Novice needs advices on naughty horse (We have a baby!)

FI, hope you enjoy your time in France. It is great there, isn’t it?

You wrote: "…rather than use a method that you are used to… " - my problem is that I do not have ANY :slight_smile: I’m trying to learn as much as I can, and sometimes I feel like soon I will be able to pass vet exams - we had have colicks, heaves, torn tendon, “barefoot” legs, inflamed saddle rub, now Guido with his problems. Each one is so different, different story behind, different character and temperament and all I can do - just watch, listen, learn and learn more. Maybe in 10 years or so I will start having “a method that I’m used to”, but not now. I’m like new open textbook with plain white pages.

Sorry for asking, but what’s wrong with my vet riding him? Is it not right? I do not know equine etiquette jet, but for me it seemed just right. I am sure it was giving her better idea about him and his possible health problems. Vet asked for it to see better how he is reacting, how he responds and how his back feels - after she checked him from ground. She even borrowed my helmet and boots.

She has 4 horses of her own. Actually Peter sometimes rides her stallion, as with her bad back (she had injured it when riding 5-6 years ago) she can not jump and Peter loves jumping.

I feel so lucky with my vet as she is nice, experienced horse vet, she also hasn’t have her “method that she is used to…” - if she has no answer she says so - “I do not know, let me search and check the possibilities out”. She lives just 2 miles away so she always are available for emergencies or just to calm me or Peter when we are overreacting. And how many of you have vet who is charging 4$ for a home visit? I think I’m really lucky to have such a vet. She really cares about horses.

You know Anna, Guido looks like he has just way too many problems for you to handle, especially b/c hes just a plain dark colored horse. However i would be happy to take care of all the problems for you and give him a nice forever home :winkgrin:

Kidding of course!! He is drop dead gorgeous and i just hope someday i stumble on a horse 1/2 as awesome as the ones you have!

I,too, am glad you are back on here, and was beginning to wonder why we hadn’t heard from you in a while.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with having a vet who rides the horse as part of an exam. In fact, we in the U.S. are probably all amazed and even envious that you have a vet that will do that. It is rare over here. I think the last time I saw a vet mount up as part of a pre-purchase exam was over thirty-five years ago!

Anna,
there is absolutely nothing wrong with your vet riding your horses. It is just never heard of in North America. First, you have to find a vet who can ride, then would have the time and be willing to get on your horse… as I said… unheard of in my part of the country. My vet has horses but is a very beginner rider and I know he is not always very comfortable around some horses (mine included at first)…

I just love that you don’t have any preconceived ideas and are willing to explore and try new things. That way you learn rather than just duplicate others’ methods and ways.

I am originally from France and come back once a year… I love visiting but I am always glad to go back “home” to Canada!!!

Some good news from past 2 days. Trainer was here, tested Guido and she is very, very positive about his future. He is definitely not a slaughter prospect.

The good news about our new boy is - at present he just needs a good schooling, and trainer is sure that he will be absolutely OK. It is not clear how much job his injured back leg will take, but in general - he might be even a good jumper. If you would know how happy I’m at present moment!!!

Our trainer was here another day, she tried him in many different ways and had not had found any faults except poor training. She is sure that within a month of proper training she will be able to give full evaluation but it is clear already that he will be OK - sports horse or just a hobby one, but he will be alive, and happy. What a relief! Vet gave the clear health bill, now trainer… And every next day he is more relaxed, more happy, and responds better!

Groundwork with him is piece of cake, he is so sweet and good.
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I will try a bit of Vetri-Cine (DMG) to reduce lactic acid levels and a bit of Ester C - he has spavine and had it as a youngster (he was always getting the best… thus probably many things too much - too much alfaalfa, too much grain, and not enough turnout and movements).

The main problem currently is - get him relaxed under rider (he is tense and frightened of riding and rider, not humans). With Peter he already has started to relax, as Peter is moving only small step by step, a lot of praising, and no punishment to get back horse’s confidence.

