New York Times article - USEF and Humble

PS: Re – the accompanying video.

Someone posted waaay back that David Wright, who was the pro in the video had himself, been set down on more than one occasion.

If that is true then the NY Times should be made aware of that, too.

I do not know if DW has been brought up on drug violations, but if someone can confirm that, then it is important to tell the NY Times about their choice of professional to appear in their video.

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I saw that post. I did not see any sort of proof to back up that allegation.

I don’t know him, I don’t know anything about him, but that’s not the sort of accusation that should be thrown around if you can’t back it up.

I will say I’ve thought for years that the USEF website should have a place where anyone can search for a member’s history of suspensions. Once it’s in the magazine, or (more recently) on the website, it’s a matter of public record. Why not make it possible to check and see if the trainer you just met has a clean record, or one minor error in the last twenty years, or regular appearances on the suspension list?

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I saw that post. I did not see any sort of proof to back up that allegation.

I don’t know him, I don’t know anything about him, but that’s not the sort of accusation that should be thrown around if you can’t back it up.

I will say I’ve thought for years that the USEF website should have a place where anyone can search for a member’s history of suspensions. Once it’s in the magazine, or (more recently) on the website, it’s a matter of public record. Why not make it possible to check and see if the trainer you just met has a clean record, or one minor error in the last twenty years, or regular appearances on the suspension list?[/QUOTE]

^ THIS!!! A million times, this!!

I think it would be a good idea to make it easier to reference a lifetime administrative action or penalty record, or at least the last 10 years or so. Then we could be sure and not have to speculate, guess or try to remember everything for the last 15+ years

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Ms. Pam Mahoney, Are you accusing me of posing as an attorney? You must know as an atty yourself that this is against the law. That is quite the accusation. I suggest you IMMEDIATELY retract the accusation unless you have proof to support your claim. You have been so advised.[/QUOTE]

:eek:

[QUOTE=Kenike;6761935]
^ THIS!!! A million times, this!![/QUOTE]

Thirded!

[QUOTE=MHM;6761924]
I saw that post. I did not see any sort of proof to back up that allegation.

I don’t know him, I don’t know anything about him, but that’s not the sort of accusation that should be thrown around if you can’t back it up.

I will say I’ve thought for years that the USEF website should have a place where anyone can search for a member’s history of suspensions. Once it’s in the magazine, or (more recently) on the website, it’s a matter of public record. Why not make it possible to check and see if the trainer you just met has a clean record, or one minor error in the last twenty years, or regular appearances on the suspension list?[/QUOTE]

I was the one that made that comment. I personally witnessed three horses die at the end of his needle. One was a horse named Up Your Alley - he was the one that died in the trailer. The next one was named Roll the Dice, in his barn aisleway. The last was named Burglar, in the crossties at a Brownland Farm horse show. DW owned Roll the Dice but the other two were owned by customers.

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I was the one that made that comment. I personally witnessed three horses die at the end of his needle. One was a horse named Up Your Alley - he was the one that died in the trailer. The next one was named Roll the Dice, in his barn aisleway. The last was named Burglar, in the crossties at a Brownland Farm horse show. DW owned Roll the Dice but the other two were owned by customers.[/QUOTE]

I’m confused - did you make the comment under a different username? At the time you posted the post that I just quoted, you had only one post. If you’re going to make that accusation then please come completely clean with all your information. And the accusation was that he had been suspended or caught, not that he had administered drugs that killed horses.

And by the way, the NYT writer and some people in administration/counsel have been alerted of the existence of this thread, specifically in reference to the communications with members of TNYT that Ms. Mandarino posted where emails were revealed. Just fyi

Just for clarification–is the video’s David Wright the same as the guy in Tennessee (I think Tennessee) who is known as David Q Wright?

I can’t watch the video on this antiquated computer. :slight_smile:

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I was the one that made that comment. I personally witnessed three horses die at the end of his needle. One was a horse named Up Your Alley - he was the one that died in the trailer. The next one was named Roll the Dice, in his barn aisleway. The last was named Burglar, in the crossties at a Brownland Farm horse show. DW owned Roll the Dice but the other two were owned by customers.[/QUOTE]

This was …when? Did you go to the USEF and file a protest?

It is the same David Q. Wright in TN. The original post I made was not that he was set down, but that he uses drugs just like the others and that he has had horses die as a result.

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I’m confused - did you make the comment under a different username? At the time you posted the post that I just quoted, you had only one post. If you’re going to make that accusation then please come completely clean with all your information. And the accusation was that he had been suspended or caught, not that he had administered drugs that killed horses.

And by the way, the NYT writer and some people in administration/counsel have been alerted of the existence of this thread, specifically in reference to the communications with members of TNYT that Ms. Mandarino posted where emails were revealed. Just fyi[/QUOTE]

It was horsepuckies that made the original post, which I also saw. I’m guessing mods deleted it and thus her post count went back down to 0, and now 1.

The accusation the now deleted post made said nothing of USEF suspensions at all. It mentioned deaths that occurred, allegedly, after injections. I assume this is why it was deleted.

That is correct, thank you.

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Please everyone, report her posts to the mods and ask why in the hell she is allowed to post here after being banned. If they didn’t back down from Jill Burnell’s constant threats to sue (who has not been banned by the way) then there is no reason they should allow her to broadcast her BS on their bandwidth after being banned.[/QUOTE]

there are so many contradictions in the posts I should think it is a good thing to allow

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It was horsepuckies that made the original post, which I also saw. I’m guessing mods deleted it and thus her post count went back down to 0, and now 1.

The accusation the now deleted post made said nothing of USEF suspensions at all. It mentioned deaths that occurred, allegedly, after injections. I assume this is why it was deleted.[/QUOTE]

Glad to clear that up! Wish the mods wouldn’t poof things without at least leaving a trace…

We’ve removed/edited several posts referencing allegations made without any substantiation against another professional, as we did with the Humble situation before there was confirmation re: the pony’s death and some of the events surrounding it.

Thanks,
Mod 1

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We’ve removed/edited several posts referencing allegations made without any substantiation against another professional, as we did with the Humble situation before there was confirmation re: the pony’s death and some of the events surrounding it.

Thanks,
Mod 1[/QUOTE]

Thank you Mod1. I came on to delete my post and see that you have already done so. I understand now that I was referring to a post which was incorrect. I should have checked my sources before writing that post. Mea Culpa.

I fail to understand why my post was removed. It didn’t discuss or make any allegations against the trainer in question. It merely asked if the David Wright on the public NYTimes video was the same as David Q Wright in Tennessee. I can’t see videos, you see.

What’s wrong with my post?

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We’ve removed/edited several posts referencing allegations made without any substantiation against another professional, as we did with the Humble situation before there was confirmation re: the pony’s death and some of the events surrounding it.

Thanks,
Mod 1[/QUOTE]

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I fail to understand why my post was removed. It didn’t discuss or make any allegations against the trainer in question. It merely asked if the David Wright on the public NYTimes video was the same as David Q Wright in Tennessee. I can’t see videos, you see.

What’s wrong with my post?[/QUOTE]

It is the same David Wright; however, no one offered any proof of him ever being set down by USEF—just alleging that he had been.

I think Mr. Wright is an excellent horseman and was a great choice for the Times’ video.

I think the mods just removed the entire “line of thinking” and it’s relatives :yes:.