Ms Chen,
I am sorry but I cannot just sit in silence any more. You do not have even a remotely correct account of what happened the night of this horrible tragedy; as somebody who had suffered such a tragic injury and potential loss; whose accounts of what happened on this horrible night were affected by emotional and physical shock as you were!
I was not allowed to comment on either LA Times article that you and your basketball team of attorneys including Allen Jackson one of the attorneys whom got OJ Simpson off for murder, tried to paint a picture of me which was absolutely atrocious and 99% untrue. I’m sorry that you believe that my actions were not in the best interests of you and your poor mother when I know they were. I know you believe that I lied to the judge in the courtroom but I absolutely did not, you don’t seem to remember a lot of what happened that night! But what you do remember you have now convinced yourself to be reality and it’s not. As you shouldn’t necessarily have clear accounts of what happened, as the person that I found screaming in terror with a broken leg twisted sideways was in massive amounts of shock! I did try to move your mom, and you, out of the middle of the road before being told by the 2nd witness not to try and move you guys, I too went into shock after stopping my truck after feeling my puppy move and then hearing your horrifying screaming! I never felt my vehicle hit anything all I did was Del my pup move and then hear the horrendous sounds and then stop of course to see what they were m, then I back up to you and your mom moving my truck the first of two times, when I came upon you and your poor mom as I said, I too went into shock I have never seen anything so terrifying in all my life! I was worried about you and your mom as well as myself and my vehicle being in the middle of the road and that was why my first instinct was to first move you and your mom, when I started to move your mom the second witness on the scene told me not to move her and that we needed to just call 911 my phone was not in my hands at the time but the guy who told me not to move you guys was already on the phone trying to get connected with 911, as was the second witness to appear on the scene already dialing 911 too, Indid not have my phone on me and they were already calling sonInjust kept talking to you and telling you it was going to be ok, but you kept screaming at me and repeating why did I hit you why did I hit you and that your father had died in the war and now your mom was dying too, you were screaming and hysterical and in shock, in no way did I believe that my vehicle had hit you though, you kept saying the same thing over and over still, Inwas there next to you the whole time but 911 did not answer the phone right away for either of the two guys waiting on the line, so it took one of those men getting in his car and actually physically driving to the fire station not more than a quarter-mile back down the road behind us and banging on the firehouse doors to get a hold of emergency services; hitch in fact that happened faster than the other guy whom stayed with me getting connected to 911 responders on the phone and dispatch coming that way!!!
You don’t remember any of this? But this is what happened! So I hope this clears up some fogginess.
Shortly after the 3 witness had went and banged on the firehouse doors we heard the sirens coming, and yes when we heard the sirens coming from the firehouse down the street that is in fact when I moved my truck now a second time, but just to the corner right there still, out of the way so that the ambulance could get to you and your mom! I never left anywhere and I was terrified for you and your mom, it was the scariest thing I have ever scene and you were so very much in shock and your recollections of what happened that night are just not correct!! But none of this matters, more than what mattered to me was once I found out that they were sure my vehicle accidentally hit you and your mom!
So that is why I needed to change my not guilty plea to guilty so that I could apologize to you properly for what happened to you and your poor mom, that it was in fact an accident, that I was not negligent and I was in fact paying attention, and that I did not see you, or know that my vehicle had hit you at the time! Easily 10 to 15 officers questioned me that night as you had continued to repeat that I had hit you, they/we looked all over my truck and they/we found nothing, as there was nothing that any of us could find! In fact it took diagnostics over six months to tell us that they found evidence to lead them to believe that my vehicle was “possibly indirectly or directly involved in the incident” but that it was inconclusive, which led me to believe and hope still that I was hopefully not actually responsible for this tragedy at all, so it was not until almost a full year that they told us they found some type of a shoeprint that in someway possibly matched your moms shoe print under the car, and that that had led them to believe that it was my vehicle the night of the accident. But before they told me that I didn’t believe it was possible!
That night I was leaving a clients home nearby getting horses onto a long distance transport where those horses go for the summer across the country nd it was after 9 PM at night, and very dark, I don’t know what you and your poor mom we’re doing walking on the road at that hour? But I certainly did not see you, I certainly did not know at the time that I hit you and I certainly did not try to cover it up on he scene or there after, in fact I was there to help and assist you! Myself and only 2 other guys pulled over at all! Just the 3 of us! Everyone else just kept driving by!
I’m a loving person and I wanted to be a veterinarian my whole life before training and I believe in saving lives and in helping .lives and that’s why I was there to help you I know that in your heart you believe otherwise, and you actually believe that I lied to the judge but you are wrong, as you are about a lot that happened that night and about me. I’ve wanted to reach out to you for many many months but I was not allowed to. That’s why the reason I changed my plea to guilty was so that I could do what is right and look at you and tell you how sorry I am for the loss of your dear mom, and that I hope in someway you will someday realize it was an accident and I did try to render your aid. That taking me away from my poor daughter who is only seven years old and is absolutely devastated by everything not only by what you have put out into the social media which is absolutely 99% not true and horrible as well as taking away her one single parent. As I am a single mother and you are not taking me from my daughter to feel some vengeance for me accidentally hitting you and your poor mom. I hope moving forward you will try to consider what you are doing to an innocent seven-year-old girl and her future with some of the hateful things that have been said and you continue to write on and accept that I am so sorry for your mom and you being hurt and it was an accident and I didn’t try to cover it up. I hope someday you will be able to find peace knowing that this truly was an accident and that if you in someway needed to hurt me and my daughter because of this to find peace that you have succeeded, my daughter is genuinely devastated; she is 7 and losing her mom for something her mom did not mean to do, and did not know that she did, the terrifying thing is that accidents happen every day and innocent people pay for them and as much as you think that I did something maliciously or intentionally or that I didn’t act in proper aid of you and your mom, you are actually not correct and your accounts re very faltered as you were in shock and your recollections of what happened are wrong but how could you expect yourself to not have been in shock with your leg broken the way it was and your poor mom unconscious next to you. I’ve never seen anyone screaming and crying as you were, or anything so terrible and I will never get over this tragedy. People who know me, who really know me, thy know that I am a loving and kind person, yes you bring up 2 bad reviews online that I have from one or two disgruntled ex-employee’s and or 2 unhappy ex client moms, that are now using this horrible tragedy as ammunition to hurt me,
But as God says the truth will set you free and I have been true to my heart and I’m doing everything that I feel is right and that is why I excepted responsibility for The involuntary manslaughter charge and I’m going to jail. I have young girls that I teach to look up to me, who will be devastated by this loss, I am a single mother who’s seven-year-old daughter will also be devastated by this loss, I take care of 15 animals every day that could end up displaced or homeless because of this loss, so please please please I hope you will stop posting such horrible things on social media, I did not comment on the LA Times article or any of the others but at some point if this harassment keeps up then a statement might need to be made, if not only just to defend myself and tell my side of the story as I am a good and loving and empathetic mother and I know you lost your dear mom and will never get over this horrible accident. It was absolutely as the judge called it “unfathomable” and Inamnstill in shock to this day, but not like you Ms Chen, You’re accounts are not accurate because of the degree that you were in shock and I’m so sorry!
I am a good loving and caring and kind person and the night of this horrible accident I pulled over to help you and your mom, I stayed the entire time to help you and your mom, and I only left when the officers told me to. I’m so sorry Miss Chen you’re in my prayers every day.
sincerely,
Nicole Herschel
For posterity.
wow.
Wait, is that really the trainer posting to the victim on COTH? or did someone copy/paste something from somehwere else? Either way, that response is cray-cray.
Yes, accidents do happen, but for all that is holy, stop trying to get the victim to feel sorry for you. Unbelievable. You KILLED someone.
Concealedweapon17, paragraphs, grammar, truthfulness and empathy are your friends. Are you seriously coming on COTH to attack the victim while trying to turn this around about what a loving and helpful person you are? Are you seriously playing the victim here? Are you seriously using your poor child (like you always do) to get sympathy from people? Wow. Just wow.
What’s next? Threats of defamation suits? Blackmail? The spread of more lies? :rolleyes: Team Chen here, since nothing from you is ever based on a shred of truth.
If you’re going to state someone can’t possibly remember a situation clearly because they were in shock, you probably shouldn’t argue that you were also in a great deal of shock and then expect your explanation to somehow hold more water. Because it doesn’t. Especially if you can’t count to 2. Or 3. Or 4. How many witnesses were there again?
Myself and only 2 other guys pulled over at all! Just the 3 of us!
So 2 witnesses. For the moment.
so it took one of those men getting in his car and actually physically driving to the fire station not more than a quarter-mile back down the road behind us and banging on the firehouse doors to get a hold of emergency services;
So one witness at the firehouse and one staying at the scene. For the moment.
Shortly after the 3 witness had went and banged on the firehouse doors[…]
And now three witnesses at the firehouse. Is there still one at the scene? I’m confused.
I really hope this is someone bored and trolling, because there’s a level of narcissism and victim blaming here that is unbelievable. In all senses of the word.
Based on the early morning timestamp & rambling style of the writing I’m wondering if some alcohol might been involved prior to this post??
I hadn’t even thought of that possibility. You’re right, it might be preferable.
It cannot have been an advisable decision to post this. Oh my goodness. :eek:
Sadly, she always writes like that. And the screen name holds up because it’s the name of one of her horses. Also, the same super apologetic and coherent statement has been posted as a comment to the brief article on the Malibu Times website.
I am flabbergasted that she would actually post a note to the victim on here as if she would frequent a horse forum.
Since you’re obviously reading all of this Ms. Herschel, what on earth made you think posting what you did would paint you in a positive light? We’re all expected to believe you after that rambling and inconsistent piece of victim-blaming garbage you posted? Rather than clearing your name, you outed yourself as a liar and a narcissist. And I just read the comments on the Malibu Times article, and another person came forward about you! How do you explain away so many people you have wronged? Clearly it’s more than the 2 you mentioned above, and clearly they have every right to be “disgruntled”.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.wikihow.com/Spot-a-Sociopath%3Famp=1
Someone needs to screenshot Herschel’s response and send it to Ms. Chen’s attorney for one.
I find it somewhat ironic that the first time I see a criminal of this nature is on a COTH forum of all places.
Don’t come here looking for pity or a place to admit your guilt. Someone lost their mother because of your actions regardless.
Oh. My. God.
What a delusional, insensitive rant. Nowhere in that incoherent rambling did you take one bit responsibility or show one shred of remorse. I sincerely hope someone sends this thread to the victim’s attorney.
#teamchen
Did she name her horse or was it already named that when she bought it? Odd name unless you’re an NRA fan.
vehicular homicides are much harder to try than are crimes like murder, IME. I tried a lot of murders and more vehicular homicides than any other person in my office. The vehicular homicides required very carefully proving the underlying act.
It does appear from this thread that the original case was mishandled and the vehicle was not seized on the spot, towed in, and examined for evidence. Sounds like the cops dropped the ball and then the DA did not want to try a less than perfect case. Happens all the time with traffic deaths. Everyone wants to say “accident” when it’'s really manslaughter.
The story around the death is tragic enough without adding the long post by the driver above. OMFG. I just can not believe anyone would write that and think it makes them look good.
I mean, since he was a prosecutor working in the DA’s office at the time I’m fairly certain Mr. Jackson WASN’T trying to “g[e]t OJ Simpson off for murder”, but anyway…
I truly wish I could say I was surprised, but she’s been a gaslighter for years. I sincerely fear for the futures of her young students if they do indeed look up to her, especially after what all of this has revealed about her true character. I would be yanking my kid from her program immediately, but I’m sure she’s playing the “blame game” and “poor me” card for all they’re worth.
How can you drive over someone and not know you have driven over someone?
When I drive over a frog bouncing across the road I feel it.
She is such … Can not think of a word I am allowed to post.
How does someone write - I am sorry but you should feel sorry for me because by me hurting you it has messed up my life.
:lol: Hush you with your pesky facts! She’s just bitter she got stuck with the attorney barely hanging on to his license due to 3 DUIs.
