

Ronan Farrow covered this scheme and tied Trump to it in his book “Catch and Kill.” It wasn’t just Weinstein and his ilk the tabloids protected.

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Ronan Farrow’s book, Catch and Kill, was gripping and terrifying. Very much worth reading, if you have not read it yet.
Certainly the tabloids protected Trump. The whole Stormy Daniels/Trump story was perfect tabloid fodder - you would think - It had all the elements a tabloid story would want, famous self styled billionaire politician, married, an affair beautiful porn star… Why was THIS not all over the covers of these papers, but Hillary’s supposed" life threatening illness" and worse, were?
Not surprised, knowing the background and the players. :frowning:

But I am surprised at the WaPo for running a trashy article like this.

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Saw that.
Really distasteful.

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Is there a link online somewhere, at least to the news of the fall? My internet search didn’t turn up anything.

It’s a public post on her FB page.

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10124415873899804&set=pcb.10124415322140534

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Thanks! Here is more she posted from that page …

Take a look at the shattered helmet … more photos are in this link.

And her takeaway …

The photos show that it doesn’t seem to be a rotational fall by the horse. It could have been, but looks as if he came right back up from his nose almost on the ground, rather than tipping over.

Based on these photos, more of a level 10 peck. Horse didn’t fall, but that high back-end with a buried front-end just dumped the rider right out of the saddle. It’s almost impossible for anyone to stay on with a front end that low when the back end is that high, with momentum. Lucky outcome, could have been far worse.

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The picture of the helmet is pretty darn scary.

It’s interesting how the gray horse in the photo on the jump in question seems to be watching the whole thing unfold right under his nose.

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My description was of competent reporting. Bad reporting is getting the most important facts wrong, forcing the story into your own script, doing no homework, only getting one side of the story … you know, like the one we’re discussing.

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I understood it as a rotational because in her post she said “he never left the ground and flipped over it” I wouldn’t use the term flipped if it wasn’t rotational, but there’s a lot of things Ellen does and says that I wouldn’t do.

Either way I still think it’s very distasteful to post what she posted the next day, the fact that she took time to stitch the two photos together is just yuck to me, but maybe that is colored by her history of poor horse care/welfare.

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I mean, the picture shows the horse with his legs in front of him on the landing side, which means to me he did not actually rotate over the jump.

But maybe it’s just semantics regarding the exact meaning of rotational fall.

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I didn’t go through all the pictures, just saw what was in the preview on Facebook (the first 3 or 4 photos) and what she wrote, if I perceived “flipped” and “rotational” incorrectly, I’m sorry to whomever that offended - but that was my initial interpretation of what happened based on her words.

I don’t think anyone’s offended. Or I’m not, anyway.

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There is WAY more other stuff to be offended by!

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I would understand “he never left the ground and flipped over” differently. Just based on having seen the photo series of the incident.

I think it felt to her as if he “flipped over”, because his body pushed across but then he dropped out from under her, and she ended up on the ground. “Flipped over” could refer to the sloppy way the momentum propelled him over the obstacle, while leaving his legs on the other side.

Her use of expressions could easily be understood in different ways. She wasn’t speaking very precisely. I think that what she said probably did express the way it felt to her.

Had the horse not managed to get his front legs back under him, it could have been a true head-down feet-up cartwheel. Lucky that didn’t happen.

I feel like she might have used that expression for dramatic affect, tbh. Looking at the pictures, he caught his front legs on the jump, but put the landing gear down soon enough to avoid a full rotational fall. It doesn’t look like the horse actually flipped and hit the ground. She got launched when his back end started to rotate over. Unless there are pictures of the sequence where he DID hit the ground that she left out. But from what she posted, it doesn’t look quite like what she said happened.

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Her FB page has photos of these 2 “German ponies” who have “arrived”.

Who has not been feeding them??

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Those poor things. They look terrible. :frowning:

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