May I ask if you are surrounded by experienced horse trainers, why are you here seeking advice about what you need to purchase?
I am glad you have a lot of experienced help.
Good luck to you and your new horses.
Again beads and rubber bands were just something i wanted to add to the list of things i want to do. After breaking him id eventually like to try showing him. And i dont see anything wrong with that. I want a horse i can work on, a horse that i know where its coming from, how its been treated, what its like. And i know all of that. And he send me a copy of his registration papers and it was amazing to see his ancestors go back to 1934. I know what i am getting into, we all are. We already have a farrier, looking into vets, and have a few trainers we are looking into. So again i appreciate how almost none of you have provides any positive or insightful comments or information. Im not going to get him because hes a pretty horse. Im getting him because i like a challenge, i have a lot of free time to work with a horse and im willing and wanting to put forth the effort of making ali a great horse.
Because there is no such thing as asking too many questions and wanting insight from other experienced horse owners. Ive got an idea of what all i can get before we get him and what needs to wait until hes here for.
Congratulations on getting horses.
One thing you may want to do is to make sure you do some research on caring for senior horses.
Some people think they donât cost as much to take care of by the fact is it is quite the opposite.
Need their teeth floated more often.
Older horses can get metabolic disorders like Cushingâs.
The medicine for that can get very expensive.
Not to rain on your parade but it is better for you to know ahead of time what you are getting into with an older horse.
Can your uncle have her teeth floated before you bring her home?
Can you have her current vet run a blood panel to see if she has anything going on?
Hope this helps. And I truly do wish you and your horses well.
Rest assured, if heâs an Arabian, his pedigree goes back much further than 1934 
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Again beads and rubber bands were just something i wanted to add to the list of things i want to do. After breaking him id eventually like to try showing him. And i dont see anything wrong with that. I want a horse i can work on, a horse that i know where its coming from, how its been treated, what its like. And i know all of that. And he send me a copy of his registration papers and it was amazing to see his ancestors go back to 1934. I know what i am getting into, we all are. We already have a farrier, looking into vets, and have a few trainers we are looking into. So again i appreciate how almost none of you have provides any positive or insightful comments or information. Im not going to get him because hes a pretty horse. Im getting him because i like a challenge, i have a lot of free time to work with a horse and im willing and wanting to put forth the effort of making ali a great horse.[/QUOTE]
People did give you insightful comments. When threads like this come up people will point out that this is not the best idea for a novice horse owner. If my 16 year old self came on here with questions about my first two horses I would have received the same comments. One was a yearling and the other an ottb that was way too much horse for me. It all worked out but I would caution anyone against doing what I did. In my case too, I had 5 years of catch riding difficult horses under my belt because the nice horses were saved for the kids who showed the circuit. I also already had an outstanding group of people around to help me.
We do care about horses and keeping them and their owners safe, thatâs why we consider and share all possibilities and pitfalls, most we learned by falling into those pits, just trying to help others avoid the same costly and sometimes injurious to human and horse mistakes.
I think you are a little light in your gas estimate of $400 for 13 hours each way, there are some pretty worthy, loooong fuel gulping grades along the Tenn, Ky line each way no matter which Interstate you chose and lots of lesser ones. Weather (ice, landslides) can be a problem until late spring so waiting is a great idea. As is getting everything ready before bringing them down, which we didnât know from your original post.
Good luck. Donât be afraid to share with us, just ignore whatâs not helpful.
You say you have kids. Why not get something they might be able to ride too instead of an unbroken Arabian stallion who might very well hurt them?
Also please tell me your secrets re: time Management because as a mother of 2 I have zero time, not plenty of time!!!
I was a trainer for many years and the worst kind of horse a person can buy as a first horse is something green. The older mate might be just the thing for you, though. I would get her and leave the stallion. She sounds like a good first horse.
I know you probably donât want to hear this but over the winter I would suggest taking some riding lessons. You want to be in top riding shape to take on an untrained just late gelded stallion. Sometimes those stallion traits never leave them when gelded late? Has he done any breeding?
It isnât like you will just hop on and go trail riding. I took lessons for a 1 1/2 years with a very tough instructor who pushed us but correct riding. He would often push us out of our comfort zone but knowing we were ready but the students not so much. It built confidence. It wasnât until riding for 2 years that I searched out my first horse who was 14 years old but a bit of a handful. It took riding 5 days a week with professional rides to get him going safely. A few years later we even showed with much success but it was a long hard road because of his age and lack of training as a youngster.
