My trainer told me I am too heavy for a horse...and that was ok

This is kind of a spin off from the thread started by the trainer who worried how to tell her student she was too heavy for the school horse she wanted to ride.

There was a lot of dubious advice to overweight riders, but the advice to the trainer was just to be polite and upfront about it. Funnily enough I ust had the same conversation with my own trainer last night.

Long story short, my friend got hurt a few months ago and can’t ride - has been asking me to ride her horse. Horse is in full training with our trainer so I didn’t think my limited amateur skills would be too beneficial so I declined at the time and trainer agreed with me that it wasn’t a good idea.

Fast forward a few months, my friend is now nervous of her horse and wants as many other amateurs riding her so she can see that the horse is just fine with them (which she totally is). My horse has been lame for a week so again she’s been pushing me to ride her mare instead. When I brought it up to the trainer she acted very strange about it and clearly was against the idea but didn’t say why.

Last night the topic came up again and I could see my trainer really struggling with what to say. She was so worried about hurting my feeling and offending me but finally said I was too heavy to ride that horse.

Though it’s not what anyone wants to hear, I wasn’t offended in the slightest. I know how much I weigh and though I wouldn’t have thought it was an issue on this horse as she’s quite tall, the trainer knows her better than I do and explained why her height is not the only factor. If she thought I was such a crappy rider that I would ruin the horse in just a few rides, then I would have been really offended LOL. I know I’m fat but I’m pretty sure I’m not that terrible a rider :wink:

Other than delaying telling me, here’s how I think the trainer handled it well. She was upfront and explained what about this horse’s confirmation and sensitivity made her not appropriate for me. She didn’t say I was too fat to ride, and made a point of confirming how well matched I am with my own horse. She didnt suggest there was anything wrong with me, offer health advice or tell me to lose weight. She kept it to the simple fact that I am too heavy for this particular horse.

I hope this helps that trainer who originally posted the question, and also any others in similar situations. Trainers / coaches / owners have to put their horse’s welfare first and riders have to make sure they are honest about their weight to be matched with a suitable horse. There are lots of appropriate horses out there for overweight riders (contrary to what some on this board will tell you).

thank you for your input. There are many reasons a rider might be inappropriate for a given horse such as skill level, attitude, personality. I applaud your grace in handling this so well. I think if we consider what is best for our animals it is easier to let others know when the match would not be a good one and to understand why we as riders might not be a good fit. Hope your horse recovers quickly!

This made me happy. I love hearing about potentially awkward situations being dealt with through compassion and clarity. Thank you for sharing!

Honesty is usually the best policy, as long as it’s tempered with politeness :slight_smile:

Awesome post! Agreed - most overweight folks know they are overweight, just as others know they are too skinny, too short, too tall or whatever else for a horse (some people don’t know they don’t ride well at times, lol). It is on the individual to decide how they want to live their lives and be happy in their own skin, but as you say, if a person is overweight, simply find a horse suited to them. No judgment needed, just everyone putting the horse’s welfare first.

It helps that you are clearly the type of person to listen and not be offended just because someone pointed out something that might be sensitive.

It is great that you and your trainer were able to communicate so well.

[QUOTE=LilyandBaron;8727191]
Awesome post! Agreed - most overweight folks know they are overweight, just as others know they are too skinny, too short, too tall or whatever else for a horse (some people don’t know they don’t ride well at times, lol). It is on the individual to decide how they want to live their lives and be happy in their own skin, but as you say, if a person is overweight, simply find a horse suited to them. No judgment needed, just everyone putting the horse’s welfare first.[/QUOTE]

You would think so but judgement of overweight people is a popular sport. I have been called selfish and a “lazy piece of $hit” by internet trolls and on this board was told I am too fat to ride any horse, ever,and saw overweight people referred to as “huge blobs.” Presumably these faults would magically disappear if I were no longer a size 16. I’ve been fat and I’ve been skinny and I’m pretty sure I wasn’t a “piece of $shit” at size 8. Funny that to some strangers I am now just because of my clothing size.

That’s why I appreciate how my trainer handled it. We’ve been working together for 2 years and have discussed my weight many times in terms of finding the perfect horse for me (which we did) and the frustration of trying to find cute riding clothes in my size. She has never offered any judgement, only help to improve my riding skills.

