Nooo, one of my favorite horses got hurt - Grumpy Small Mouth :(

Thank you 😇

Bye. Please stop riding your lame horse.

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I’m sorry, but the last picture tells me everything I needed to know.

I hope the good people are also suggesting that you not ride a lame horse.

Typical for younger riders that don’t like what they hear from more experienced horsemen/women. They often like to take their marbles and go home.

I hope you do learn to please, please wear a helmet. You, dear OP, only get one brain. Even the best, most sane, sure footed horse can trip and fall. I know of at least one young rider who suffered a severe head injury when her horse that she was walking tripped and fell.

Have fun on IG whatever that is :rolleyes:

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The pic says it all.
I wanted to give you the benefit of the doubt after your first post. But there are so many things wrong with that pic and your posts. You are only going to listen to the people who tell you what you want to hear. But I hope your new experts don’t agree with riding a lame horse.

I took a look at the Insta you made and it only adds to my sadness for Grumpy.

Stop riding a lame horse!!!

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OMG, why did I look? That is heartbreaking. Poor horse.

I am glad you have found some good people to help you. I hope you guys can get to the bottom of what’s making him sore after a ride. Maybe he needs shoes? I can’t tell from the photos if he has them.

I would encourage sticking around on this forum. I remember my first post on this forum, and it was not pleasantly received :lol: I took a long break, and when I came back couldn’t log into my account, so this one was made. However, I am glad I rode it out and stuck around – there is so much I have learned on this forum that no professional has taught me. The depth and wealth of knowledge on this forum is collective and invaluable.

Wishing you and Dallas the best. He looks like he is in great condition, and I also frequently enjoy bareback rides with one of my OTTBs too… (with a helmet :winkgrin: )

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She has a couple videos that say it all & not in a good way 🙁
https://www.instagram.com/p/CEj7dyVBeR3/?igshid=1hxqx3c56f8i4

That is absolutely disgusting. That horse is a freaking saint for not dropping her on her helmetless head. I wish Animal control had jurisdiction over stuff like this.

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I did have a horse racing vet out, she works out of Los Alamitos Race Track. She was the one who gave me a green light go on his health.

ANYWAYS, I have a sport equine vet coming out to see him. He is not be ridden until then. Just going on daily walks …

You people can be so rude to think I don’t have compassion for this horse. Get over yourself.

Thank you @beowulf - Support is what was needed and I’m actually a sponge when it comes to absorbing helpful information. I’m not a trainer. I’m not a OTTB specialist. I’m learning. I grew up showing Morgan horses and never having any lame horses to tend too.

Reached out to the previous owner to gather data she mentioned a website that should show all of all health records. Hopefully I can find it, does anyone know what website this would be for OTTB’s?

thank you for your help and to the rest of you, kindness does go along way …

:slight_smile: MJ

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There is no website for a horse’s health records. If the previous owner signs off her vet can release whatever records they may still have to you.

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I think what you see as people being “unkind” is actually people who care about horses being honestly shocked that anyone would ride a horse that was so obviously in pain. When you ride a horse that is hurting you contribute to his pain. People who care about their horses don’t want to do that.

It’s good to know that you aren’t riding him now. I hope you find a vet who can diagnose and treat whatever is causing your horse to hurt. It can be a very expensive endeavor, but it is part of responsible horse ownership and you’ll be glad that you made the effort. :yes:

It may be something simple that a good farrier can fix, or it may be much more complex. Either way, riding a lame horse can make his condition much worse and that much harder to heal and there is a real chance of causing irreversible damage. Good luck. :slight_smile:

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@CamoCowgirl57

Thanks for coming back and keeping us in the loop.

I am not sure what the old owner meant by a website with health records… but, you should be able to get vet records from previous vets if you find the old owners and ask them for permission. I don’t see why they would say no.

From the video some one else posted, he didn’t look anywhere near as sore as what I expected based on your posts - is that a normal day for him? It may just be that he needs shoes, if he doesn’t have them. I did note he was landing heel first, so I think it’s a reasonable guess he has some sort of residual hoof soreness going on. When he was closest to the camera I did note he had some very long toes, especially RF. Even if he has shoes, having long toes like that makes a horse sore.

Many OTTBs come from the track with very long toes - they are shod this way on purpose to increase “breakover speed” and presumably give them some advantage. Long term, it is pathologically unhealthy for their feet, and many TBs need a lot of R&R and/or therapeutic shoeing to get them back to normal. Been there, done that!

The “race track angles”, as they are called, can make transitioning barefoot post-track difficult, because the toe is so long – the longer the toe, the thinner the sole, which makes any horse sensitive and/or in pain when there is limited sole depth. It may just mean he needs shoes while his toe is brought back and his sole depth corrected. If he has shoes, he may need a different kind of trim, since his toes do appear long and that can make a horse so sore over their body. Did that with my last TB - chased a whole bunch of weird lamenesses that always blocked to the hoof; ultrasounds and rads looked okay (no injuries, no lesions), vet was very reluctant to blame the farrier, but I fired him and got a new farrier and my horse’s comfort significantly improved over one cycle, and by the second, all of his weird soundness issues were gone. From the outside, my horse’s hooves didn’t look horrible to the average person – but x-rays showed that he was approaching a negative plantar angle up front, which was contributing to soreness over his back and shoulders.

That’s just an “Occam’s Razor” guess. It could be any number of things, I hope you get some answers and easy fixes from the sport vet.

PS, if you ever have questions my inbox is open.

The crueler we (collective) are to someone, the more likely they are to shut down and become deeper entrenched in their belief[s] that their way is the best way, and we’re just mean-spirited. (Note: I know it wasn’t just you that posted) OP seems willing to learn – why not try to help versus deconstruct? It’d certainly go a long way to helping Dallas and OP as they figure out their new journey together.

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