Need a dog

[S1969]

@walkers60

I am not naive , the breeder did OFA on the bitch she just lied, remember its a business. I’ve had dogs for 40 years!

The OFA database is open to the public. What did she lie about - the results? Or that the puppy would have good hips. Now I’m curious more than anything. It is possible that both parents tested good or even excellent and still produced dysplasia. If it was that easy to eliminate, it would be gone by now.

So, no breeder should claim that a puppy could never be dysplastic if parents passed OFA hip clearances, but the likelihood is much less. And the severity is less as well; I’ve known a few dogs that did not pass OFA from a breeding perspective but were never really clinically lame.

I think whether breeding is “a business” is questionable. This came up recently on the Dog Show Forum group on Facebook. Someone claimed to know a “reputable breeder” that was breeding show quality puppies from titled parents and “living comfortably” off the profits. Most people responded “good for them!” but a lot of people (including myself) wondered how it could be possible. Titling a dog is expensive. Like up to $20K depending on the breed, when you consider all the entries, grooming, gas, hotels, clothes, etc. So it makes it hard to believe anyone could live “comfortably” off the profits of breeding titled dogs. It is possible…but unusual.

[DownYonder]

I know you said no show lines, but I am with S1969–responsible breeders test their breeding stock for genetic issues and remove those who don’t measure up from the breeding pool. And show breeders tend to be much more proactive about testing than backyard breeders.

That said, I just saw a FB posting for a red Doberman bitch. Retired AKC champion, 3 yrs old, available in NC. A friend has Dobes on her farm and says they are great with the horses and regular visitors but just protective and wary enough with strangers that she feels super safe being alone on the property.

[Casey09]

Yes to me there are really 2 ways to go: rescue a dog if you’re really wanting to help a dog, or a reputable breeder if you want a specific type of dog.
The realistic chances of finding a dog that doesn’t have an owner looking for it that meets certain criteria is pretty small.
It sounds like you have a nice home for a dog and enjoy having one. I would strongly suggest finding someone you trust in a breed to help you look for a dog that fits your requirements. You could try someone on a rescue that might be able to help you look for a specific type of dog. There are lots of dogs out there, and young dogs are generally fairly healthy. I must be an easy sell because I can usually place a phone call saying I’m looking for a dog and have a dog within a few weeks.

[Marla_100]

This lab rescue placed a notice on RR fb group for 2 yr old male- looks like RR/Lab mix in Charlotte NC.
https://www.luckylabsrescue.com/adoption-policies.html

[walkers60]

I spent 3 hours looking at rescues last night and they are pretty empty except for trouble/ill dogs , so thats great news for dogs …

I checked with my local vets and they said everyne is having that issue which means the world has changed. People used to beg to find homes for dogs.
Apology to rescue Cothers but my experience with these folks is they are NUTS!

[walkers60]

thanks already adopted and really a lab.

[Marla_100]

1 yr. old female purebred RR, Western NC.
https://chicoraridgebacks.com/guardian-homes-adults/

[walkers60]

They want to breed this dog repeatedly. . I thank you for finding her and I would have wanted her but not this outrageous situation and she is not a breeding quality dog. Pretty sad.
We all need to be careful about people like this.

[SonnysMom]

Have you actually contacted them about the dog? I don’t think they were placing her as a Guardian situation (breeding bitch). That is the next section down. I think that she is just an an available adult they are rehoming and if she doesn’t work out you need to send her back to them.

[jherold]

They actually sound like very responsible breeders. The bitch in the picture wasn’t even bred by them.

[Marla_100]

Walker, I think you misunderstood the info about the last female. This breeder is just trying to help re-home this dog. They didn’t breed her.

[S1969]

@jherold

They actually sound like very responsible breeders. The bitch in the picture wasn’t even bred by them.

Agreed - the bitch in the picture wasn’t bred by them.

Although, I would generally tell people to use extreme caution with any breeder that uses “guardian homes.” That is not a trend that reputable breeders use.

