Here is the link to the USEF Transcript of the Humble (Kristen Williams) Hearing just to prove I have NOTHING to hide:
http://amberhillponies.com/Amber_Hill_Farm/USEF_Williams_Transcript.html
Take note on how the hearing committee drills her.
EM, I spend over 12weeks on the road at a time in Australia. This includes once or twice a week trips that usually take well over 5 hours. I have NEVER had to give my horse a drug before it competed. Instead I behave like a real horse person and take each horse for long walks all through the day. I get up as earlier as I have to make sure every horse is walked before breakfast. I then like to saddle them up and take them for a nice big walk before their first class I use this time to assess whether the horse will be ok to compete. If it is too stiff and sore the first day after a long trip then I SCRATCH IT! Any time I am not on a horse I am making sure all mine have enough time out of the stable so they are not sore. but your probably to lazy to Put in the real hard yards of proper horseman ship. Why would you if you could just jab darling ponies with a cocktail of drugs.
If your horses aren’t up to competing without 15 drugs then it shouldn’t be competing full [edit] stop.
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Here is the link to the USEF Transcript of the Humble (Kristen Williams) Hearing just to prove I have NOTHING to hide:
http://amberhillponies.com/Amber_Hill_Farm/USEF_Williams_Transcript.html
Take note on how the hearing committee drills her.[/QUOTE]
That is about as clear as mud.
No really, I can’t read it at all…too blury.
Estrone is sometimes prescribed for geldings with stifle issues. Either tightens or loosens, I don’t recall which. I believe, tightens.
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DMK, (and others) – What is the therapeutic benefit of giving a gelding a female hormone? What therapeutic issue is that addressing? (Unless the pony is having sexual orientation problems it is trying to resolve.)[/QUOTE]
Whew. Thought it was just me.
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That is about as clear as mud.
No really, I can’t read it at all…too blury.[/QUOTE]
And here is the Marks Dismissal Ruling and Transcript:
http://amberhillponies.com/Amber_Hill_Farm/USEF_Marks_Dismissal_Ruling_and_Transcript.html
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And here is the Marks Dismissal Ruling and Transcript:
http://amberhillponies.com/Amber_Hill_Farm/USEF_Marks_Dismissal_Ruling_and_Transcript.html[/QUOTE]
Except those are from a DIFFERENT case against you! Just how many times have you been in front of a disciplinary committee?
I can’t read that one either. shrug
EM, seriously, why is it so important to you to prove your innocence here? It’s a BB. Who cares what they think? You won’t be able to change their opinion, even if Humble rose from the dead and told us all that aliens zapped him from space. :eek:
If I were in your shoes (which would be a rather strange occurance as we are very different people), I would remain silent and steadfast, allowing my ahem 9 lawyers handle the situation.
I would focus my efforts on continuing forward with training my ponies and preparing for the winter circuits. I would be spending time with my daughter on this New Years Eve (which is where I am headed so you won’t get a response from me should you address this post).
It’s just getting too much to digest anymore. :dead:
Just hit print and print them out… as parents, my husband and I are ALWAYS with our children. And read the complaint and it will all make sense.
[QUOTE=Lord Helpus;6754752]
Since the pony never sold, my guess is that it was not priced competitively for the market. Either that or no one wanted a small pony that could not win with an appropriate-sized rider on it.[/QUOTE]
Or the most obvious option: any prospective buyer would see the long list of medications the pony was getting and concluded that it couldn’t possibly be sound and/or safe, and also that it came from an unethical seller.
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While I think think this pony was getting way too many drugs, getting Legand - and Adaquan - the day of competition is fairly normal practice. Back during the '96 Olympics, the Racehorse farm I worked at hosted two teams, and quite a few indiviuals, and rare was the horse that was NOT getting Adaquan or Legend shots.
Now, I don’t think that justifies it, but I would rather see a horse on Legand or Adaquan then say, Bute, Banimine, etc.[/QUOTE]
Adequan and Legend are valuable additions when used appropriately.
However… this pony ALSO had banamine (and Robaxin) administered.
Anyone up for a quick trip to the USOC and/or the USA Anti-Doping office this week? Or maybe I can just ask the coworkers who have f/t careers at those offices on our next UTA weekend (of which there are more than a handful…the offices were rather empty during the Olympics this summer!)…
From the Humble/killed a pony/Williams case:
Ms. Mandarino did not attend the hearing, citing a death in the family. Instead, she produced statements attacking the motives of her critics and offering praise from clients, federation members and veterinarians.
From the Marks/verbal abuse case/RoyalT:
Two other significant factors impacted on the resolution of this matter. One factor was a reported death in Ms. Mandarino’s family that kept her from attending the hearing. Thus, the Hearing Committee was not given the opportunity to hear Ms. Mandarino’s live testimony and weigh her credibility first hand.
Guess that’s allegedly one way for your attorneys to keep you out of court/quiet.
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In case you have not read the nj complaint, there is already a lawsuit outstanding so it is not a threat. Anonymous harassment and defamation must be put to an end and I plan on achieving that.[/QUOTE]
You will lose this lawsuit. Your lawyer is doing you a disservice if he or she is encouraging you to sue the Chronicle for comments posted on the forum. Look up section 230 of the Communications Decency Act. It specifically states that website owners are NOT liable for defamatory comments posted by users.
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May as well throw whoever had Humble under the bus too…
Forget the boxed wine and popcorn, it’s New Years Eve. Bubbly stuff and shrimp cocktail for me-anyone want to share while we wait for the inevitable lock?
I think threatening to sue any poster in disagreement is worthy of a brand new ban.
Oh, yeah, thanks Tha Ridge, a puppy mill was included in past threads under the old screen name. I couldn’t remember the details.[/QUOTE]
I had been feeling a bit down about being alone on NYE, having to work in the morning and not having anyplace fun to go. Now, I am here with some broiled scallops, a pleasant cabernet (yes, I know… white food with red wine…) and another in the many great EM threads. It’s the MAJICK of the holidays I tell you!
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For all you legal eagles…how many states have anti-SLAPP laws?[/QUOTE]
Massachusetts does.
[QUOTE=Lord Helpus;6754737]
DMK, (and others) – What is the therapeutic benefit of giving a gelding a female hormone? What therapeutic issue is that addressing? (Unless the pony is having sexual orientation problems it is trying to resolve.)[/QUOTE]
Well, duh, didn’t you hear her say these drugs were preventatives? He was on Depo and Estrone to prevent him from getting pregnant :lol:
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Here is the link to the USEF Transcript of the Humble (Kristen Williams) Hearing just to prove I have NOTHING to hide:
http://amberhillponies.com/Amber_Hill_Farm/USEF_Williams_Transcript.html
Take note on how the hearing committee drills her.[/QUOTE]
Is there anywhere else I can read that? I’m not sure if its just that I’m on my iPad but I can’t make out a lot of those words. Same with the Marks one
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Well, duh, didn’t you hear her say these drugs were preventatives? He was on Depo and Estrone to prevent him from getting pregnant :lol:[/QUOTE]
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Massachusetts does.[/QUOTE]
I believe NY does as well.
The reason this is important (for those unfamiliar w/SLAPP – or Strategic Lawsuits Against Public Participation) is that the SLAPP legislation protects people from being sued for expressing opinions in public on matters of public interest. It would protect people who express opinions about Ms. Mandarino, who is almost certainly considered a public figure at this point.
