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No more TBs to South Korea?

Given that the group is headed by an international businessman with dual citizenship, I think it’s less xenophobia and more… ??? I don’t know what the motivation is. PR? Trying to get in front of a potentially viral headline? Collectively, Americans really don’t like it when bad stuff happens to our Kentucky Derby runners overseas. Though we couldn’t care less when they go to slaughter or end up for sale on Craigslist here in North America.

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Interesting. Where are their citizenships held? The U.S. and Canada? Japan? South Korea?

I believe both Frank and his wife still hold Austrian citizenship in addition to Canadian.

I don’t think Belinda holds American citizenship. Not sure about Andy.

And they own most of United States racing. :woman_shrugging:

I see. Then I stand by my suspicion regarding the xenophobic probabilities.
Australia and Canada both allow the the slaughter of racehorses (as does the U.S. albeit in a backdoor manner, since the U.S. does not prohibit them being exported for slaughter.)

Singling out a small Asian country while nothing is said about English speaking or European countries that slaughter and consume racehorses, is disingenuous IMHO.

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Austria, not Australia.

They also have always been at the forefront of aftercare. They had their adoption program in Kentucky before they closed up shop there. Now they run it out of Canada.

But then there were the fire sales in CA and AB. All of the young stock and broodmare essentially dumped after the Adena crew jetted out of town as abruptly as they entered.

Their decisions never make sense to me. I am still spitting mad about all of those horses in CA and AB.

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Sorry I read Australia. Whether Austria or Australia, horse meat is on the table.

The hypocrisy bothered me as well, which is why I linked to this TB auction in Hemet, CA earlier in this thread.

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Shhhh don’t say that here. The coth mob will bite your head off for pointing that out.

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Nah, I mean, it’s just inaccurate :woman_shrugging:

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I bought a weanling filly in that auction, and I must say, she is quite the filly. The sale on her fell through at the auction, and all I can say is another man’s trash is someone else’s treasure. She will be three next year, and I can’t wait to see what she wants to do with her life.

I still am angered at the auction and how it was run, however. 90 mares and foals thrown on the market in November with little notice run by a cheap auction company.

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It really was awful wasn’t it? There was a lot of dubious business about non-payment of stud fees and A.I. if I remember correctly.

I remember that COTH members did their best to buy what they could. It was a fine thing to see.
I’m so glad your filly is a nice one and has a good home with you.

Anyway, the finger pointing by Stronach is laughable.

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???
Like @ladyj79 posted, the only thing we are going to say is that it is not accurate.

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For context, Equkelly believes there are too many thoroughbreds and that the COTH “groupthink” is that none of them go to slaughter.

She is very passionate about this opinion.

Numerous posters have tried to broaden her perspective and help her know what she doesn’t know.

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I am not sure why anyone would think we as a whole think any one thing. Anyone who has been around for any amount of time knows that not to be true 99% of the time. And on this topic I doubt they can find anyone who thinks that no TBs go to slaughter anywhere, so it might be the one time we do agree on something, just not what they think we agree on.

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I do not want to speak for her, but I believe she feels that way because she has very strong opinions formed from very limited perspective and corroborated by a small subset of out-of-date data.

She will preach those opinions and open herself up to comments. When (many) others point out the things I mentioned above and try to present the current reality, she appears to perceive it as us COTHers failing to acknowledge the problem she believes is so readily apparent.

The thing is, most of us have a handle on the complexities of thoroughbred welfare based on first hand experience and current data. So we don’t appreciate being preached to with misinformation and sweeping generalizations.

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Yeah but I was responding to Dani.

I’m confused whether people believe there is an active and legal slaughter industry in the US or whether they are speaking more hyperbolically like we slaughter them because we ship horses to slaughter in other countries, like a complicit moral argument rather than like a legal one

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Once again, what @ladyj79 said!

What do you think happen to horses in the states? Why just single out South Korea? Look up horses who’ve ran in the Kentucky Derby, of all races, and tell me how many you can find. Do you think there is a home for every single thoroughbred in the states? At least in South Korea, the horses don’t have to be exported over long distances (where they aren’t fed, kept in extreme heat, etc) like they are here.

For the following list, the year the horse ran in the Kentucky Derby is in parenthesis next to the name:

  • Hofburg (2018) last entered stud in Brazil. He has since disappeared
  • Lone Sailor (2018) last raced in an optional claiming race at Churchill in 2020
  • Hence (2017) last raced in 2019 in the Governor’s Cup
  • J Boys Echo (2017) last raced in a claiming race at Churchill in 2019
  • Fast and Accurate (2017) last raced in 2019
  • Suddenbreakingnews (2016) last raced in 2018
  • Trojan Nation (2016) stood stud in Wyoming last year, no stud fee for him this upcoming year

Shall I go on or do you get the point? This is just at G1 level, what do you think happens to the other thousands of horses at the lower levels? Surely we don’t have homes for every one of them.

-If my list is inaccurate, please let me know :slight_smile:-

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I don’t understand your post. Are you saying that you know these listed horses were sent to slaughter (in the U.S.) or just that you don’t know where they are?

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The point of my comment is that we don’t have homes for every horse in the United States, so trying to single out South Korea for something that we literally do here in the U.S (given that we export horses for slaughter) is xenophobic.

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Hofburg is standing at Haras Santa Maria de Araras. He looks well cared for.
http://santamariadeararas.com/garanhoes/hofburg/

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