I bet its designed to compete with Purina Outlast, which is nearly $50 a bag now.
That could be true, although the recommended feed rate of the Standlee product is .05 to 1% lb of body weight per day (i.e., 6-12lbs /1200lb horse/day), while the feed rate for Outlast is approx 10 oz 3-4 times/day. So Standlee is asking you to feed significantly more.
It’s a pelleted forage, with a bit of flax oil. It serves the same purpose any hay pellet or shredded/pelleted beet pulp out there now. It’s just combined.
It’s not fortified, it doesn’t replace any “grain”
The reasons for using a pelleted forage replacement can be colitis, heaves, toothless, mixing with a forage balancer or other powdered/pelleted v/m supplement, and in whatever amount fits the situation
If this is cheaper than what you pay for your alf pellets, it could be a replacement. I’m guessing it’s not cheaper than your oats.
The 2 Standlee products are about $`10 more than this product, but you’re also getting more in it, so it’s really not comparable. I’d compare the cost of this Unbeetable Forage Only + a serving of Outlast, to see which was more cost efficient. What I can’t find is how much of the Standlee gastric product you have to feed to more or less contain a serving of “Outlast”.
The other one is just more $
Our Vermont Blend Pro covers the yeasties and probiotics. I also use Tractguard for the Butyric Acid. The feeding rate of the Standlee would be higher than my easy keeper needs for him to get those benefits.
The cost of the Standlee is also a lot more. At a feeding rate of 5 pounds a days (too much for us), it would cost $3.12 a day to feed this. Right now, hay pellets, beet pulp and tract guard cost me a total of $2.52 per day. If I add the VBP to that, that gets me to $4.02 a day and that offers much more than just the probiotics.
If I swap the beet pulp and hay pellets ($2.14/day) to the Unbeetable that gets me at $1.66 per day at a 3 pound feeding rate (what he’s getting in hay pellets now). So that actually does save me a little!
I am getting it for my 34 year old, 225 lb mini that is not really interested in eating hay but loves the alfalfa cubes. He needs more fiber and this works well for him.
I got one of my two bags so far today…somehow they ended up on two different fedex trucks
Excited to see what a certain fjord thinks!
Verdict is in, Unbeetable is preferable to not so picky fjord palates over alfalfa/timothy pellets. The size of the pellets is absolutely great for his auto feeder too. Much better than the hay pellets.
Oooo…those Standlee products! I really like that Smart Carb one. I might be able to eliminate more scoops of stuff. Hmmm…
I picked up my two bags that I had shipped to the nearest Tractor Supply store today.
I look forward to testing it out tonight.
Pick up in the store was easy. It is the first time I have done that.
I feed my easy keeper a beet pulp and alfalfa cube mash as a carrier for a vitamin mineral supplement and ground flax and salt. She doesn’t need extra calories. If I wanted to add oats I would add to mash.
The feed discussed here doesn’t exist in my market. If it did, I might crunch numbers and see how it priced out compared to my current setup.
It sounds like it might be more palatable for horses that don’t like wet food. And simpler if you don’t want to soak. I do use mash to get water into maresy. Also the mash makes things expand a lot so maresy thinks she’s getting a huuuge meal when it’s really a pound of beet pellets and 5 alfalfa cubes, so winwin all the way!
We don’t have a great RB choice in my market so my mash + VMS is basically doing the RB job.
If you are already happy with an oats + RB diet and want the extra calories from oats, there’s no point substituting a beet pulp/alfalfa pellet because that’s just basically a forage level mash without much more calories than a pound of hay.
I understand oats can help balance the calcium in alfalfa hay so that’s a good match.
It’s here and I must say I am impressed it’s wrapped in plastic From the KY distribution center. Is it raining there?
I’m planning to see how the Unbeetable soaks tomorrow; it looks like it might mash up fast than the shredded beet pulp does. If it soaks better I may swap it for the shreds in his mash.
Charlie really seems to like it! He was excited for it today when I threw a handful in his morning mash so he’d finish it before we hauled out to trails.
Mine all arrived thus way too!
Since we are being all geeky about these
Presoak vs. Soak.
Green is the Unbeetable, the browner is Tribute Senior.
Pretty much the same size and the same expansion.
How long did you soak for?
Long enough to clean 4 stalls LOL! Maybe 20-25 minutes. I know the Senior takes about that to get to mush - and I do use cold water from the hose, nothing fancy here.
Awesome, thanks!
I do lose track of time in the barn, and really didn’t time it. Could be less. Was really just posting the pics for giggles
Soaking update, fluffs up within a minute or two with cold water! Significantly faster than beet shreds.
I just ordered two more bags. He definitely prefers the Unbeetable to his beet pulp shred mash so I am going to make that swap.
In case anyone is curious about weight/volume…I prepped containers last night subbing out the beet pulp shreds with the Unbeetable. Weight wise, 2 kitchen measuring cups of beet pulp (what he was getting) is ~ 7oz and the same of Unbeetable is ~ 13 oz. He will get less volume, but that’s ok since he seems to like it so much.