Co-ownership, possibly. But that typically is to prevent unwanted breeding. Guardian homes are explicitly for the breeder to use because they want to be able to breed multiple bitches without the expense of owning them. Co-ownership rarely involves the breeder using the bitch without the consent and agreement of the other owner(s) - AND some form of compensation.

[Midge]

No RRs but good people with nice dogs and a fine rescue.

https://dannyronsrescue.org/dogs?

[Zu_Zu]

I also have run into several rescue batshitcrazy organizations - local and out of town.
Thank goodness they showed themselves before a bad placement was made. I know there must be good rescues, however I was unsuccessful in locating one for my life.

I contacted my attorney and had him to ask around if there might be a dog who’s owner had passed away looking for a new home - these placements handled the the owner’s will. While this also did not produce ‘my dog’ , this might be an avenue to explore.

Good Luck Jingles Don’t Give Up !

[TheresanAppfurthat]

Had a Ridgeback for years - great all around dog and she got on extremely well with the horses. Mine came from a RESPONSIBLE breeder (e.g., not a puppy mill) in Springfield, MO and was a blood relative, same breeding, of a barn friend’s Ridgeback, which is how I knew that this breed would be good around horses. FYI almost all purebred dog breeders have some sort of rescue/owner surrender setup so if you are committed to finding a rehomed Ridgeback you might consider networking with breeders to figure out who is doing breed rescue.

I’m not against pitbulls (I had a wonderful pittie years ago, the only dog my old stallion would tolerate) but unfortunately there is strong breed prejudice among homeowner insurance and farm insurance underwriters so you are probably wise to avoid a pittie for that reason alone.

[Marla_100]

I agree w/ others about the difficulty dealing with rescues. And usually one of the first questions is if your property is fenced so the dog can’t run off. Some even demand high fences that aren’t climbable. Then some refuse you a young dog if you’re over a certain age. Lots of roadblocks to getting a rescue.
On the other hand, shelters in my area don’t ask anything. No screening at all. If you want the dog, it’s yours. They do make it easy, which is why I’ve gotten my last 2 there.

Walker60, there’s a nice dog out there waiting for you, I hope you can find it.

[walkers60]

Any new ideas for finding a good dog, not a puppy. I have spent 5 hours looking at rescues, org. SPCA ,facebook and nothing . There was one article that suggested that when the gov. starts allowing evictions the humane societies will be bursting. How sad is that but it rang true.
Really just to let folks know I am still hunting for a forever dog, afraid this will be my last dog so yes has to be smart and happy. No pit bulls , no labs and never a later dodle or golden retriever .Yes must like horses and running free.
Yep looking for a DOG.
thanks
NC
lonely lady

[awaywego]

@walkers60 I’m so sorry you’re having such a tough time with this. I miss my dog who I lost last May terribly. I spent September through December applying through rescue after rescue to no avail. Every time I was told how demand is high for pandemic puppies it was like salt in my wounds. We eventually gave up and went the breeder route because the rescue process was incredibly depressing.

What I did learn along the way was that with the rescues that I could actually talk to a person and make a real human connection, I felt like we would have eventually gotten the right dog. I was really disappointed by the many rescues who would take my online application (and quite often, $ to go with the application) and never hear from again. I think if you can find a rescue that you can make a personal connection with you will have better luck. I think many of the rescues are very inflexible in their process, and I’m sure there are lots of good reasons for it, but it can make adoption difficult. I hope you find your dog soon.

[BigPaintHorse]

If you are on FB (i don’t remember far enough back in the thread to know if you are or aren’t) we are getting a some ridgebacks and ridgeback mixes in adoptable performance dogs. If you wanted to PM me your email address I would be happy to copy/paste pics and contact information for the promising ones to you if you wanted.

[S1969]

One of my co-workers in NYC tried to get a dog and couldn’t. His parents live in Tennessee so when he was visiting them over the holidays he got a dog from a local animal shelter. If you can travel, it might be worth trying that route - especially if you have any connections in places where shelters have dogs like in some southern states.