Also pulling a big truck like yours with a load really sucks a lot of gas. You have really under budgeted for that.
Sarahfay94, when you are responding to a particular comment posted by someone, click on the icon at the bottom of that comment âReply With Quoteâ and it will display that post within your comment. This is a good thing to do so that readers can understand who or what you are responding to. Otherwise, your comments/answer will be chronologically listed among other comments and will make no sense out of context.
Also, you may see people referring to you as OP, which stands for Original Poster. This is used often because the screen names can be forgettable or hard to access in the middle of typing a comment.
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You say you have kids. Why not get something they might be able to ride too instead of an unbroken Arabian stallion who might very well hurt them?
Also please tell me your secrets re: time Management because as a mother of 2 I have zero time, not plenty of time!!!
I was a trainer for many years and the worst kind of horse a person can buy as a first horse is something green. The older mate might be just the thing for you, though. I would get her and leave the stallion. She sounds like a good first horse.[/QUOTE]
Two girls. One is 5 other turned one in july. Both are used to being around a large variety of animals. We usually go up to the property most weekends and they have a horse, pigs, chickens, turkeys and dogs. And the girls ride daisy who is a 15 year old quarter horse. As for time, i have plenty of it. During the day my 5 year old is in school. After that i have a few days a week i drive an elderly woman around to drs appointments and other than that i take the dogs to the dog park, on hikes and trails, they come to the property with us a lot of the time. Prettt much we dont go anywhere without the dogs. So this trip will be their first time away from us for a few days. Our one year old only has spent a few nights away do she may be a little more upset but our 5 year old goes to her grandmas/dads about twice a month. So i mean yes i do have quite a bit of free time since im no longer working.
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Two girls. One is 5 other turned one in july. Both are used to being around a large variety of animals. We usually go up to the property most weekends and they have a horse, pigs, chickens, turkeys and dogs. And the girls ride daisy who is a 15 year old quarter horse. As for time, i have plenty of it. During the day my 5 year old is in school. After that i have a few days a week i drive an elderly woman around to drs appointments and other than that i take the dogs to the dog park, on hikes and trails, they come to the property with us a lot of the time. Prettt much we dont go anywhere without the dogs. So this trip will be their first time away from us for a few days. Our one year old only has spent a few nights away do she may be a little more upset but our 5 year old goes to her grandmas/dads about twice a month. So i mean yes i do have quite a bit of free time since im no longer working.[/QUOTE]
Also i have a pretty good system now that ive had time to figure it all out. Certain days i clean the house (which is small only 976 sqft) but with two kids and 4 dogs it does get dirty. So like i said certain days of the week i do certain cleaning and just pick up at night and sweep and mop the floors. (4 dogs = a lot of dirt) bathe the baby at night and the older one in the am. She does homework straight after school, then is allowed to play outside with her friends which is usually when we make dinner etc. Its all anout finding when the best time to do everything is.
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I know you probably donât want to hear this but over the winter I would suggest taking some riding lessons. You want to be in top riding shape to take on an untrained just late gelded stallion. Sometimes those stallion traits never leave them when gelded late? Has he done any breeding?
It isnât like you will just hop on and go trail riding. I took lessons for a 1 1/2 years with a very tough instructor who pushed us but correct riding. He would often push us out of our comfort zone but knowing we were ready but the students not so much. It built confidence. It wasnât until riding for 2 years that I searched out my first horse who was 14 years old but a bit of a handful. It took riding 5 days a week with professional rides to get him going safely. A few years later we even showed with much success but it was a long hard road because of his age and lack of training as a youngster.
Also pulling a big truck like yours with a load really sucks a lot of gas. You have really under budgeted for that.[/QUOTE]
I ride every weekend. As for gas, that is what was estimated with pulling a trailer and horse. Even though we estimated $400 for gas as i said id still like to have $1000 before we go up there.
Who estimated the gas consumption? Or was that off a chart or Google? Just $400 for pulling a trailer with two horses (even the smaller, lighter Arabs) seems low to me.
Have gone round trip between Cincy and Atl numerous times, 8 hours each way total 16 hours, and it was well over 100 every time, closer to 200 if unlucky with traffic, construction or weather delays. For a 6cyl SUV (older Lexus RX).No trailer.
Just canât project that to a truck and trailer and a 26 hour round trip coming out to 400 over much of the same route including the mountains, even a diesel.
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Who estimated the gas consumption? Or was that off a chart or Google? Just $400 for pulling a trailer with two horses (even the smaller, lighter Arabs) seems low to me.
Have gone round trip between Cincy and Atl numerous times, 8 hours each way total 16 hours, and it was well over 100 every time, closer to 200 if unlucky with traffic, construction or weather delays. For a 6cyl SUV (older Lexus RX).No trailer.
Just canât project that to a truck and trailer and a 26 hour round trip coming out to 400 over much of the same route including the mountains, even a diesel.[/QUOTE]
The truck isnt a diesel. Its the 6.0l gas engine. We estimated with a trailer and horse wed get about 10mpg. Weve pulled a lot of heavy stuff with this truck so we know about what gas will be.
What are you going to do with your 1 year old while you are working this unbroken former stallion? What if you get hurt while working with him? Do you have care in place or can you afford to hire a babysitter to watch her? or will you only be able to work the horse at night when your DH can watch the child? will that be regular/will he appreciate you being gone every night at the barn instead of spending time with him and the kids? when working with an inexperienced horse you need to be able to provide a regular, preferably 5-6 day a week schedule and you need to have another adult there with you for safety.
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What are you going to do with your 1 year old while you are working this unbroken former stallion? What if you get hurt while working with him? Do you have care in place or can you afford to hire a babysitter to watch her? or will you only be able to work the horse at night when your DH can watch the child? will that be regular/will he appreciate you being gone every night at the barn instead of spending time with him and the kids? when working with an inexperienced horse you need to be able to provide a regular, preferably 5-6 day a week schedule and you need to have another adult there with you for safety.[/QUOTE]
We have a lot of people at the property who help with taking care of the kids they are all close friends of ours. And they have no problem with helping watch her and help with the horse. Weve already discussed this.
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Guys- no where did she (he?) say she was an inexperienced rider, or has never trained an unstarted horse, or doesnât have a trainer, or has never owned/ leased/ been responsible for a horse, or doesnât understand vaccination protocol, or ⊠etc etc etc
I agree, doesnât sound like a great plan, BUT we donât know a lot of the variables. Need more info. Maybe sheâs the last option for a soft landing for these two.
OP: if youâve committed to these specific 2 horses already:
- Get the stallion gelded, asap.
- Trailer cannot be a 2 horse. Need at the minimum a 4 horse slant so you can put an empty space in between them.
- They need negative coggins & a health cert.
- Stop at FL ag station (and have the above papers. They check.)
- Bring at least 5 bales of OH hay with you. All you really need âequipmentâ-wise right now is a halter & lead each. I wouldnât bother with shipping boots on unbroken older horses like these.
- When you get them home do NOT turn them out together. Need to be stabled and pastured separately, for at least 3 months.
- Be careful and have fun getting to know them! Donât be too worried about a âbondâ forming between you and them too soon. Just keep them and you safe and the rest will come.[/QUOTE]
LOVE your sig line! :lol:
OP, keep in mind that there is no such thing as a âfree horseâ. You are going to have to devote a LOT of time into re-training that newly gelded horse. My âheart horseâ was a purebred Arabian and he had been gelded for 3-4 years prior to my acquisition of him. He was dead-broke to most things except that he had one lead and two speeds: dead stop and full, flat-out run. He also knew what his man parts were for and he wasnât afraid to use them. It took me a lot of timeâŠsteady, every day timeâŠto get him where I wanted him. I did get him there, but it took a very real time commitment. Not training in spurts. Be very sure you are ready to commit to that, or Iâd leave that guy behind.
I could trace my guyâs pedigree back to the 1700s. I could probably go further with the EAO if I wanted to. I wouldnât focus on that part much. Focus on what is in front of you TODAY.
Since you have figured everything out⊠why did you bother to ask? You apparently have it all together.
PS. How on earth would we know the BEADS came from your WEDDING?
Apparently, I failed my human communicator test on this thread.
You said goodbye but still come on here and reply⊠and continue to know IT ALL. Bye Felicia