So probably the next week or so he will go to our trainer (for a month at the beginning) to see how far we can go with him. Peter as a beginner rider can not do it, he will only confuse the horse more. But in general Guido already tries hard to please the rider, and learns very quickly.

More news… We did AI to Giva so now fingers crossed… If we shall be lucky, there will be a foal… with For Pleasure blood, and back in both lines (inbreeding) Gotthard (so basically a nice little G- line Hano baby - it is my dream, oh dream… but you never know - some dreams might come true).
Here is our queen Giva
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And the most nervous news… Shella is now dripping milk, so I’m on foal watch tonight, maybe tomorrow, but anyway - any day now… Our FIRST foal!

Wow Anna! For a “novice” you sure have good taste, lol!

If your mare is dripping milk I think she is close!

Tonight is the NIGHT! 2 tiny legs are out! Keep fingers crossed!

Anna,
jingling for you and Shella… and all your crew. Of course, you cannot post without pictures!!!

We are all on pins and needles!!

All went well, chestnut mare, one white sock! Pictures will follow in a minute

Tonight on the way to stables
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The bag is opened - hello!
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First kiss
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With vet
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Up
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Where the food is?
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Up again
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Little bum
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Here we are!
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This is wonderful news…In a world where lately it has been all sad and angry news the birth of a beautiful baby just swings me! Congrats Grandma and Grandpa!!! and the name is? So what is your head count now? Just think back a year or so ago, no horses, now you are the best!

The name… let me introduce: Sonora II :wink:

The story behind the name : my niece Sonora was here last summer and it was her birthday when vet did ultrasound so we promised to name filly after niece and she will be proud Godmother - she will be here tomorrow to see the lil girl!

In details… I had a feeling that it will happen tonight, so Itook Shella in at 9 pm, went home to take the foaling kit basket, returned and there were 2 tiny legs. Until vet arrived (10 min) baby was out (born 10.05 pm) and I opened the bag and she said hello. She has funny grumpy voice, like her sire, and looks pretty healthy to me.

Placenta went out easy, cord broke naturally and Shella is a great mother (for me as she lets to do everything). And baby has plenty of milk so I can relax in all ways a bit now.

When lil one started to eat, vet left and I’m here. Peter is taking his turn in stable now.

Anna, Peter, & of course Shella CONGRATULATIONS!

Well done of you all. So glad to read it seems like it went very well & easy on Shella.
So now we are keeping our fingers crossed for Giva.
Oh how big a herd you’ll be having soon.

I hadn’t checked the thread in a few weeks. Wonderful news, glad to read the positive update about Guido, how fantastic, I’m so pleased for him.

By the way, can I have your vet, I love vets that ride your horse, no need to explain anything, they can just get the feel themselves for what’s right or wrong :).
My best friend in England is an equine vet too and how I would love for her to live closeby so she could hop on my boys more often. She only visits me once a year, so can’t call her my vet, just my vetfriend. But I know she rides horses of friends, for which she is also the practitioning vet. It’s not common, but having your vet as vet & friend is surely fab. :cool:

Congratulations Anna and Peter and Shella!!! Wonderful news and adorable little filly. Shella looks like a very proud momma. Thank you for the pictures too!!
Next year, you will have to go on Marestare for Giva so we can all watch with you!!

Oh, congrats!!! She’s beautiful!

She is gorgeous!!! Congrats!! :smiley:

She is absolutely beautiful! I am so happy it all went smooth and easy for you and the mom! :slight_smile:

Today we took 18 h old Sonora II out for her first few hours in pastures.

Doors open
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Here we go, world!
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You hold the baby until I chase these horses away!
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My absolute favorite picture today
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We must go there
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Mother and daughter
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The first run
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Congratulations! Thanks so much for posting those wonderful pictures. Good luck to all of you! And I love the name!

Beautiful Anna…simply beautiful…sigh :slight_smile: