Elizabeth I don’t know you so I have no personal ax to grind. I have never had or will ever be involved in ponies. What you don’t understand is just the fact that you have a list of injections that reads like someone from a recent episode of INTERVENTION is enough to make us all dispise you. You have done the ONE unforgivable thing…you have not been a good steward to your animals. You might think you have but if you are giving them drugs to perform you have lost all empathy. You can’t even seem to grasp it even when people keep saying it over and over. You can’t even keep proper track of the animals since you even said one would have tested. It is frankly appalling. As a WB breeder myself I hope not to cross your path. The first step to redemption is to say I am sorry followed by I will never let it happen again on my watch. Defending the indefensible will get you no where.
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Who gives a crap? They can ban anybody they want for any reason and YOU have already been banned and don’t belong here. If you want to use this organization to spout your BS buy an ad.[/QUOTE]
:lol::lol: Guys, let her stay!!! She is digging her grave one post at a time! 
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:lol::lol: Guys, let her stay!!! She is digging her grave one post at a time! ;)[/QUOTE]
I felt that way at first too but she is just spouting the same crap over and over again like one of the Stepford wives.
Two words >>>LANCE ARMSTRONG
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Two words >>>LANCE ARMSTRONG[/QUOTE]
Not even a little bit. Lance had a choice.
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Devon expects you to ship in from Florida with hardly any rest period for the animals and banamine and robaxin were are humane given the distance they traveled and workload they were under.[/QUOTE]
Expects? What? Here’s a novel idea: Take some time off. Skip a horse show or two and turn them out. They’ve already qualified for Devon. Why not toss them in the pasture for two weeks and let them be horses? Devon doesn’t expect anything.
Did she already take the “report” from the necropsy down from her website? The link seems to be broken.
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Please everyone, report her posts to the mods and ask why in the hell she is allowed to post here after being banned. If they didn’t back down from Jill Burnell’s constant threats to sue (who has not been banned by the way) then there is no reason they should allow her to broadcast her BS on their bandwidth after being banned.[/QUOTE]
this is about laurie mcdowell, laurierace
http://angelacreshorsehavenrescue.blogspot.com/2009/06/laurie-mcdowell-slanders-angel-acres.html
Yep, I don’t like injustice. Nice attempt at deflecting.
While I think think this pony was getting way too many drugs, getting Legand - and Adaquan - the day of competition is fairly normal practice. Back during the '96 Olympics, the Racehorse farm I worked at hosted two teams, and quite a few indiviuals, and rare was the horse that was NOT getting Adaquan or Legend shots.
Now, I don’t think that justifies it, but I would rather see a horse on Legand or Adaquan then say, Bute, Banimine, etc.
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this is about laurie mcdowell, laurierace
Right, because I believe someone who doesn’t know the difference between slander and libel. :rolleyes:
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While I think think this pony was getting way too many drugs, getting Legand - and Adaquan - the day of competition is fairly normal practice. Back during the '96 Olympics, the Racehorse farm I worked at hosted two teams, and quite a few indiviuals, and rare was the horse that was NOT getting Adaquan or Legend shots.
Now, I don’t think that justifies it, but I would rather see a horse on Legand or Adaquan then say, Bute, Banimine, etc.[/QUOTE]
Don’t you think that an Olympic horse is competing under a much different stress load than a pony jumping a 2’3" course?
I’ve read every post here, and I’ve followed other EM wrecks in the past, and all I can say is that I can’t believe this [person] is still in business, especially after what’s been posted here. Is there seriously not ONE of her 9 attorneys telling her to just [edit] stop posting?!
From a purely ethical standpoint, how does repeatedly injecting horses with Legend during a week differ from the good ol’ days of buting up Trigger? Bute’s side effects notwithstanding, isn’t repeat Legend injections a similar form of cheating by way of altering a horse’s natural movement?
Now let’s look at it from a medical standpoint with a heavy show schedule in mind. A horse that shows 20-30 weeks a year, by the above 1st then 2nd 48 hours later schedule, would receive at least 40-60 Legend injections annually (1-2 “show days” with no injections during off weeks)? Over how many years?
That can’t be good for them, can it?
I hope all you people that voted to get rid of the little red thumb are proud of yourselves.
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I hope all you people that voted to get rid of the little red thumb are proud of yourselves.
:D[/QUOTE]
Ha ha! I was a fan!
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As I said before, and someone else also mentioned, it is not an uncommon protocol to give Legend the day of the show. Some vets recommend repeating the dose every 48 hours for competition, so, 48 hours out and then the morning of the show day. Your husband might not be one of those recommending that program, but there are a number of barns that have been following those recommendations and find them to be effective.[/QUOTE]
I would not be surprised to find that if a clinical study were carried out, the “effectiveness” noted by “a number of barns” would simply be a placebo effect.
In addition, Legend is labelled for a maximum administration of 3 doses, 1 week apart. Safety studies used a maximum administration period of 1 dose a week for 9 weeks. While some veterinarians may be recommending Legend’s use Q 48 H during competition, that use is certainly off label and has not been evaluated in any clinical studies to date.
Very few trainers, if any, have any background in veterinary pharmacology; it’s no wonder that horses/ponies continue to drop dead at shows. I hardly believe the AVMA would support veterinarians dispensing and recommending such off-label use of many of these “common” horse show drugs. There really is no defense for it.
I think the 12-hour cutoff for drug administration should pertain to all medications and drugs. No competition horse/pony should be stuck 2 hours prior to a class to receive anything.
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I hope all you people that voted to get rid of the little red thumb are proud of yourselves.
:D[/QUOTE]
I have to admit, I was thinking earlier the red thumbs would get a LOT of use on this thread!
^^^^agree. Why would a vet say to give it so often?? I can think of $$$$$ reasons why.
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Right, because I believe someone who doesn’t know the difference between slander and libel. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
Well actually I did say it directly to the person in question as opposed to in writing so she may be correct there. She was the one who chose to make it public.
