My horrible experiences with Texas horse trainer/instructor Ellen Doughty-Hume

I have to assume what has been publicly shared is a drop in the bucket.

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All from December 2016 in this thread, just a smattering, a teaser, for those who haven’t dived in yet … guess the article-writer didn’t read up-thread?

Quoting only 3 posts from early days. And this is not getting to the sad & gruesome no-vet happenings.

imo “asked” is a generous term, given the history

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Interesting.

Is ED still active as an upper level rider? On has it been awhile since she had a serious horse?

In 2022 she had the TB mare Breakin’ All The Rules in the Kentucky 3 Day 4*-S. Didn’t finish XC. The pair were 28th in the 3*-S at Stable View and didn’t finish the 4*-S in Georgia (2022).

The pair have been out a couple of times this spring at Prelim & Intermediate. Finished, scores not great but jumped clean on XC.

She has/had a couple of others at Prelim & Intermediate in the last 2-3 years, I believe.

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ding ding ding

relevant pod today

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She just had a rotational fall at an event in Florida then felt the need to post a side by side picture of her horse flipping over a jump with one of her smiling saying “live life to the fullest”

She also reposted the WA Post article and the number of people I know of commenting in support of EDH is astounding - people are still completely unaware, or in denial.

ETA: looks like it was not a true rotational, her post indicated he flipped but pictures show it looks like he was able to get his feet under him before a full rotational.

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Yikes :flushed:

This is widely known. Maybe not Carter’s role, but the practice and fraudulent nature.

Ronan Farrow covered this scheme and tied Trump to it in his book “Catch and Kill.” It wasn’t just Weinstein and his ilk the tabloids protected.

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Ronan Farrow’s book, Catch and Kill, was gripping and terrifying. Very much worth reading, if you have not read it yet.
Certainly the tabloids protected Trump. The whole Stormy Daniels/Trump story was perfect tabloid fodder - you would think - It had all the elements a tabloid story would want, famous self styled billionaire politician, married, an affair beautiful porn star… Why was THIS not all over the covers of these papers, but Hillary’s supposed" life threatening illness" and worse, were?
Not surprised, knowing the background and the players. :frowning:

But I am surprised at the WaPo for running a trashy article like this.

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Saw that.
Really distasteful.

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Is there a link online somewhere, at least to the news of the fall? My internet search didn’t turn up anything.

It’s a public post on her FB page.

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10124415873899804&set=pcb.10124415322140534

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Thanks! Here is more she posted from that page …

Take a look at the shattered helmet … more photos are in this link.

And her takeaway …

The photos show that it doesn’t seem to be a rotational fall by the horse. It could have been, but looks as if he came right back up from his nose almost on the ground, rather than tipping over.

Based on these photos, more of a level 10 peck. Horse didn’t fall, but that high back-end with a buried front-end just dumped the rider right out of the saddle. It’s almost impossible for anyone to stay on with a front end that low when the back end is that high, with momentum. Lucky outcome, could have been far worse.

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The picture of the helmet is pretty darn scary.

It’s interesting how the gray horse in the photo on the jump in question seems to be watching the whole thing unfold right under his nose.

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My description was of competent reporting. Bad reporting is getting the most important facts wrong, forcing the story into your own script, doing no homework, only getting one side of the story … you know, like the one we’re discussing.

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I understood it as a rotational because in her post she said “he never left the ground and flipped over it” I wouldn’t use the term flipped if it wasn’t rotational, but there’s a lot of things Ellen does and says that I wouldn’t do.

Either way I still think it’s very distasteful to post what she posted the next day, the fact that she took time to stitch the two photos together is just yuck to me, but maybe that is colored by her history of poor horse care/welfare.

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I mean, the picture shows the horse with his legs in front of him on the landing side, which means to me he did not actually rotate over the jump.

But maybe it’s just semantics regarding the exact meaning of rotational fall.

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I didn’t go through all the pictures, just saw what was in the preview on Facebook (the first 3 or 4 photos) and what she wrote, if I perceived “flipped” and “rotational” incorrectly, I’m sorry to whomever that offended - but that was my initial interpretation of what happened based on her words.

I don’t think anyone’s offended. Or I’m not, anyway.

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There is WAY more other stuff to be offended by!

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