New farm, let's build some stuff

I was kind of envisioning how some horse trailers have upright poles you can pop in and/or out depending on if you want to hang the divider or not. Is there a way to recreate that in a stall? And would it be sturdy enough?

I agree a 14’ board would be unwieldy.

I wonder if something designed like a shorter schooling jump standard for the middle would work. It will be able to slide back and forth a little, but would allow for two shorter lengths of board (or whatever material you choose).
It just needs a big enough foot/base so when pushed around it will not fall over easily.

Disclaimer here - I have one horse who literally sits on whatever she is using to itch on. I now feel like all things have to stand up to all the horse sitting on it and moving back and forth.

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They dont itch their bums, it’s their neck and chest it needs to hold up to.

I have some standards that I could sacrifice. But I dont know how id stop it from getting shoved around.

@Texarkana’s idea of a drop in support would be cool, but a plug of some type would have to be fashioned. Winter could be interesting if the water table was high and it ices over lol

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I think you have to accept that it will be shoved around some, the amount will depend on how much play is in the whole assembly.

It will not be able to go too far since it will be connected to the wall on each end.

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Based on this picture from an earlier post

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Could you set up brackets on the side of the 6x6s that you could drop a pipe in as top and bottom rails, then add the webbing to fill in the gap?

Another alternative is 2-8 foot pipe gates that can be mounted on the 6x6s with a 2’ overlap in the middle that will add strength. (A 6’ and 8’ would work, but then you lose the overlap.)

ETA: You could use a 14’ gate, but they are unwieldy with 1 person. 2-8’ gates are easier to handle and store.

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In my dream barn when I win the lottery, I’m going to have some sort of user-friendly system of easily moveable stall walls.

I don’t know what that system is yet, but I swear I’m going to invent it when money is no object. :rofl:

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I totally thought of the bracket idea, but my concern would be a halter or flymask getting caught on it when it’s empty. I could maybe think up a filler of some type to sit in it when it’s not in use.

I do have a 6’ gate already here, but two 8s would be nice. I’m just looking for something that’s super quick in case of a pop up storm. The big round pen panels did a great job (I used big eye bolts on the posts to drop the pins in, and between that and their overlap they were SOLID), but damn did that take some finagling to set up. 8’ gates would be a ton easier.

Stall tracks mounted on the posts, sliding walls. mmm.

Also… $$$$. haha

How about instead of trying for something solid enough for them to lean on, you go the other way, and keep them off of the barrier you’ve got with a line of hot?

It could be super fast to just uncoil & turn on, and easy to take down & store.

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For the 8’ gates you could use eye screws and short bolts or hitch pins to attach them to the 6x6s instead of hinge pins. They don’t need to swing so it doesn’t need to be as strong.

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@Christa_P Oh totally. That’s what I did with the round pen panels and it worked great!

@Simkie my Old Man is REALLY respectful of electric, honestly too respectful (graze along the fence so I don’t have to whip it, dammit). If I strung that in a 10x14 stall, he’d be crawling up the wall trying to give himself more space from it. That is a superb idea though!

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Aw, bummer.

I’d go with the metal conduit in that case. But rather than a chain through it and clips, make a mounting bracket at either end it can sit in. Then you’re not adding a weak point at the chain/snaps. You could even add a drop pin in the ends.

Then store it against the end wall, in similar mounting brackets, so it’s right there and a quick job to just move over to split the space.

Screw eyes sticking out into horse space always freak me out :grimacing: I saw a horse open herself up from shoulder to hip on one, and man that really sticks with you. If you do wind up using something like that, maybe inset them?

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If you look at the picture I copied from an earlier post, the eye screws are mounted on the side of the post next to the wall, not sticking out into the stall so less likely to cause an issue.

For hook type things in horse space, I still prefer things like these:

https://www.autozone.com/tie-down-and-cargo-management/tie-down-anchors-and-eye-bolts/p/cargosmart-hd-bolt-d-ring/1196388_0_0

Or any other version of inset/lie flat anchors.

Stuff that sticks out just freaks me out :grimacing: Totally understand not everyone has that same hangup, haha. Lots of options out there though that are more flush.

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Brackets/hooks give me more jeebies than rounded hook eyes, but anything sticking out is a risk for sure. I’ll play around with it.

The chain idea was to add strength. Heavy wall pipe is strong, but an X pound rated chain inside it is stronger. The pipe just provides the smooth surface.

Maybe bracket is a poor choice of word. Use another board an inch or whatever away from your upright to create a channel for the pipe to slot, and pin your pipe inside that channel. Sure, add a chain for strength, and use a drop pin through each pipe end, through a chain link, into your “bracket,” to secure the whole thing.

Everything would be inset, nothing sticking out to catch a horse or any gear. Just another board along the wall. And if (when) they rub on it, the wood on either side of the pipe will help support that load, rather than a snap or whatever taking all of it.

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Trick to get strength on the pinning with what you’re describing, but it’s possible!

Maybe a metal plate in the channel, u shaped. Attach to either side, hole at the bottom for your drop pin? :thinking:

Hell you could even get super fancy and hinge a metal plate piece on top, so you’d be supported top and bottom with your drop pin!

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If the idea was to have the pipe in the bracket, but the pin go through the chain and the pipe, I’d have to do some additional securing of the chain inside to pipe to make sure the pin would go through a link and not bypass it. Also, a drop pin would let a horse lift it off, if they got their head or something under it.

I think I’ll start with the screw eyes (they’re already in there from putting up the panels a few months ago), and tweak it from there. The bracket is a good idea though, and would probably be faster to put up once you got it all dialed in.

Nah, this is what I mean, something like this:

https://www.harborfreight.com/58-in-easy-grip-hitch-pin-63671.html

Or this:

https://www.harborfreight.com/square-bail-pto-lock-pin-60660.html

A pin that needs to be “unlocked” rather than free.

Yeah, definitely agree that the chain would have to be tacked into the pipe somehow so you’re not fishing for it with the pin. That would be super frustrating. Could be secured with something as simple as a zip tie, though.

It could be pretty sexy!

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