[QUOTE=JCS;7343137]
I deleted my thing… But alternate_universe had already quoted me. Sorry about that![/QUOTE]
Peronace has fantastic grounds for a defamation and character assassination
Lawsuit.
Im saving everthing for him if he needs a file. The moderators would be very smart to delete the thread.
Its not productive at all. He has answer questions and none of you will put your real name down or post pictures or anything but you want to continue to critique. This thread is a waste
[QUOTE=kellydressage;7343139]
But that has nothing to do with dressage…[/QUOTE]
True, but neither do most of the maestro’s accomplishments either, since they seem to primarily be exaggerated, self awarded, or incorrectly stated.
So I posted my name and photos… Where are yours?!
[QUOTE=kellydressage;7343160]
He has answer questions and none of you will put your real name down or post pictures or anything but you want to continue to critique. This thread is a waste[/QUOTE]
He has not answered the questions about his fake address and claim to be publishing a book. He also hasn’t provided any real proof of himself or his students’ riding. He has provided no new information.
[QUOTE=fatorangehorse;7343148]
Agreed. His (and your) delusions that a few years of training and riding in his teens, a 20 year hiatus and lots of reading make him a dressage master are what we are and should be discussing.[/QUOTE]
Do you don’t know how to read? In his interview he says he took 11 years away to raise a family. He has been riding obviously up to the point of the things he did as a teenager. He also sold Chevy and bought a few and trained a few. He did teach for a while and continue to train just not at that level as Chevy. I think he is in his 30s, not sure when he got married and had children, but common sense tells us that he did not get married at 17, so obviously he continued to train for several years.
[QUOTE=kellydressage;7343001]
There are pictures but none of any of you![/QUOTE]
All right, here y’go.
And I will say that I am probably the LEAST accomplished rider on this thread
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And she is NOT a warmblood
[QUOTE=kellydressage;7343178]
Do you don’t know how to read? In his interview he says he took 11 years away to raise a family. He has been riding obviously up to the point of the things he did as a teenager. He also sold Chevy and bought a few and trained a few. He did teach for a while and continue to train just not at that level as Chevy. I think he is in his 30s, not sure when he got married and had children, but common sense tells us that he did not get married at 17, so obviously he continued to train for several years.[/QUOTE]
Ok - off on the years, still no evidence or knowledge of him in a very small community to substantiate any of his claims.
[QUOTE=vxf111;7343167]
True, but neither do most of the maestro’s accomplishments either, since they seem to primarily be exaggerated, self awarded, or incorrectly stated.
So I posted my name and photos… Where are yours?![/QUOTE]
Im not posting my information or pictures because I’m not saying I’m better than him or any of you. Im only a Third level rider. But you are a hunter and maybe I missed it, but where are the pictures of you performing Airs? Piaffe? Levade without a bridle? If you are going to knock someone, at least compare apples to apples. Really…
I just snorted tea out my nose.
So much for this shirt.
NJR
[QUOTE=kellydressage;7343203]
Im not posting my information or pictures because I’m not saying I’m better than him or any of you. Im only a Third level rider. But you are a hunter and maybe I missed it, but where are the pictures of you performing Airs? Piaffe? Levade without a bridle? If you are going to knock someone, at least compare apples to apples. Really…[/QUOTE]
Third Level according to what? You can hardly say you’re riding at any level if you’ve 1. never completed a test at that level or 2. willing to post any photos or video of you even schooling that level’s movements.
And the haute ecole movements are not part of any recognized dressage test, so stop trying to dangle them above people are actually competing and schooling for recognized shows. No one’s qualifying for the Olympics because they taught a horse “airs”.
Van Olst? :lol:
[QUOTE=carolprudm;7343187]
All right, here y’go.
And I will say that I am probably the LEAST accomplished rider on this thread
https://plus.google.com/photos/103406099668134314917/albums/5462609142849098097/5583652132904429762?banner=pwa&pid=5583652132904429762&oid=103406099668134314917
And she is NOT a warmblood[/QUOTE]
You are a lower level rider and you’re critiquing Peronace? You should be willing to listen and try and keep an open mind at this point. Your pictures I personally don’t think you’re THAT bad, but if you’re going to critique upper level with such a passion then surely you should produce something better then what you’re critiquing.
