Or it could be that the poor horse is just tired of having his back pinched and his mouth snatched. My saint of a horse bucked with me when I was trying out saddles. The saddle looked like it fit, but when I sat in it, a small area in the middle was putting pressure on his spine. I’m hoping, for the horse’s sake, that’s it’s an easy fix. Otherwise I don’t expect a soft landing.
I’m calling “exaggeration” on most of the diagnostics here.
Well… This has certainly evolved a bit :rolleyes:
What’s the Dutch equivalent of guacamole?
OP, I appreciate it can be hard to take advice, especially when you’ve been working to understand what is going on and running into a wall. But the truth is, ‘we don’t know what we don’t know.’ Education is not a binary, it is a spectrum. You’ve gotten some great advice here from some concerned and caring people. Take it, report back, and see what else this community can offer you.
In time, I hope you’ll come to see that seeing the dream you created for the horse and seeing the horse clearly are two different things. Sometimes the best thing we can do FOR THE HORSE is to move on and find someone new to dream with.
It also occurs to me that we’ve had more than one thread where it turns out after a few pages and more questions that the kid that started it doesn’t really own “their horse,” it’s a lesson horse they want advice about. Sometimes I think hoping to be able to march in, Heartland episode style, and save the day with their horse whisperer skills. Sometimes these kids do seem to be surrounded by sub par adults, dangerous programs, equine neglect. But there is nothing you can do if you don’t own the horse.
The other thing that occurs to me is that it’s one thing for a nonhorsey mom to be clueless about horses. But such moms are always very precise about their children! I have never seen a thread started by a parent that wasn’t very precise about the child’s age and skill level (maybe overly optimistic or wrong, but detailed!). ‘DD is 14 and this is her first horse after the pony and she has been in lessons six years and jumps two foot nine at local schooling shows.’ That kind of thing. Very odd to have a parent give no details at all about the child.
Anyhow school is now back in session for January.
Assuming you are in Southern California, which others have implied though I only found the post with you saying California…
If you want a good clinic I would go south to Mark Martinelli or north to Alamo Pintado. Both are good, complete clinics. You can opt for just a bone scan (nuclear scintigraphy) at Santa Anita, but you need to be working with a good lameness vet as they pretty much just do the scintigraphy. At least that’s the way it’s been in the past. My experience there may have been a bit different as my vet at the time (now moved to Oregon) actually ran the scintigraphy facility so the integration was rather seamless.
My guess on the diagnosis would be pain-related, perhaps exacerbated by changes in feed or workload, feeling better with increased feed, or learned behavior.
I couldn’t help it, this made me laugh
My bet is that this is a teenager with a SIM horse. Buying a flunked-out trail and lesson horse as a H/J prospect for something close to 5 figures? (Heck, buying ANY 15-yr old horse as a “prospect”?) Three different vets, a chiro, and trainer all consulting on said horse over 8 mos? Exporting a horse that’s not rideable to the Netherlands? Continued “inability” to post any pictures that would easily be resolved by following the advice on how to do it? Sorry, I think this is entirely fiction.
But, this thread is testament to COTH’s willingness to help a fellow horseperson, and there’s some great advice laid out here, should anyone with a real horse come across it. So in that way it wasn’t a waste of time.
I think this is a real horse, owned by a teenager, who may not be a native english speaker.
I sincerely hope that she shows her parents this thread, because she really does need some help here. So many things are going wrong. So many things that are not impossible to fix, but do definitely need a guiding hand.
@pheevden2 here are a couple more threads with trainer suggestions for you.
https://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/forum/discussion-forums/hunter-jumper/202857-san-diego-area-barns
If text-speak counts as a “first language,” I concur.
I hate being jerked around by people who aren’t being honest. OP, if you want an answer bring the horse to a reputible full service vet clinic. Otherwise, it appears you know everything there is to know (other, I guess, than what Vitamin E is) so why even ask?!
I teach incoming teenagers in college.
I also used to teach English as a Second Language.
There are typical forms/ errors in written English if the student has another first language.
There are typical forms in written English if the student is a teenager with English as a first language.
This thread shows many of the latter features, but absolutely none of the first. English as a second language is not the problem here.
SIM horse is a good guess too.
I hope it was a laugh in a good way, not in a bad way? :o :lol: I’ll admit it. I’m a bit of a nerd! :winkgrin:
The OP’s question about what is in Vitamin E made me cry! :sadsmile::concern::lol:
Sprinkles!!
Seems like there’s a million different kinds of Hagelslag and the shavings type, vlokken.
<he’s a hunter/jumper prospect! (he can freejump up to 4’ without ever being trained…!)>
Usually “prospects” aren’t 15. Who free jumped him 4 foot? That’s probably what broke him down.
Sorry, I shouldn’t have said broke down, but dang. Free jumping 4 foot is a pretty big deal, especially if he wasn’t properly trained up to it.
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