So where is this clinic…? Who is going!
ETA Poo nevermind for me. It’s in Iowa. If someone goes please let us know how it went. I’m morbidly curious.
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Interesting… now quoting Kelly on this page - on his FB page.
Online DRAMA is the last thing I want to see from a potential trainer.[/QUOTE]
For a guy who is so clueless about computers he cant post a video he managed to screencap a single post, crop it and re upload it to fb. I sure dont know how to do that from my phone. I can upload videos though!
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Sometimes you eat the bar, and sometimes the bar eats you.
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Interesting… now quoting Kelly on this page - on his FB page.
Online DRAMA is the last thing I want to see from a potential trainer.[/QUOTE]
I do believe kelly is his sock puppet.
Maybe Kelly could show us his clinic schedule for 2014 – who is hosting, where, when, who is signed up to ride. That might be very insightful since it’s “all over the world”. I’d love some additional information about Kelly and her Mom and their horses - as in how long they’ve been doing dressage and what level, who else have they schooled with, etc. That would all be quite revealing. Maybe some photos of them? Alot of smoke and mirrors but not much substantial which is a good reason to run away!
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I think all of you have something backwards. Peronace doesn’t ride for you or even me, he rides for the horse and his art. You either follow his artistic technique and believe in him or you don’t, it’s as simple as that. To go on and on doesn’t make any sense, especially if you’re not even willing to come out to his clinic.
For me and many others, we admire him greatly and will continue to work with him and get fantastic results. Criticism is one thing, but you people act like he owes you something. He does not! But you owe it to yourselves to keep an open mind and always want to better your horse. I took, as many others took, a chance on this man who placed an advertisement in a magazine asking for an opportunity to show us his technique. With my open heart and open mind, I am very happy that I did, and I know the others are as well.
But now you all are going to start picking on me because I support him? Because I work with him and get good results and I believe in his technique? None of you have seen me ride either, so I think this is a group of people who just want to hate on someone.
I said my part. Keep talking, it is pointless. Peronace doesn’t care what a handful of critics think, his amazing abilities speak for themselves as he gets results time and time and time again, and will continue to get booked to clinic after clinic after clinic.
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None of you have seen me ride either, so I think this is a group of people who just want to hate on someone. [/QUOTE]
Wanting to see how a professional rides can hardly be characterized as hating on someone.
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Saw this https://www.facebook.com/events/522997974474771/?ref=br_tf
Good news for the NJ fans![/QUOTE]
Oh boy. Those seem like nice people but they’re kind of basic 4H local type level H/J people. Why they’d be hosting a dressage clinic with a GP level trainer is beyond me. I didn’t even think they had an indoor (but I could be wrong). Or a dressage ring.
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It is up to you vfx111 to check it out, we will spring for the audit fee! http://www.suffolkstables.com/[/QUOTE]
You’ve got to be kidding. Lordy lordy. The assistant trainer there is a friend of mine too 
Maybe they do have an indoor, come to think. Because she rides all winter long? Hm… they are absolutely not GP dressage type people, that I am sure of.
$30 to audit?! No way. Unless someone else is paying. If they do, I will take photos and video (of the maestro, not of others unless they request).
To the fans of Mr. Peronace: If I am going to pay $75 an hour (or 45 minutes, don’t know which) for a professional’s work, I am going to want to see a portfolio of what he/she is capable of or some pretty darn good recommendations. That’s more than a good house painter or plumber makes, kind of up there with a nurse practitioner, course developer, or mid range programmer. No one would hire any of those people without some review of their credentials or a look at their prior work. Why would spending some significant amount of money on a horse trainer be any different?
We are not being snarky, mean, or difficult. So far, nobody’s been able to produce much of anything other than hearsay. Video? Centerline scores? Evidence of advanced training? Testimonials? The great trainer I ride with has all of these and more. We are just trying to help people be better trainer shoppers.
In case you didn’t know, the horse biz is full of people parading as experts. Sad but true. :mad:
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You’ve got to be kidding. Lordy lordy. The assistant trainer there is a friend of mine too Maybe they do have an indoor, come to think. Because she rides all winter long? Hm… they are absolutely not GP dressage type people, that I am sure of.
$30 to audit?! No way. Unless someone else is paying. If they do, I will take photos and video (of the maestro, not of others unless they request).[/QUOTE]
I’ll chip in $5!
He says he is doing clinics all over, but only 2 are listed. I wonder why he is reluctant to list the 2014 clinics?
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The assistant trainer there is a friend of mine too[/QUOTE]
Well, please, call the assistant trainer up. Ask about the clinic.
Lots of new content on the fb page now. We’ve inspired him I think. Still doesn’t answer most of our questions…
By the way, I don’t mean ANY DISS AT ALL ON THE SUFFOLKS STABLES people. Really, really, really. It seems like a delightful place to ride that fills a niche for beginner types. When I see they around everyone seems happy and well mounted. It’s just that seem completely NOT the type of barn/riders who need a grand prix level dressage clinician. I don’t want ANYONE to think I am being negative about them. Hell, I don’t need a grand prix level dressage clinician!!! I’m a ragtaggy local hunter type, for the most part. So I’m not looking down-- just puzzled why THEY are hosting THIS clinician.
Kellydressage: What Mr. Peronace is doing, atleast at the moment, is the equivalent of someone reading some college level text books at home and calling themselves a college student without actually being enrolled in a university. At the very least it’s misleading. At the very worst it’s intentional fraud.
Schooling GP and successfully showing GP are two different thing. Schooling GP but being unable to produce any evidence (videos) makes for an empty claim. Would you hire a person with an empty resume to do a job?
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Why they’d be hosting a dressage clinic with a GP level trainer is beyond me. [/QUOTE]
Because hes been cold calling every barn in NJ trying to set up clinics. I know because he called me out of the blue one day. I have an actual grand prix gold medalist trainer though and so politely declined.
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Because hes been cold calling every barn in NJ trying to set up clinics. I know because he called me out of the blue one day. I have an actual grand prix gold medalist trainer though and so politely declined.[/QUOTE]
I have now heard the same. I know 2 farms that engaged him. One didn’t get past a phone call and said he “was inlove with himself and completely clueless” and the other allowed him to come for a training ride on a horse. The folks who witnessed couldn’t stop laughing about the “maestro” he apparently calls himself and lots of other language that may impress newbies but was notably unusual (and funny) to real dressage riders. They said he was not the worst rider they’d ever seen, but had no business taking $$.