You are someone who would benefit greatly from a lesson with Peronace.
[QUOTE=kellydressage;7343203]
Im not posting my information or pictures because I’m not saying I’m better than him or any of you. Im only a Third level rider. But you are a hunter and maybe I missed it, but where are the pictures of you performing Airs? Piaffe? Levade without a bridle? If you are going to knock someone, at least compare apples to apples. Really…[/QUOTE]
Ok, then post your video of the maestro 
since he does aaaaalllll that!!!
[QUOTE=kellydressage;7343203]
Im not posting my information or pictures because I’m not saying I’m better than him or any of you. Im only a Third level rider. But you are a hunter and maybe I missed it, but where are the pictures of you performing Airs? Piaffe? Levade without a bridle? If you are going to knock someone, at least compare apples to apples. Really…[/QUOTE]
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
I really did think about posting links to pics and a video directly to this thread since Kelly seems to have no understanding of how to look at past posts (again, you can easily find pictures of my horse and I if you simply search my past posts) but I assumed this would be the response.
How about we all just stop posting and wait for Kelly/Nick to answer the major questions about the phony address and publisher claim? He/they keep skipping over those points because people keep asking other questions or posting videos and photos of themselves.
[QUOTE=kellydressage;7343203]
Im not posting my information or pictures because I’m not saying I’m better than him or any of you. Im only a Third level rider. But you are a hunter and maybe I missed it, but where are the pictures of you performing Airs? Piaffe? Levade without a bridle? If you are going to knock someone, at least compare apples to apples. Really…[/QUOTE]
Pretty sure none of us claimed to be Haute Ecole riders or do airs above ground! If we could do that, wouldn’t we all be “masters”?
[QUOTE=kellydressage;7343221]
You are a lower level rider and you’re critiquing Peronace? You should be willing to listen and try and keep an open mind at this point. Your pictures I personally don’t think you’re THAT bad, but if you’re going to critique upper level with such a passion then surely you should produce something better then what you’re critiquing.
You are someone who would benefit greatly from a lesson with Peronace.[/QUOTE]
Why do you keep talking in terms of “levels” if Peronace et al. don’t compete?
Well, just finished this thread and my “morning” coffee… Last night this only had 5 pages…!
Anyone contact the Dutch farm? I know a modicum amount of Dutch via the help of many dutch friends, but not enough to send off an email…
[QUOTE=alternate_universe;7343216]
Third Level according to what? You can hardly say you’re riding at any level if you’ve 1. never completed a test at that level or 2. willing to post any photos or video of you even schooling that level’s movements.
And the haute ecole movements are not part of any recognized dressage test, so stop trying to dangle them above people are actually competing and schooling for recognized shows. No one’s qualifying for the Olympics because they taught a horse “airs”.[/QUOTE]
Everything here with you is about ego isnt it? Showing blah blah…
Well, I have actually competed at training level and second level and at home I am schooling 3rd with hopes to compete in the springtime. But unlike you I have no ego!
The Airs is an art. Lets see your Airs pictures. Lets compare apples to apples or why don’t you just admit that you are jealous that he is superior and you simply do not understand how he could teach himself such wonders as a teen while you still struggle?
Listen, I get it, I do! He doesn’t compete but out of no where he’s everywhere. Of course you’re skeptical. But now that he has answered some questions, now that he has come forward and said he’s willing to work with any of you, but you still want to critique and and call him names this is what has me on the hook.
How can you critique someone you have never worked with? You can not! Its like criticizing a movie you have never seen.
[QUOTE=Sticky Situation;7343233]
Pretty sure none of us claimed to be Haute Ecole riders or do airs above ground! If we could do that, wouldn’t we all be “masters”?[/QUOTE]
Well I don’t know about you but my ottb does “airs above ground” with the same quality as this appy in question quite frequently. I should mosey on over to the SRS and show them a thing or two.
[QUOTE=Sticky Situation;7343238]
Why do you keep talking in terms of “levels” if Peronace et al. don’t compete?[/QUOTE]
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