I’m a heavier rider myself, and I know there are some horses out there that I can’t ride based on size, conformation, temperament, etc. It’s ok, really!!! Kudos to your trainer for not making this situation into something major, and major props to you for putting the horse first.

Side note - hope your friend gets her confidence back soon!!!

[QUOTE=BigMama1;8727209]
and saw overweight people referred to as “huge blobs.”[/QUOTE]
I use this term to describe myself quite frequently.

It’s sad to think about fat shaming. I do get annoyed when people who are grossly unhealthy make excuses. Thyroids can be managed, weight lifting/working out can increase metabolism, and yes, some people may have to eat less than others/move more than others, but anyone can be strong and fit and healthy. That may come in size 0 or size 16, and no one should shame that. And if someone is okay not being fit, that’s fine too. But acting like it’s rocket science and there’s no way to be fit or acting like fit people don’t actively do anything to be fit is annoying. Otherwise, live and let live!

[QUOTE=LilyandBaron;8727274]
It’s sad to think about fat shaming. I do get annoyed when people who are grossly unhealthy make excuses. ![/QUOTE]

You just fat shamed.

Maybe you think you didn’t. But you did.

[QUOTE=WasthatC;8727307]
You just fat shamed.

Maybe you think you didn’t. But you did.[/QUOTE]

Agree. Pretty much everything beyond that first sentence was the kind of subtle fat shaming that is woven throughout public conversation on the subject. Fat shaming isn’t just calling someone a disgusting fat blob.

I don’t know if I’d call it fat shaming but it’s definitely judging someone based on your standards. Someone’s reasons, excuses, etc for being overweight have zero bearing on your life - there is no justification for being annoyed by them, or for deciding someone is “grossly unhealthy” without knowing anything about them other than how they look. If someone is unwilling or unable to make the changes needed to lose weight, that is their issue, not anyone else’s.

Thats why my trainer’s approach is refreshing. She knows I’m not happy with my weight and that I’m making changes to be fitter and stronger. She helps me be the best rider I can be right now and my weight doesn’t come into except when relevant - like in the case with my friend’s horse

What a great exchange, OP! Thank you for sharing, and your courage in doing so. I, too, think that trainers should be honest with us and consider the horse’s as well as our own welfare when matching horses and riders. (My DD saw this thread and said, “Who is her trainer? I want to ride with her!”)

:slight_smile: My trainer is awesome and I’m happy to giver her a shout out. Debbie Dobson at Equestrian Dreams in Campbellville, Ontario, Canada :slight_smile:

She’s a big proponent of finding the right horse for the rider - not just size wise but temperament, movement etc. Instead of pushing clients to buy super flashy expensive horses that only she would be able to show and need pro rides 5 times a week, she wants us to have horses we can ride and enjoy ourselves. Some are still fancy warmbloods, some are fancy draft crosses LOL.

Sounds like you have a great trainer and a great partnership with her. Lucky you!

I have a horse that in all ways but one would be great for Mr. PoPo. Mr. PoPo is too big for him. We’ve tried it a couple different times, but I kept coming to the same conclusion - the horse’s conformation isn’t suited to handling a rider of Mr. PoPo’s size. I have another horse who is the same height, but much sturdier and suited for a man. My TB is a kid’s or lady’s horse, it just is what it is.

Glad your trainer was honest, glad you were receptive, and glad that everyone is happy with the program!

[QUOTE=trubandloki;8727248]
I use this term to describe myself quite frequently.[/QUOTE]

My friend and I call ourselves “Team Umpa Lumpa” in self deprecation. :slight_smile:

thank you for sharing your story! you have a great attitude and I’ve enjoyed your threads on my 8 week goals threads! thanks!

[QUOTE=SendenHorse;8727484]
thank you for sharing your story! you have a great attitude and I’ve enjoyed your threads on my 8 week goals threads! thanks![/QUOTE]

Haven’t had many goals the last couple of weeks except getting this abscess cleared up in time to ride in a show next Sunday :frowning:

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Haven’t had many goals the last couple of weeks except getting this abscess cleared up in time to ride in a show next Sunday :-([/QUOTE]
:cry: