Ok guys, How do I look?? (Hunting turnout and such..)

I have seen people verbally “corrected” for their attire, at joint meets by masters/huntsmen other than their own.

  1. In earshot of me, my friend was dressed down by an MFH for wearing a tattersall vest with her black coat because it was “too informal.” This friend was a past member of the MFH’s hunt, but still seemed a bit much to me. :eek:

  2. Male guests from a non-participating hunt were told to remove their scarlets. They ended up hunting in black ski parkas, in some embarrassment. I heard them remarking upon this between themselves. :frowning:
    As it turns out, the huntsman prefers that only the working staff wear scarlet so that they are immediately identifiable over the great distances.

Later that year, this hunt’s newsletter had a “funny” in it about you might be a redneck hunter if you wore scarlet to a joint meet as a guest or something like that. :no:

However, I have worn scarlet while hunting with this person and not been whipping in and was not asked to remove it. :confused:

My own hunts are “relaxed” about attire, but want you do the best you can. And most of us try and take pride in being well turned out for our country and Masters’ preferences. But I will say that the guest who came out the other day in Western gear could have at least put on a snap button shirt instead of a t-shirt. That was beyond the pale, IMO.

But, no one is going to confront her about it. Her sponsor, who was turned out well, should have advised her what was appropriate. And that person might be told to have her guest wear something a little less casual on top the next time 'round.

Anyone having conniptions about vest colors should see the vests some of we beaglers wear! You’ll understand the other reason for our sunglasses.

Sigh… .another rider with thin thighs… :no:

Actually, I think you look just fine - given what your hunt has decided is necessary for your territory. Here - with our mucky bottomland - the splint boots and bell boots would be crazy. And your glasses and pocket for water make sense in the desert. I think your breastplate is loose (between the front legs). Maybe it’s just me. As far as martingales and bitting - hey - whatever works for the horse.

If you came up for Virginia Hunt Week - you’d just ditch those - at least the boots. For safety reasons.

You look neat, tidy and workmanlike. Read to hunt! I like your horse. Where did you get your green jacket? There are rarer than hen’s teeth around here and very expensive. We wear them for basseting. Odd that they are not more easily found - we have several foot packs.

Funny you mention the length of your stirrup leather. I brought a pair in to be restitched and the guy asked who hacked off the ends. I sheepishly admitted I had done it. With rusty scissors. He replied, “It shows”. (he fixed the ends free - guess he felt sorry for the white trash foxhunter who can’t afford a decent scissors?)

Wow. Yeah - it’s not proper to wear scarlet if you’re guesting - but geez - I’d rather have scarlet than the Michelin Man running around. Though I understand why a huntsman would only want staff wearing scarlet.

The tattersall thing does seem to be a bit much. Who knows what runs through people’s minds?

T-shirt? Wow. I was under the impression that a member is responsible for the conduct and attire of their guest (within reason). I’d be mortified if my guest came out that casually.

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I got to hunt with Genesseo as a child and the Wadsworth kids often showed up on ponies with red western bridles. . .and finished the hunts.[/QUOTE]

Hey! How great to hear my hunt mentioned! While none of us resents perfectly turned out members, no one resents those of us who don’t get it right down to the last bit of tack or button. At least not that I’m aware of.

We hunt in all kinds of weather and our clothes often reflect this! It’s hard to get every spot of mud off your clothes and tack from one hunt to the next, and keep your horses going, fix meals and all the other stuff one must do between hunts to survive. In fact I often wonder why fox hunting hasn’t taken advantage of new fabrics that are easier to clean than wool.

I was very tempted to get a wintec saddle but didn’t only b/c they don’t fit my tbs’ backs well. But many people in our hunt use them and wintec bridles as well.

We don’t wear pinque coats because our hunt didn’t want to be mistaken for “red coats” back in the day when we weren’t so friendly with the English. Our colors are blue and buff and that’s what we wear, although a few of us still have black coats that date back to the time when only the men wore blue coats.

Regardless, we have a great time. Our hounds are incredible (forgive me for bragging, but they are), and I often become completely lost in the magical blend created by horses, hounds, riders and the fox.

We’re very informal during cubbing and after formal season, but that doesn’t seem to matter to anyone.

Here’s a link to photos of us http://www.gvhphotos.com/

Not only a t-shirt, but a faded navy blue zip-front hoodie over it.

But she had a helmet on, I will give her that.

“thin thighs”… RAR flings herself at J Swan’s feet and begins polishing her boots in gratitude (not to imply that J Swan’s boots need polishing, mind you… RAR is certain that J Swan’s turnout is impeccable)

I noticed recently that the strap going to the girth on the breastcollar was perhaps longer than it needed to be - but I don’t think it was as loose as it is in that photo. Hmm… I wonder if my girth is slipping forward? Must remember to take note of that. And to adjust the breastcollar, because even if it doesn’t start out THAT loose, you’re correct, it’s looser than it needs to be. One thing for certain - the breastcollar strap isn’t pulling the girth forward! :lol:

Where did I get my green coat? Hm. I think from one of the catalogs. The label says it’s a Tuffrider Show Coat, made in India. www.breeches.com

Looks like they now only make the green in polyester:
http://www.equestriancollections.com/itemmatrix.asp?groupcode=JP00276
http://www.breeches.com/Breeches_Tuffrider/polyester_show_coat.asp

They have a poly/wool blend in navy or black:
http://www.breeches.com/Breeches_Tuffrider/polywool_show_coat.asp

I’m tempted to get one of the polyester ones because I was sweating up a storm Sunday in my wool coat, looking longingly at our former Master, who was wisely riding in a much lighter coat.

Thanks for the links!

Yes, my dress boots are spit shined. With Parade Gloss. I looooovvveee Parade Gloss.

Well - no hunting on Thursday after all this ice and rain. Maybe Saturday. Hopefully. I hate this time of year. :mad:

If you’re looking for a green riding jacket, keep an eye on Ebay seller Anna Dressur - I think she had a couple of Pikeur green jackets recently (she’s awesome to deal with and her prices are excellent), and also (I’m beginning to sound like a broken record :wink: ) Ebay UK!

With much trepidation, I post a photo of Buddy and me at Opening Hunt.

http://djome.zenfolio.com/p1519236/?photo=h05129328#151535447

My tack had been approved by the Master prior to the beginning of cubbing season. Since my SI joint/pelvis is permanently messed up, my treeless dressage saddle allows me to ride w/o pain. And Buddy stumbles badly in ANY bit, so the MFH was cool about his bridle. Sunglasses are necessary since I wear contacts, and am very sensitive to light.

This was my very first season of hunting!

<ducking and running for covert>

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SteeleRider, VKent is doing just fine with her hunting kit because her EXTREMELY GENEROUS–nay, SAINTLY–mommy has given her a very handsome tweed hacking jacket, a vest, gloves, hunting tie, long underwear, stock pin x 3, etc. Before next formal season starts she will have a new melton. So no worries there.[/QUOTE]

I’m getting a melton? Good deal! And because you said that I will let you go on pretending you bought me 3 stock pins, even though we all know only ONE went mysteriously missing when I was 12. After that you banned me to monograms on my show shirts, and I bought my last stock pin this season haha.

Now let me get this straight, its possible to have the wrong kind of stirrup pads?!?! Just when I think I’m figuring this out the hunting fashion gods come and smack me down again! I just bought the “cheese grader” stirrup pads because when I’m schooling our hunt horses I get muddy and I do NOT like muddy stirrups with out traction. Galloping out those big horses (Cleveland Bays) is NOT fun when you can’t keep your foot in the stirrup. Are these incorrect?

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Thanks for the links!

Yes, my dress boots are spit shined. With Parade Gloss. I looooovvveee Parade Gloss.

Well - no hunting on Thursday after all this ice and rain. Maybe Saturday. Hopefully. I hate this time of year. :mad:[/QUOTE]

Parade gloss??? I’m guessing it’s nuclear grade boot polish?? Where does one find it???

I personally think you look gawjus, but I hunt in black gloves and a square green pad, so don’t listen to me!!! :lol:

Ah, Dr. Cook’s Bitless Bridle. rivenoak tried Prozac Pony in that once last season <snrk> - seemed like a good idea at the time. After all, I had evented him in it (only baby novice, but still…). Our theory was that a happy Prozac Pony might be a more cooperative Prozac Pony, and he does loff the bitless bridle.

I didn’t actually witness this myself, as she was behind me at the time, and I was desperately (and successfully!) attempting to stay on a bucking, head-tossing, cantering Mr. Blondie, but as I understand it, PP simply stuck his head down between his knees and showed rivenoak the virtual middle finger.

Yet another set of brakes went in the “Not such a good idea” column.

Well, you can join the military and get it at the PX. :smiley:

No way I’m doing that again (too old, too fat, too broken and arthritic)- so I just get it at the grocery store. It’s Kiwi brand. I used to get a fabulous spit shine with that stuff - but even just a brush shine is extra shiny. :smiley:

Barb - you look fine! I’m sorry that you have such trouble - how do you jump in your dressage saddle, though? I’m jealous you can hunt with no bit - Opie would take me on quite a wild ride if I didn’t have brakes. Come to think of it - he’s taken me on Mr. Toad’s Wild Ride with a bit.

I don’t know what the official/traditional rule is… but evidently we’re not supposed to have stirrups with any type of pad. Sidesaddlerider would know best - I’ve only been hunting for a few years. I think in appointments classes a rider gets dinged for pads. But double check with her.

Here’s a site with Parade Gloss if you can’t find it locally:
http://www.kiwishoeproducts.com/category_s/71.htm

You’ll see an instant spit shine product too - don’t use it!!! It looks like caa caa. Stick with the Parade Gloss.

Oh, my God, there goes the surprise. Stop reading this thread or I can’t keep any secrets from you. And you will only get a melton IF you show proper dedication to hunting. And I might change my mind
Miss Mare might get some hunting-related presents, too.

[quote=Vkent;3005325]And because you said that I will let you go on pretending you bought me 3 stock pins, even though we all know only ONE went mysteriously missing when I was 12. After that you banned me to monograms on my show shirts, and I bought my last stock pin this season haha.
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That was a solid gold antique stock pin you lost, young lady.

[quote=Vkent;3005325] Now let me get this straight, its possible to have the wrong kind of stirrup pads?!?! Just when I think I’m figuring this out the hunting fashion gods come and smack me down again! I just bought the “cheese grader” stirrup pads because when I’m schooling our hunt horses I get muddy and I do NOT like muddy stirrups with out traction. Galloping out those big horses (Cleveland Bays) is NOT fun when you can’t keep your foot in the stirrup. Are these incorrect?
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Some people have OCD. There is a difference between the perfection required when riding in an appointments class, and being out in the field. 99% of all masters will let you have a legitimate piece of equipment you need for safety, and if they won’t let you have something for safety you don’t want to hunt with 'em anyway.

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With much trepidation, I post a photo of Buddy and me at Opening Hunt. My tack had been approved by the Master prior to the beginning of cubbing season. [/QUOTE]

Minor points…no doubt some would disagree, but you sound like you are interested in being correct so here goes:

The tab midway on the rein could be clipped off; unless there is a reason for it? Also, is there an elastic extension in the rein (can not tell for sure)?

Sheepskin pads or something a wee bit more substantial looking that “frames” the saddle might make a nicer picture; it looks like you have a quilted pad but if there is a specific reason for it, then disregard;

Girth buckles are showing; again, this may be unavoidable due to saddle construction or whatever and if so, the point is moot. Note that I am only making this point because it does add polish to the overall picture if they are not visable. I seriously doubt it is written anywhere that girth buckles should be used but not be seen! :slight_smile:

Metal (?) on the outside of the bridle, can not tell for sure but looks like a small square piece of metal on the browband end/edge? but perhaps a bitless bridle can only be had this way? (I dunno, but if so, point is again moot).

Noticed grey rubber on the stirrup branches - not wrong, just have never seen that. I recently realized that I had white stirrup pads and black rubber on the stirrup branches and that it did not look so good, so I switched out the white pads for black ones and it looks much smarter. Do not know why it took me so long to catch that one.

Very clean turnout too.

Good for you for checking with your MFH beforehand.

That saddle looks like an ansur…

which the company fully supports jumping up to 2’6" in it. I did jump up to 2’6" in it but never liked my position in it over fences on a greeny.

I think your turnout looks fine. :yes:

Tantivy1 wrote:

Minor points…no doubt some would disagree, but you sound like you are interested in being correct so here goes:

The tab midway on the rein could be clipped off; unless there is a reason for it? Also, is there an elastic extension in the rein (can not tell for sure)?

*No reason for it; it came that way. I can slide it right off. And there isn’t any elastic in the reins. They are rubbed web reins, which I find very helpful when wearing 2 pairs of winter gloves!

Sheepskin pads or something a wee bit more substantial looking that “frames” the saddle might make a nicer picture; it looks like you have a quilted pad but if there is a specific reason for it, then disregard;

*That is an Ansur saddle, and they recommend using a pad no thicker than 1/4". So a thin quilted pad is what I use.

Girth buckles are showing; again, this may be unavoidable due to saddle construction or whatever and if so, the point is moot. Note that I am only making this point because it does add polish to the overall picture if they are not visable. I seriously doubt it is written anywhere that girth buckles should be used but not be seen! :slight_smile:

*Gosh! I didn’t know they shouldn’t show! I don’t know how I’d hide them…hmmmm…

Metal (?) on the outside of the bridle, can not tell for sure but looks like a small square piece of metal on the browband end/edge? but perhaps a bitless bridle can only be had this way? (I dunno, but if so, point is again moot).

*Yes, those are metal rectangular pieces holding the bridle together. It is part of the design of the Bitless Bridle. Maybe I could get some hunting scene rosettes instead! LOL!

Noticed grey rubber on the stirrup branches - not wrong, just have never seen that. I recently realized that I had white stirrup pads and black rubber on the stirrup branches and that it did not look so good, so I switched out the white pads for black ones and it looks much smarter. Do not know why it took me so long to catch that one.

*Those are the MDC stirrups, where you can turn them 45 or 90 degrees. They really help me avoid pain in my leg. I’ll see if I can find gray pads - good point.

Very clean turnout too.

*Thanks! It’s always a balance to see how much starch to use on your stocktie, versus the strength of your stocktie pin! HAHAHA!

Good for you for checking with your MFH beforehand.
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Thanks! I appreciate it very much.

Correct, by tradition, there would not be stirrup pads used, and it is checked in appointments classes. A lot of people get all the other, more difficult to find appointments together, and then forget to remove their stirrup pads before turnout judging. Whoops. :eek:

The cheese-grater pads are a new invention, so no, not “proper”, although that’s one thing that I don’t think even the most rigorous of MFHs would mention, as long as they fit the stirrups properly and don’t “clang” (someone had them and they didn’t quite fit the stirrup opening and could shift a bit, and the noise was a bit annoying).

(Even Ms. Turnout Nazi, when hunting astride, admits to using regular stirrup pads in her fillis irons. ;))

Again, NO WHERE does it say they shouldn’t appear, it is just a minor point that some BTO winners have told me is one of those little things that contribute to the oh-so-neat appearance that gives them an edge over the also rans (like moi) in a hotly contested competition.

I would NOT worry over it unduly esp. as I suspect it is due to the saddle’s construction. (You just sounded like a soul who would like to learn some of the finer points…)

Web reins are fine (I think) and I use them regularly on cubbing mornings, weekdays, and Saturdays however, on high holy days I try to remember to switch them out for laced leather as I think they are a bit more proper on those super formal meets (OM, TG, NY).

I think the grey on the stirrup bars is a different version of the black. I have both - the ones with the grey are a HS design - but if anyone wants them - come pick them up. They wobbled back and forth so much it was impossible to keep my heel down. (Barb - they may not be the same stirrups - I just recognized the grey). The HS knockoffs with the black stirrup bars are the ones I like - because of my knees. I’d not use them if I was competing in a BTO (our hunt doesn’t have that so no worries there) or an appointments class. But for regular old hunting days… they’re the only reason I can still walk after dismounting.

As I predicted - no hunting today. Boo hoo. :no: Dare I go shopping for an evening gown? Can I withstand the torture, the humiliation, the degradation?